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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 2910 Ownersa on: September 03, 2015, 07:40:24 pm
I agree with Jim and Beth about the 2910 with double beds but not so much for access space.  More important is for weight reduction off the driver side duals which are maxed out with the slide room on them.

We do not have any particular problem getting in and out of the short queen bed... or with the space available around it.  We also have no problem with kitchen storage.  I have been in th 2910T and felt clustrophobic with the dinette room filling space that I am accustomed to when on the road.
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: MPG - E450 - four summers on: August 29, 2015, 02:00:33 pm
Ok everybody, time to cover what was not covered related to driving for mpg.

First, turning off your injectors.  Injectors squirt fuel as needed. One for each cylinder.  When, at speed, you take your foot the accelerator, fuel is no longer needed, the injectors tun off. The engine continues to turn which gradually slows the mph.  This is the way to get "free mpg" as you approach a stop or go downhill.

Second. There is an injector technique that can be used in long rolling hills which I think of as "driving above the average mpg (Scangauge)".  I find that rather than taking my foot off the gas to turn off the injectors, I can accelerate while driving downhill and still drive considerably "above the average mpg". 

For example, the Scangauge shows the average mpg so far is 9.0 mpg.  Rather than taking my foot off the gas to get "free mpg" on the next hill, I give just a little gas to hold at maybe 20 mpg and also accelerate to get a run at the next hill.

The result is that the speed build-up carries me farther up the next hill before a downshift occurs and the average mpg slowly but steadily gets better.  This is more effective than just taking your foot off the gas on big hiils... and more interesting. Eventually, I catch up to the average mpg and cannot improve but only maintain the highest mpg.  From this I determine the true mpg of the engine under those conditions with that specific gas.

Finally, I note that the mpg can be as much as 1 mpg higher or lower than normal with some gas.  Ethanol free gas seems to do better a little more frequently.
33  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Weighing all four corners of your PC on: August 13, 2015, 05:46:21 pm
Safe CCC weight distribution judged by weighing only the front and rear axles may create a false sense of proper tire loading. Getting the weight of the four corners of your coach is the only secure measurement for safe loading on tires.  Finding where to get this type of weighing is a problem if you are not at a rally.

At the past FMCA International Rally in Madison WI an exhibitor, Recreational Vehicle Safety & Education Foundation (RVSEF), provided four corner weighing.  This is the organization that revealed the early RV industry overweight building practices.  Now RVs have more sensibly distributed dry weight and must now be equipped with a safety and weight label about cargo carrying capacity., tel: 321-453-7673, Walter Cannon, Executive Dir. email:

This is a resource if you are wondering about tire loading on your coach... particularly if you have the water tank in a bed slide-out.

The person I talked with was Shane Hess, email:  He indicated they had portable corner weighing scales at two locations, Florida and I think Arizona. 
34  Main Forum / General Discussion / MPG - E450 - four summers on: August 13, 2015, 04:11:49 pm
For the record.

Total miles including flatland, hills, mountains, A/C no A/C, good gas, bad gas, idle time...
divided by...
total gallons used corrected for generator use by 0.5 gallon/hour.

2012 - 9,700 miles - 9.2 mpg
2013 - 12,500 miles - 9.6 mpg
2014 - 10.200 miles - 9.2 mpg
2015 - 9,400 miles - 9.2 mpg

We do not tow.
We cruise 55-58 mph on secondary highways
and 60-64 mph on interstate quality highways.
We avoid high rpm (>3000) cruise control downshifts.
We use long coasts with fuel injectors off whenever possible.
35  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Issues with 2910D CCC and Microwave/convesction oven? on: August 12, 2015, 09:54:56 am
I am probably the guy talking about CCC and the 2910.  When I got corner weigths it was apparent that the driver side duals are maxed out.  The only solution to date is twin beds like Gradygal's custom coach where the weight of the bed slide-out is eliminated.
36  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Miles per year on your Phoenix? on: August 12, 2015, 09:45:38 am

We just returned from our fourth summer tour with around 48,000 miles on the odometer. Drove 10,000 miles on trips 1 and 4. Trips 3 and 4 were to West coast at about 14,000 each. 

Previously we drove 98,000 miles in 5 tours in our Winnebago View Sprinter which explains why we have seen so much of the USA and Canada before we bought the PC.

37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Leak in bath area on: August 04, 2015, 12:46:07 pm

I find that water pressure can vary wildly a various campgrounds... up to 90-100 psi!

If there is any weakness in your system this will reveal it.

If the campsite water connection does not have a pressure reducer, it is a good idea to check the pressure. If it is 50-60 psi or more, it is advisable to put on your own pressure reducer.


38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: FMCA Rally in Madison WI on: July 30, 2015, 05:18:09 pm
Aha!  We saw two Phoenix Cruisers today parked and talked to someone  at the PC display who is driving a 3100. That makes four of us.
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / FMCA Rally in Madison WI on: July 29, 2015, 09:45:40 pm
The exhibit area of new coaches opened today at 5 pm.  Earl was showing three models: 2910T, 2552 and 2351.  People were swarming them to take a look.  I note that they have 6volt house batteries now for an upgrade in power capacity.

We have not seen other Phoenix Crusiers at the rally. Is anyone else attending?  We are in lot J.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Single A/C vs. Dual A/C on: July 16, 2015, 09:56:39 am
This is our fourth summer tour in our two a/c, 50 amp 2910D.  We can handle hot weather pretty good now. The front windshield is the major source for heat followed by the all metal coach door.  

The first thing we have done is to tint the the side and front cab windows and coach door window.

Routinely, we use an outside window "bra" for average conditions. The awning helps also to keep sun off of the coach door.

In severe heat conditions we add a aluminized "space blanket" over the windshield which is held in place with magnets.  Same on the inside of the entry door.

We also have aluminized insulation cut to fit the rear window, coach door window and cab windows. These store nicely under the bed.  The $2 space blankets store sandwich bags.

You evidently are aware of the weight situation with the water tank in the rear bed slideout, but I do not see how a single air conditioner could be satisfactory in hot, sunny conditions.
41  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: HWH levelers not retracting on: June 17, 2015, 07:48:22 pm

The sequence of what levelers are raised is of no consequence.  Raising a leveler is for best access to clean the seal and piston.

However, understand that the emergency brakes are on the rear wheels. If you fully extend both rear levelers it would be advisable to securely block the front wheels so the coach cannot roll forward or backward.  Ditto if you need to raise the rear for leveling.  In this case, driving your duals up on blocks helps keep more weight on the tires .

42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Web site link needed on: June 16, 2015, 04:09:42 pm
 ThankYou"From the PC home page there is a link to the Forum home page. From the Forum home page there is no similar link back to the PC home page.

It is annoying to have to do a search to get back.  What am I doing wrong?
43  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / HWH levelers not retracting on: June 11, 2015, 05:48:55 pm
In the last few campsites one of the levelers refused to retract.  To get it up I had to drive forward enough so it could swing up. (Yes, the levelers are designed for that).  The shiney piston part simply would not retract all the way in spite of pushing or banging on the base. If there was clearance it would extend properly for leveling but not fully retract when done. 

A search came up with the suggestion to fully extend the jack, spray WD40 generously inside the metal sleeve at the top of the piston and ,using a twig or stick, swab a paper towel around inside the metal sleeve. I did that repeatedly until the black gunk up in there was gone. That was followed by spraying WD40 all over the piston and wiping it clean of any residue. 

The jack retracted normally after this treatment and has been behaving properly since. 
44  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Simple rattle fix on: June 03, 2015, 02:05:41 pm
For years now we have been living with a particular rattle when driving.  Mainly driver's side. MCD shades were suspect hitting each other or the window frame. Velcro loop stuff made a difference but no solution.  Padding the glass tray in the microwave made a difference but no solution. Padding pots and pans... nada.  Locking the oven fan outside vents... nope.  Maybe something inside the MCD shade box?  Maybe the slide topper has something loose?  We lived with it and dreaded rough roads.

On a call-back from Kermit about pealing vinyl on drivers seat, Marge mentioned the rattle. He suggested push the slide-out button briefly. Just enough to put pressure on the mechanism but not move the slide. Eureka!  That is the solution!  What a super simple fix.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910D vs. 2010T on: May 13, 2015, 03:53:59 pm
Your height is a problem for both the rear slideout bed and for headroom.  Other tall owners describe a bedtime configuration of sliding the "short queen" mattress down 12 to 14 inches for the feet and filling in the head space with something. This results in a "crawl-over" situation. 

Possibly a twin bed alternatitive could be reasonably close to providing enough length... if you can deal with the air conditioner(s) and light fixtures, etc. in the ceiling.
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