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Title: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on April 27, 2013, 06:56:15 am
Woo Hoo - we are so excited! We'll drive out to Elkhart on Tuesday and will probably be sitting on their doorstep like homeless waifs when they get there in the morning on Wednesday. We're booked into the Shipshewana campground for two nights for system testing and any tweaking it may need then off we go for a casual meander back to Maryland. Our nanny cat stays home this one last time then she'll go where we go. She took her first "walk" in her harness and leash yesterday. That's going to take some time but at least we were able to pull it off with minimal blood loss and stress. We made it all the way from the front door, around the house and in the back door. Baby steps - the only way to go.

Well, soon we'll be asking all those newbie questions and, hopefully, somewhere down the line, we'll stop being newbies and will know enough to answer a few on our own.

EEEEEEEEEEEEE - so excited. (This is Holly typing - John would never squeal like a girl).
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: jampodd on April 27, 2013, 07:22:53 am
Congrats on your new purchase. We'll have "twins", mine is the same color. It drives great, although I did beef up the suspension a little and also added the option of making the twin beds into a full size sleeping area. Enjoy!! Wave as you drive by exit 71 on 80 in Ohio, I'm only a few miles north of there.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on April 27, 2013, 08:08:10 am
Thank you, we'll be sure to wave. And if you see your PC twin being tailed by a Toyota Prius sometime next Friday, that's us so be sure to wave back. The Prius could be red or blue, not sure which one is making the trip. It won't be attached. You can't tow a Prius four down and we don't want to deal with a dolly. Selling two Priuses and buying and equipping a Subaru Forrester is next on our task list.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: gradygal on April 27, 2013, 08:49:57 am
We just bought a Honda Fit to tow 4 down--and an automatic as well! George was sooooooooo negative about them (too small) until we actually got to the dealership and drove one. It actually looks like our Prius--same color but much more cargo space (or so it seems). Tomorrow, project of attaching the base plate begins.

Congrats on the new PC!!! I am sure you will love it heartshower

Judi
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: NHWanderlust on April 27, 2013, 01:37:56 pm
I wish this forum had a LIKE button, because I'd hit it about 10 times for this thread! Am I a little strange in that I don't have a PC yet, but when shopping for a new car I bought a Honda CRV mainly because it could be towed 4 down! Congrats guys and Jackie and I hope to be joining you all soon.  2o2
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: Barry-Sue on April 27, 2013, 02:54:47 pm
John and Holly,

     So excited for you.  Have a safe trip and enjoy your new adventure.  We were just at the factory on Thursday for a few little items.  All the folks there are wonderful.  ENJOY.

Barry and Sue
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: ron.dittmer on April 27, 2013, 03:24:57 pm
Back in 2007 when we picked up our rig at the factory, the only thing we had the factory modify on-the-spot was the clamp-on exhaust pipe tip.  It was exceptionally long, easily bumped into with your shin.  I was also concerned it could catch the edge of our garage door frame.

Stuart went to work quickly, removing the clamped-on tip and had it cut beautifully out back and had it back on in a jiffy.  I later painted the tip to match the rig but the paint came off quickly from the heat.  I then considered replacing the tip with a fancy chrome one but never did.

Do others here have an exceptionally long exhaust pipe sticking out?
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on April 28, 2013, 02:10:45 pm
Since we will be working from the RV, we will have several sensitive electronic devices on board to protect as well as the RV systems themselves so we bought a Progressive Industries surge protector.  It is heavy duty and expensive so they put a steel plate on it with a hole so you can secure it to the power post to make it harder for someone to walk off with. My question for all of you is - secure it with what? Can you wrap a bike chain or use a big U-bolt on the post with a padlock? Has anyone secured something like this? I'd like to use it but NOT lose it the first time we plug in. I assume all power posts are not identical so the system has to be somewhat adaptable. The manual gives no clue.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: ron.dittmer on April 28, 2013, 02:28:31 pm
Maybe the factory installs them inside upon request.   It might be easier than you think.  Common sense says to install inside just after the power transfer switch.  This way you are protected from both the pole and the generator.

Call first thing Monday morning and ask.  Maybe it will be ready when you get there.  Just pay that extra with a separate check.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on April 28, 2013, 06:07:17 pm
Ron, they have one that can be hardwired in and has plug and play replacement parts and we would have gone with it if I'd known sooner and if Phoenix could have wired it for us but the one I have is the portable model that plugs into the post. So now we have to figure out how to keep it safe. Maybe someday we'll invest in the other one and get Phoenix to wire it in.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: Sparky on April 28, 2013, 07:59:08 pm
Congrats on your new baby!!!!

Theft!!!!  I realize that we worry about our stuff at the campgrounds,, I have been reading these forums for two years and never had anyone write about getting anything stolen.  I have been to campgrounds which posted not to leave anything laying around.  My experience SO FAR haha,,,  I just see so much activity going on with other RVers, which is good,  being around especially during the day I don't see a problem.  Maybe I'm being a little naive, but 99.9% of the people I have met at the campgrounds are wonderful and love to share the RV life.   yes, I do lock up at night and if were leaving the unit for a couple of hours, yes, I lock my bicycles up if not using,,, but I try not to worry about those things.  It is a shame that we have to think about this,,,
David Sparks
2008 PC 2350
Houston
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: ron.dittmer on April 29, 2013, 09:27:54 am
The only theft I ever experienced in campsites was firewood and the campsite itself, and I can't call it theft.  More like a misunderstanding.  It comes down to marking/demonstrating the site as "Occupied".
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: Bob Mahon on April 29, 2013, 09:38:00 am
We've left power cords and hoses at the site when we went away for the day. Never have had an incident. And I've been at this for over 30 years.
However, there's always the exception and a surge protector will attract more attention than a cord or hose. A chain and lock will be a deterrent.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on April 29, 2013, 10:39:18 am
ALL security devices are just a deterrent. A determined thief (or well-prepared thief with bolt cutters) will take it. I'd just like to avoid any "impulse stealing". While shopping online for all the hook up toys I hit several reviews where people commented they had bought the same item several times after the first one walked off their campsite. Hoses seem to be popular... which are probably one of the cheaper items to steal.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: lghjr on April 29, 2013, 01:38:15 pm
Years ago when brownouts at campgrounds were more common, I saw a guy using buck/boost transformer and he had weird wires hanging out with exposed ends.   I asked about it and that was the deterrent along with the bicycle cable lock.  The wires didn't do anything but also didn't seem entirely harmless - worked too.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: TomHanlon on April 29, 2013, 01:46:27 pm
The best story I have was down at Myrtle Beach where the coolers left out overnight seem to make their way down to the beach. The kids seem to think it is party time in the evenings and they need something to drink. The security goes to the beach the first thing in the morning and anyone missing a cooler goes to them to claim it. Kids will be kids.

A friend of mine had a fifth wheel with 30 amp service and I had a class A with 50 amp service. He bought a bigger fifth wheel with 50 amp service and I down sized to the PC with 30 amp. I had always kept the 50 amp protector in the electric compartment out of the weather and sight. I asked him to swap with me and he was more than happy to. After his first trip he showed me a 50 amp protector that was well weathered looking, all cracked and split at the seems. Our guess is that someone ran over their protector and saw his nice shiny one. A quick swap must have been in order. So I can understand Holly's concern about her new protector.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: keelhauler on April 29, 2013, 03:41:46 pm
For information.
Phoenix installed the Progressive Industries surge protector and remote monitor, which I supplied to them after I ordered my new 2552. The monitor was installed next to the door switch so I could see what the voltage was and any error codes as soon as I looked in the door.
It really saved my system this year. 2 lost refrigerators and 1 lost microwave from other campers when we were in Mexico.
My EMS protected me.  One time a eurapean camper caused 220v to go into the system when his transformer shorted out. It blew the surge fuse on my EMS but everything else still worked and protected the system until I could replace it.

Don't go to Mexico without some kind of electrical protection.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: Barry-Sue on April 29, 2013, 05:09:25 pm
Most campgrounds that we have been to have been safe and theft free but at the beach in FL ,during spring break, it is vital to lock everything up.  Our neighbors were missing their lawn chairs and BBQ one morning.  We were walking and found them next to the campground that was also next to a restaurant.  Apparently someone got hungry, stole some steaks from the restaurant, needed a BBQ and chairs and made themselves a nice meal.

Another friend of ours lost a bike but found it a week later after the spring breakers left. 

The security guards and police are always warning us at the beach during spring break to lock everything up at night.

Sue
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: lmichael on April 30, 2013, 07:06:22 pm
Camping World sells a lock that clamps around the outlet plug of the surge protector.  I thought about getting one because I had thoughts of someone stealing mine.  Then I realized the thief could simply cut the power cord or unplug the surge protector and take everything.  I decided to just relax and enjoy the campsite/area.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: ron.dittmer on April 30, 2013, 10:17:59 pm
Is it hard to install the "Rig Internal" surge protector ourselves?  This seems the ultimate solution.....or are there concerns with this type.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: TomHanlon on May 01, 2013, 06:01:00 am
Camping World sells a lock that clamps around the outlet plug of the surge protector.  I thought about getting one because I had thoughts of someone stealing mine.  Then I realized the thief could simply cut the power cord or unplug the surge protector and take everything.  I decided to just relax and enjoy the campsite/area.

Why cut a good cord when all you have to do is unplug both ends?  :'( :beg >( roflol :lol
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 01, 2013, 06:03:56 am
That would depend on your electrical skills. You have to cut the main power cable and splice it in. NOT something I would ever do but I know some of you super fix it guys wouldn't think twice about it.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: TomHanlon on May 01, 2013, 06:07:32 am
The "BIG DAY" is finaly here for Holly and John. Have fun and enjoy your new PC.
 y-- y-- y-- and for you John  :)(: :)(: :)(:


Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 01, 2013, 06:15:13 am
Thank you Tom for the we'll wishes and all the help. We are dawdling this morning. Kermit has an early appointment so we are waiting until he gets in at 10:30 or so. That way we get to meet and greet with both Kermit and Earl.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 01, 2013, 06:22:12 am
Keelhauler, you have the Progressive Industries internal hard wired electrical management system in you PC and took a power hit. Was it plug and play replacement like they advertise? What did it take for you to fix it?
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: dickreid1 on May 01, 2013, 08:54:30 am
John,

Let me chime in on this one. 

I have had both the hard wired and external Progressive Industries units. They are truly "plug and play".
Install Note: the display should be visible from outside so you can want to watch it cycle through the start-up tests. 

Last summer my unit failed.  I stopped at the Progressive Ind. facility where they tested, replaced and demonstrated the new unit.  I was on my way in a half-hour.  They are almost as good to deal with as our folks at PC.

Dick
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: ron.dittmer on May 01, 2013, 10:47:25 am
I found THIS INTERNAL POWER SURGE PROTECTION UNIT (http://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems_hw30c.htm) with a remote display.

Is there any concern of a power surge from the Onan4000 generator?  If so, then the protection should be installed by the power transfer switch instead of by the power plug.

EMS-HW30C - Internal With Remote Display
(http://www.progressiveindustries.net/product_images/EMS_HW30C.jpg)

EMS-LCHW30 - Internal With Display On The Unit
(http://www.progressiveindustries.net/product_images/EMS_LCHW30.jpg)

EMS-PT30C - Portable With Display
(http://www.progressiveindustries.net/product_images/EMS_PT30C.jpg)

SSP-30 With NO Display (Has LED Panel)
(http://www.progressiveindustries.net/product_images/SSP30.jpg)
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: aimee on May 01, 2013, 04:45:00 pm
I have photos too...photos of the happy couple picking up their new baby!  It's BEAUTIFUL!  I may post later if they don't mind.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 01, 2013, 07:20:40 pm
Aaarg, Aimee, may we see them before they are published? I hate pictures but Earl was so nice I couldn't say no. John and I are sitting here in Shipshewana North Campground enjoying a beautiful evening with a beautiful new Phoenix Cruiser and toasting her with a bottle of Jack Daniels. Life is good

Well, NOT the whole bottle, just a toast. Age tends to bring lessons on moderation.

John is sitting here with his feet up, listening to some awesome bird song, watching the sunset, sipping JD and answering emails to the boss... which means we get paid for this! John said he is not sure he will be able to continue to work under these intolerable conditions.
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 01, 2013, 07:45:00 pm
About the on-board hard-wired surge suppressor/power management system -Kermit said yes, they can install them after the build BUT it is much more difficult and they would have to get up under the coach to wire it in.
 
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: aimee on May 01, 2013, 10:38:19 pm
Picking Up their 2552!
Title: Re: Picking up our 2552 on Wednesday
Post by: keelhauler on May 02, 2013, 08:25:23 am
To answer some of the questions and comments on Progressive's Hard wired Unit.
Progressive is very easy to work with. When my surge fuse blew they sent a new small circuit board which took a couple of minutes to install with easy instructions. It looked like a small fuse was blown on the board and if it happened again I might just try to replace the fuse first.

I think that with the 2551 & 2552, the only units I'm familiar with, that it would be very easy to wire it in yourself, it goes under the long bed and you just need room to mount it ahead of the converter. I would get the remote display and it is easy to get the phone wire over to near the battery compartment.

Mine is installed downstream of the generator and it works fine.