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Title: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 20, 2013, 04:25:22 pm
Took our 2350 in today for a new shower pan .... it was cracked when we brought her home ... but those things happen .... just drained in more then one place when we took her out for the shake down trip !  :)

Has anyone designed or added a bath towel holder to the shower  ... I hate the thought of holes anywhere.

Thought about one that is retractable and putting it in the shower somehow and I see some people hanging their wet towels out on the arms of the awnings  :blush but I figure there must be a better way ... help !

Ohhhhhh life is so hard  roflol

Carol


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: gradygal on February 20, 2013, 05:08:51 pm
Carol,
We use the large size of Command Hooks--not optimal but they work. I have often thought of those tension rods (the 24" size) to hang stuff on (towels or whatever) but we haven't got to that issue yet.

After showers, we drape the towels over our chairs or the awning. Hate it but maybe there is a better way that others on the Forum can help us with.

Judi


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Paul/Marilyn on February 20, 2013, 05:34:35 pm
Carol, these are our towel racks, on the inside of the bathroom door (there are holes under the end that swivels). They're paper towel holders that fold down flat if nothing is in them. We used the same racks in our last rv and liked them. We got these at the Container Store but don't remember the brand name. If you don't have a Container Store near you you could research with them online and then find out who else sells them.

Am attaching a photo but haven't done that before so don't know if it will work.  :lol
Marilyn


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 20, 2013, 05:59:08 pm
Carol,

These are the ones we use http://www.amazon.com/Towel-Bar-Self-Adhesive-Clear-12/dp/B001I024IC

We put one near the top of the shower door and the other about midway down.  They work good but if I were doing it again I would just go to a hardware store and buy the cheap towel bars that allow you to cut the bar down to the size you need.  I would then attach the two ends to the front of the shower door with a heavy duty two-sided tape.

With these that we bought we attached with a heavy duty two sided tape (didn't use the adhesive that it came with).  We used these same ones in our 2350 so 4 years and no problems plus no holes in the walls. 

Sue


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 20, 2013, 09:40:20 pm
I have the command hooks with a metal hook on the end .... but the towels don't air out very well. We have draped or hung the towels from cabinet knobs over the cab but knew that there had to be a better way.
 
I also thought about the tension rods being as I have gone wild with those in the refrigerator and across the top of our trash can in the bathroom which keeps the trash can from moving or falling and I have studied the walls in the shower but come up empty.

Carol,
We use the large size of Command Hooks--not optimal but they work. I have often thought of those tension rods (the 24" size) to hang stuff on (towels or whatever) but we haven't got to that issue yet.

After showers, we drape the towels over our chairs or the awning. Hate it but maybe there is a better way that others on the Forum can help us with.

Judi


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 20, 2013, 09:45:30 pm
Marilyn: The picture came through perfect. I like the look of those and I have seen them before someplace but wasn't thinking about a towel holder at the time.  Are they wide enough to hold a bath towel ?

I will certainly research them .... they may just work .... just dreading holes ... but guess we can't go forever without putting a hole in the wall someplace  :'(

Carol

quote author=Paul/Marilyn link=topic=1272.msg9471#msg9471 date=1361399675]
Carol, these are our towel racks, on the inside of the bathroom door (there are holes under the end that swivels). They're paper towel holders that fold down flat if nothing is in them. We used the same racks in our last rv and liked them. We got these at the Container Store but don't remember the brand name. If you don't have a Container Store near you you could research with them online and then find out who else sells them.

Am attaching a photo but haven't done that before so don't know if it will work.  :lol
Marilyn
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Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 20, 2013, 09:47:48 pm
Sue:

We don't have a shower door ... just the cloth pleated slide.

Where did you attach them on your 2350 ?
Carol

Carol,

These are the ones we use http://www.amazon.com/Towel-Bar-Self-Adhesive-Clear-12/dp/B001I024IC

We put one near the top of the shower door and the other about midway down.  They work good but if I were doing it again I would just go to a hardware store and buy the cheap towel bars that allow you to cut the bar down to the size you need.  I would then attach the two ends to the front of the shower door with a heavy duty two-sided tape.

With these that we bought we attached with a heavy duty two sided tape (didn't use the adhesive that it came with).  We used these same ones in our 2350 so 4 years and no problems plus no holes in the walls. 

Sue


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: gypsysuzy on February 20, 2013, 09:48:42 pm
I use the super-duper size Command hooks on the shower wall below the shower head.  I usually turn on the exhaust fan after a shower to get the moisture out and then, weather permitting, leave the vent open and the towels dry pretty well.  If I am in a very humid area it is a different story.  I too have the 2350 and ruled out any type of towel rod on the back of the door because, as you know, there isn't a lot of extra room in that bathroom.  
Has anyone found an ingenious way to add a bit more storage in the 2350 bathroom?  I would be interested in hearing about it.


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: echo11 on February 21, 2013, 05:45:48 am
We have 2 command hooks on the inside of the bathroom door and spread one bath towel over both hooks.  On the outside of the door we hang an "over the door" towel bar.  That takes care of the 2nd bath towel.
Roni


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 21, 2013, 07:50:10 am
Carol,

   In the 2350 we put them on the back of the door.  They also worked very well there and did not do any damage to the wood.  What I like about it is that the wet towel hangs free and does not touch any wall.  The  only thing I do not like about them is I wish they were a little bit wider.  I fold my towel in thirds to make it look neat.  I use the fast dry towels from J C Penney and they dry in a few hours even being folded.  Here is a pic from our 2350.

Sue

(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=156.0;attach=113;image)


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 21, 2013, 08:04:04 am
When we had the 2350 here is what we did to add a little more storage in the bathroom.

Bathroom Counter Extension (Image Bath-1)

Matching corian cut to size and fitted in place.  The step down design allowed for a cleaner look and no need to try and match the sink edge pattern.  The extension provides a place for the tissue both top and bottom.

Additional Storage For Tall/Bulky Items (Images Bath -2 & Bath-3)

Located between the shower and the sink cabinet this area was perfect for tall items like curly irons and bulky hair dryers.  Image Bath-2 shows the top in place and Image Bath-3 shows the top removed for easy access.

Keep Rings Out Of The Trap (Image Bath-4)

A simple sink strainer from Home Depot can save hours of work and that priceless ring

Just One More Hook (Image Bath-5)

Another trip to Home Deport for a matching hook.  Use existing screw in side of medicine cabinet to attach hook. 

(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=97;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=99;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=101;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=103;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=105;image)

Sue


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: frecklestweety on February 21, 2013, 08:17:53 am
not wanting to put holes in the bathroom door, I used the command hooks and used a tension rod for handing the towels. One on the top and one on the bottom.  They work well. I used the command hooks large and small and they work great. heartshower


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: TomHanlon on February 21, 2013, 08:31:07 am
When we picked up our 2350, I had the factory install two towel bars in the shower on the drivers side wall. One above the other. The way I look at it, there are hundreds of screws used to make the PC, so what difference does eight more screws make. I also asked for a wooden board above the shower door top. I bought plastic over the door hooks and placed them over this board on the outside. When we took a shower, we hung the towels from the hooks. The last one to shower placed the towels on the towel bars to dry. With the shower door close you could not see the towels and they where out of the very small bathroom space.

Now that we have a 2552, the towel bars and the toilet paper holder are mounted on the back of the sliding bathroom door. The two towel bars, one over the other, are mounted to the left side of the door and the toilet paper holder is to the right side, just under half way up the door. When the door is open, everything is out of the way. When the door is closed the toilet paper is automatically placed in front of you, when you are sitting. :lol


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 21, 2013, 11:56:55 am
Sue:

Thanks for all the neat pictures. I remember looking back through older pictures and seeing the counter extension and thinking what a great idea that was ... now I know who it belonged to :)

The basket you have underneath the tp holder .. you said that was for storage (?)  where is your trash basket ?

I have the towel bar that you had over the sink cabinet door for my hand towel  and that works great.( also from your previous pictures) I also like the hook on the side of the medicine cabinet and I think we had one in our last 2350.

The towel bar behind the bathroom door looks really nice "BUT" seems like you could catch yourself on that when trying to enter the bathroom through that somewhat tight door opening (for me anyway).

I had the sink drain basket in our last 2350 ..  from viewing your pictures on the PC site  2o2 .  The stopper in our last 2350 would not stay up in the sink. This one works fine but I will put another  strainer basket in again becuase I am the queen of dropping things :).

Also found out that the walls under the bathroom sink cabinet did not go all the way up and had to have Vince pulls the drawers out under the closet area in the hall and fish around to find the things that fell behind that I stacked up to high .... oops ... learning experience.

Love the towels from JC Penny ... just bought a few to match the 2350's colors and now that we have her back with her new beautiful shower pan I can load her up and get ready for another short PC discovery trip.

Thank You for all the pictures, which were a big help in our last 2350 ..... and to Judi and Ron for the butcher block replacement basket ... that I finally get to load up today :)

Carol

When we had the 2350 here is what we did to add a little more storage in the bathroom.

Bathroom Counter Extension (Image Bath-1)

Matching corian cut to size and fitted in place.  The step down design allowed for a cleaner look and no need to try and match the sink edge pattern.  The extension provides a place for the tissue both top and bottom.

Additional Storage For Tall/Bulky Items (Images Bath -2 & Bath-3)

Located between the shower and the sink cabinet this area was perfect for tall items like curly irons and bulky hair dryers.  Image Bath-2 shows the top in place and Image Bath-3 shows the top removed for easy access.

Keep Rings Out Of The Trap (Image Bath-4)

A simple sink strainer from Home Depot can save hours of work and that priceless ring

Just One More Hook (Image Bath-5)

Another trip to Home Deport for a matching hook.  Use existing screw in side of medicine cabinet to attach hook. 

(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=97;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=99;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=101;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=103;image)
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=154.0;attach=105;image)

Sue


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 21, 2013, 12:07:19 pm
Thanks everyone for all the great tips and ideas ... I now have to "SIT DOWN"  roflol  and try to visualize everyone's options and figure where to go from here ... and Yes Tom I agree that eight more screws are not the end of the world when it comes to making things work easier .... I just have to get past the putting holes in stuff phobia  :)

Carol


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 21, 2013, 12:22:49 pm
Quote
The towel bar behind the bathroom door looks really nice "BUT" seems like you could catch yourself on that when trying to enter the bathroom through that somewhat tight door opening (for me anyway).

Carol,

Actually we never did catch ourselves on the towel rack attached to the back of the bathroom door.  I had worried about that too but it was no problem.

I had a very small (countertop) wastebasket (with cover) in the bathroom that fit next to the toilet.  Anything large went into the wastebasket underneath the sink in the kitchen.

Sue

PS - I have the same phobia about putting holes in the wall.


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: ragoodsp on February 21, 2013, 02:56:56 pm
Folks:

For what it is worth... I placed three brushed stainless hooks about three inches in from each side and the same from the top of the slider door.  There is a sold wood header that runs accorss so my screws had something to go into.  I then sprayed the vinyl wall covering with satin 3M ChipGuard (get at any good auto store) so that the wet towels will not harm anything.  You can not tell at all that the ChipGuard has been applied.  I placed the toilet paper holder about 2" behind the GFI plug on the side of the sink, I used the single pole type that allows the roll to slip down on it, used small bolts/nuts/washers so nothing will pull thru the luan.   Just other approachs to think about!


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Paul/Marilyn on February 21, 2013, 06:01:26 pm
Carol, the usable width of the hangers we use is 11-1/4". The towels we use now just barely hang on them double folded. I usually partly tri-fold them to fit smoothly. I love the Penny towels too. They do dry fast. Just bought some more for home but had never thought of them for the Cruiser. Guess I'd better go shopping again! :-D We did have a tension rod hung at the back of the shower up high to use for wet wash cloths, wet clothes and the like, however the spring broke on it and it fell down. Haven't replaced it yet but we will since we had one in our last rv and loved it.
Marilyn


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Sparky on February 25, 2013, 08:54:42 am
I purchased the command hooks but the metal small ones.(like for hanging a picture). In the middle of my towel and next to the edge put in a rivet,  hangs perfectly. Had to put up three of them the wife has to have two towels haha
David Sparks
2008 PC 2350
Houston, Texas


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: ragoodsp on February 25, 2013, 02:09:13 pm
I all so noticed several hair line cracks on the top flat section of the shower pan just as it lips under the back/side walls on my 2012 3100. They did not go over the edge and head down the pan and Kermit said let's leave and watch for a while ( would of course replace if it got worse).  I filled them with some two part marine epoxy with Kermit's blessing, sanded smooth and spary painted with matching white just on the top rim.  I found a cool product at Lowe's that they sell for sealing tub surrounds where the surround meets the tub.... the white vinyl is perhaps 1" wide and is "scored" in the middle.  Adhesive is on one side, peel the backing and I was able to very neatly adhere 1/2" on the top lip and the remaining 1/2" just overlapped down the side of the pan.  there is enough flexibility in the material that I could make the corners pefectly with out having to cut/mitre.  Have been out sevearl times, used the shower a fair amount and the cracks have yet to re-appear.  The job looks custom and I am hopeful that just enough flex has been taken out of the pan so perhaps the cracks will not re-appear or spread.  Would really prefer to not have everything wripped out if we do not have to.  Thanks


Title: Re: Shower Pan - morphed into towel bars
Post by: 2 Frazzled on February 25, 2013, 05:10:18 pm
We don't have our PC yet so haven't been able to try out the towel hanging solutions. Tom's idea of mounting everything on the sliding door of the 2552 sounds like a plan and we may go that route but there are always more things to hang than you have hooks or bars for. We have a swing-out towel bar from Ikea that we bought for the house that we are holding onto to see if it works in the PC and I saw several items with potential on the Ikea site - http://www.ikea.com/us/en/search/?query=towel+holder (If this doesn't work as a link, I just searched for "towel holder" on the Ikea site). There are several over-the-door items, a few that might go right over the shower structure (depends on depth) AND some of those evil ones that require holes in the walls. Even if we can mount the swing one, I'm not sure I want to unless it can't damage anything if it swings while driving down the road.


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Carolp495 on February 25, 2013, 07:07:56 pm
Ragoodsp:
Our crack was in the back of the shower pan on the floor and it had not been secured underneath good and it was flexing so we didn't really have a choice. I was beside myself also at the thought of our new baby being disassembled, but we used "Indian River RV in Sebastian, Florida" and they went over everything with us and spoke to Kermit before hand. They did an excellent, execellent job and I went over it with a fine tooth comb when we picked her up and it was like factory new .... I was worried for nothing and now she is good as new and ready to roll.
Carol

quote author=ragoodsp link=topic=1272.msg9507#msg9507 date=1361819353]
I all so noticed several hair line cracks on the top flat section of the shower pan just as it lips under the back/side walls on my 2012 3100. They did not go over the edge and head down the pan and Kermit said let's leave and watch for a while ( would of course replace if it got worse).  I filled them with some two part marine epoxy with Kermit's blessing, sanded smooth and spary painted with matching white just on the top rim.  I found a cool product at Lowe's that they sell for sealing tub surrounds where the surround meets the tub.... the white vinyl is perhaps 1" wide and is "scored" in the middle.  Adhesive is on one side, peel the backing and I was able to very neatly adhere 1/2" on the top lip and the remaining 1/2" just overlapped down the side of the pan.  there is enough flexibility in the material that I could make the corners pefectly with out having to cut/mitre.  Have been out sevearl times, used the shower a fair amount and the cracks have yet to re-appear.  The job looks custom and I am hopeful that just enough flex has been taken out of the pan so perhaps the cracks will not re-appear or spread.  Would really prefer to not have everything wripped out if we do not have to.  Thanks
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I all so noticed several hair line cracks on the top flat section of the shower pan just as it lips under the back/side walls on my 2012 3100. They did not go over the edge and head down the pan and Kermit said let's leave and watch for a while ( would of course replace if it got worse).  I filled them with some two part marine epoxy with Kermit's blessing, sanded smooth and spary painted with matching white just on the top rim.  I found a cool product at Lowe's that they sell for sealing tub surrounds where the surround meets the tub.... the white vinyl is perhaps 1" wide and is "scored" in the middle.  Adhesive is on one side, peel the backing and I was able to very neatly adhere 1/2" on the top lip and the remaining 1/2" just overlapped down the side of the pan.  there is enough flexibility in the material that I could make the corners pefectly with out having to cut/mitre.  Have been out sevearl times, used the shower a fair amount and the cracks have yet to re-appear.  The job looks custom and I am hopeful that just enough flex has been taken out of the pan so perhaps the cracks will not re-appear or spread.  Would really prefer to not have everything wripped out if we do not have to.  Thanks


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: gl1500 on February 25, 2013, 10:11:04 pm
Carol,
    If you would send me your e-mail address, I will send you pictures of our towel holders we put in both our 2350 and 2552.  They are inside the shower area and are out of the way. Our e-mail is bnhickey@gmail.com.  When I try to send them from our computer memory on the Forum,  our whole 10000 pictures transmit.
     Bob


Title: Re: Shower Pan
Post by: Lieutenant on March 06, 2013, 11:54:24 am
I cut a circle, adhered it to the wall with construction adhesive and then put a circular small towel holder on it after it set up and dried