Show Posts
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 9
1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 and PC 2351 Owners ... purchase dilemma on: November 26, 2015, 05:43:09 pm
The questions you ask are the very reasons why we own a 2350, the just a foot smaller model to the 2351.  Candidly, I can't personally imagine trying to hassle 31 feet of motor home in not many but most of the places we go, including national parks, BLM, NF, etc.  And pulling over to view something would be just a bridge too far for me in anything that long.  Others may share a very different opinion and experience, but we own a smallish Class C because of all those considerations.  AND, I certainly can't imagine doing that kind of exploring without a towed vehicle with a 31 footer.  Just our experience and opinion.

2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Would like to check out your Phoenix Cruiser 2350 near Los Angeles on: November 26, 2015, 08:42:29 am
I can't help you because I live half a country away from you!  But, I can tell you this:   we moved from a Roadtrek 210P to a PC 2350 and love the extra room. 

We feel like we are in a suite compared to a small room.   We do miss our RT for maneuverability and parking.  We have to tow to have a run around vehicle.  We find the 2350 great for the two of us for extended trips, but miss the Roadtrek for day trips.  If you are going to full time, some do it in Roadtreks but the 2350 would be perfect for someone that doesn't mind a smaller rig and all its benefits.   Personally, if we didn't need all the junk for boondocking and extended stays we would take a close look at the 2100 PC.  It looks like a Roadtrek on steroids. 

3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: NewJeep Cherokee on: November 23, 2015, 10:37:36 am
No problems with our 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk.   We have now towed it about 6000 miles or so and it has never had a problem.  Never been back to the dealer, but there are a couple of minor recalls that parts are now available to fix at the dealers and I will take it in between Thanksgiving and Christmas.   We bought this for my wife to drive and to tow behind our PC2350.   I have nothing to report but good results with this Jeep, which is the sixth one we have owned (Cherokees and Grand Cherokees over the years) and in many ways, this one is the best yet. 

4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dip stick on: November 13, 2015, 01:30:00 pm
Dave, I don't know what you are missing but I do know that I have trouble reading them on all my vehicles.  Not surmountable trouble, but you would think there would be a better way given the technology that exists today.  Push a button:  tire pressure in each tire.   Dip stick:  not much change from my 1940 Dodge.  Easier on my Dodge because oil got dirty very quickly and was then easy to read.  Now, it is clear as a bell after many thousand miles.   Maybe that adds to the difficulty. 

Maybe there is and we just don't know about it?

5  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Need The Strength Of "THE HULK" To Work Your Shower Head? If So, Read This. on: November 08, 2015, 08:31:00 am
Ron, we have been gone for a week in our 2350 enjoying the fall weather and I am just now reading these posts.  You wrote:

I now have time for it for I got laid off last Tuesday from Motorola Solutions after 38 years there.  It really was perfect timing.  I got a nice severance package which I considered to be a very nice parting gift.  I am a free man now like most of you are so these little projects are play time for me.

Let me just add my congratulations to those of others posted on this forum.  Although I must admit I occasionally miss the action of my former life, I feel blessed to no longer be a participant in the daily work scene.  Like me, you seem to have a lot of interests and things to bring joy to your life.  I am familiar with your church and the leadership it has brought to church life in reorienting much of America.  What a great opportunity to stay involved and active!   Somewhere along the way, we tend to let life become our work instead of a resource to increase the joy of our life.  It is a much different corporate world than you entered almost forty years ago.  I am so glad to be able to get up every day and do pretty well what I want to do without the burden of having to constantly respond to the demands of the workplace. 

For some, this transition is easy and for some it is not so easy.  I have learned enough about you from your postings to know it will be a blessing to your life to have more of the most fleeting commodity on this planet:  time. 

Congratulations and enjoy the journey!   Lots of places out there in this country and time to experience, not just see them, is a gift. 

6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Winterizing on: November 02, 2015, 08:40:45 am
Excellent!  Thank you so much and thanks to Tom to helping on this list.

I might add as a corollary to 10 (a) that I tend to forget the kitchen dish sprayer hose and head.  I don't know why, but I always seem to have a woops moment about the third time I check everything after completing the entire winterizing process. 

Again, thanks.  I will print out this list and keep it in the manuals in the rig. 

7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance on: November 01, 2015, 09:46:48 am
 A lot of good points and viewpoints are being presented in this very interesting thread.  Several things come to my mind including that each of us has different skill and comfort levels to make repairs ourselves.  We each use our rigs differently and some are older than others.  So, each of our viewpoints is important.

I would make my "2 AM sweaty palms" comment:  if it is something that is going to worry you and take away your comfort and enjoyment of your RV, don't do it!  

Personally, I am totally comfortable without a warranty but I think there are a lot of us that should have one to fully enjoy worry free travel.  I enjoy the maintenance aspect of our rig and repairs are simply a part of the hobby for me.  I enjoy working on the thing!   I have been exceedingly fortunate in that I have taken only one rig in all my years of rving to a dealer for a repair.  I will not touch the chassis but that is another matter.  I do take the Ford part to a local shop I have been doing business with for thirty years and they have two bays for RVs under 30 feet to do chassis work.  I took the PC to a local independent rv repair shop  to have a towing/braking system installed because I don't know come here from sic 'em about doing that and didn't want to risk my life or someones life on my Billy Bob installation.

A service warranty is simply an insurance policy, no more and no less.  You have to read the fine and very fine print and think about it before you purchase.  Folks often get surprised when they find out a need is not covered under the extended warranty.  

The risk of not having a warranty is quantifiable.  How many years have you had your rig, how many more do you expect to keep it, how well do you maintain it and how many miles do you drive it?  How much out of pocket risk can you assume?  If for example, you had a $800 a year premium and hadn't used the warranty in five years you could have saved four grand.   Personally, I have a $1000 deductible on all my insurance policies.  In essence I self insure for the first grand.   To me, insurance is to cover the "biggies" I can't afford or control and the liability that is always present.  Having spent fifty years in finance, I finally figured out my Finance 101 professor was mostly right:  fear and greed where money is concerned are the only two emotions.  My greed just keeps me from turning over those extra bucks to an insurance company.   My fear always causes me to wonder if I am making a mistake by not doing that, so we are back to the first question:  what is your PERSONAL comfort level?  

Just my thoughts since like a lot of us I got us an hour earlier today LOL

8  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Traveling without our PC on: October 29, 2015, 09:05:27 am
Beautiful Ohio!  

We are heading out next week for Mount Magazine State Park over in Arkansas.  We have been there several times and usually make it our final PC trip of the year before blowing out the lines, filling them full of pink and taking all the freezable stuff out of the rig.  The foliage is usually very attractive there and we often drive the "Pig Trail" which is a state highway from that area all the way up to almost the Missouri line.  Lots of great maples and sweetgum along the way.  Only in Arkansas would they officially call it "Pig Trail".   By the way, Arkansas really solicits and supports tourism and it is a beautiful state, mostly undiscovered by people outside this area of the country.   Their state parks are absolutely second to none and the topography in much of the state is reminiscent of much of Vermont and New Hampshire.

We have had motor homes for a lot of decades now, but we still enjoy "fly and drives" and do them also.  We love both ways of travel.  Those bags and suitcases got a lot more compatible with my temper when we discovered these and we use them in our PC as well.  We have several each and find they really do organize stuff.   We were in Vermont this month for a fly and drive of almost two weeks and they really kept stuff organized.

These eBags come in all sizes and colors.  I find the medium and large perfect and it is amazing how much stuff will go in the large one and how well and wrinkle free things stay.  

9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 27, 2015, 09:11:57 am
Ron and Toni, looks like you enjoy about the same type of camping that we enjoy....and in some of the same places.  We bought our 2350 with slide when it was eleven months old and bought it from a guy less than five miles down the road.   We had planned on ordering exactly the same unit, but I doubt if we would have tricked it out as well as the first owner choose to do and we enjoy his choices.  

Now, if doing it all over and ordering new as we originally intended we would get the 2351 like you choose and we would pay the upcharge for the 450 chassis.  We also, like you, pull a Trailhawk.  I think you will be very pleased with your PC for the type of camping you enjoy.  That black tank on ours is much larger than the black tanks on similar models from other brands.  It allows us long term stays in National Forests for camping and hiking.   You will find the 450 a real benefit IMO.  And you will certainly be pleased with the quality of the build.  Think about adding twin sixes on the batteries and solar for your boondocking.   I did the solar add on myself and two hundred watts is ample for long term in the boonies if you get reasonable amounts of sun.  

Of course, we may enjoy the same places and you don't boondock and stay in town.  Either way, those states are great choices.  Think about New Mexico as a possible addition to the list.  It is our First Choice .....Northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado are not as crowded as the better known spots. 

10  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Need The Strength Of "THE HULK" To Work Your Shower Head? If So, Read This. on: October 26, 2015, 09:41:28 am
Ron wrote:  I have the white plastic shower hose off as well, going to home improvement centers with it to find a more flexible one.  I am thinking about one of those plastic braided type like we once had at home for the kitchen sprayer.

That is exactly what we use, including the spray head.  A simple, very flexible kitchen sink sprayer.   When you release the trigger, it is OFF and you don't drip water.  That is important when boondocking and you may be getting water from a distance and trying to get as many days possible out of your tanks.   A whole bunch of Class B folks (the land from whence we came) have used these for years because they shut completely off when you release the trigger and Class Bs generally have small tanks.   Disadvantage is you cannot adjust the shower spray and it comes out forcefully, which is fine for a lot of us. 

11  Main Forum / Polls / Re: unsatisfied with performance of Air Conditioner? on: October 25, 2015, 06:46:21 pm
I know what hot is and that is for sure.  We live in an area that can get very hot and we owned Class B motor homes for years and years.  They have lots of windows and very little insulation since they are a van conversion.  Our Roadtrek was 21 feet long and had an 11,000 BTU heat pump unit and it was virtually ineffective in the hot summer.  The nature of the beast is hot HOT and HOTTER.   Here is something that Class B folks swear by:

You cut out pieces of this stuff just slightly larger (1/4 inch or so) than the dimensions of a window and just pressure fit it into the window frame on really hot days, then you pull all the curtains or close all the blinds as the case may be.  For the front part of the cab, the side windows and windshield is the culprit.  You make the cutouts a little larger on the side windows on two sides and bottom and a little smaller at the top leaving a gap at the top and you lower the side windows slightly (1/4 or 1/2 inch) thus providing an escape hatch for the hot air.  The windshield can most effectively be dealt with from the outside by using one of the commercially available covers available. 

Instead of shuttering the vent fans, try cracking them slightly.  That will allow hot air to exit since hot air rises, cool air settles. 

One of the reason we got away from our beloved Roadtrek was simply the heat making summer camping in it a sometimes impossible situation on bright sunny days.

This Reflectix stuff is cheap and can be purchased in various size width rolls at Lowes or HD.   You might give it a try and see how you like it. 

By the way, all those cutouts of Reflectix we stored by simply putting them under the mattress.  The stuff is only about  1/4 inch thick.   You can also use it to line other areas that have heat problems, like the back of cabinets that get hot from the outside walls. 

Here is some other options for the front:,B00E5HGBSY

12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why we all love our Phoenix Cruisers on: October 18, 2015, 08:25:08 am
Denny and Barb wrote:

We chose the Ford, (where service is almost everywhere, as we travel in remote area's), and PC for their quality. Does this make sense to anyone? It does to us...  Thanks for reading.


We have, for example, an authorized service center for MB Sprinters that services motor homes about thirty minutes from our home.  Heading west from Oklahoma City, the next nearest warranty repair is in Albuquerque. That is 575 miles.  Heading north from Albuquerque, next stop for warranty is Denver....almost 500 miles.   We go to remote places and in the West it is a far distance between service centers. No service center (last time I looked) in the entire state of Kansas, for example.

I am sure this will change over time as MB is in the process of expanding dealer networks.   In the meantime, there is somebody in every county seat and most smaller towns in America that can work on a Ford or Chevy.   We would have loved to have had a MB chassis, but that service was a concern.   Incidentally, I called the local MB folks (fifteen minutes away) and they declined to service Sprinter motor homes.  I called a few more around here and they all declined.  Cars only.   Now, if we lived and mostly traveled on either coast, I would probably have one because service centers are acceptable distances from most locations.   

So, my wife and I concur with your concerns.   This is certainly no knock on Sprinters because I think they are cool as can be and I would love to own one.   Except.......

13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Why we all love our Phoenix Cruisers on: October 16, 2015, 07:28:10 pm
I went to the Oklahoma City Fall RV Show yesterday.  This is trailer country, big fifth wheels being the main event at the show.  Still, quite a few Class Cs were there from several manufacturers.  Some of the Cs were so poorly built I suspect a thousand mile trip would require a full set of skills and tools for repair.   I mean CHEAPLY BUILT, obviously thrown together.  I won't name manufacturers, but they included some of the leading brands.  "B+" Cs were in supply and I checked them out carefully.  The floor plans and layout on a few were pretty interesting and attractive.  Virtually all Class Cs are on a Ford or MB chassis, with a few Chevrolets every once in a while.   So I am not commenting on the platforms, just the coaches themselves.  

The problem:  the construction.  I looked behind cabinets, pulled out drawers and inspected reinforcement of floors on the coaches and in the cabinets.  I looked at trim, quality of components and I got down on the floor and looked those babies over carefully.  On one small C I opened an outside door and admired the storage area, carefully closed the door and it fell half off!  I just walked away shaking my head.

I have done all the coach repairs and additions on my motor homes for thirty years and only took one to a dealer one time.  I do not service or repair the chassis stuff myself unless it is pretty minor.  That being said, I have more than a passing knowledge of construction and possible sources of problems on Class C and Class B rigs.  

Compared to our PCs, no other brand I saw passed muster.  There were no Carriage House or Born Free products but they are like Phoenix....mostly available straight from the manufacturer.  

I researched Class Cs for two years on line and in person before we decided on our PC.  Boy, did we make the right decision.  

Thanks, Phoenix Cruiser!!   Thanks for the design and the general quality of your products.  

14  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Converting From Two 12V Batteries To Two 6V Batteries on: September 21, 2015, 11:10:21 am
That would be a great idea, Ron.   I envy you with the location you have for your panel.  Ours (2013 2350) is located behind the driver's seat and is a pain to lean down and read if the light is not just right.  Probably, the hood has changed over the years not allowing such an arrangement.  We stack and store a lot of stuff between the driver's seat and the couch and that makes it sometimes a little more difficult to monitor the monitors.  Not a big deal, but still having the info out in the middle of the coach is much better IMO. 

By the way, you might consider also a wireless thermometer in your refrig with the monitor on that panel.  We really love to be cognizant of that temp at all times without opening the door.

15  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Converting From Two 12V Batteries To Two 6V Batteries on: September 17, 2015, 05:57:18 pm
Here is the chart I follow.  It has been around a long time and I find it useful:

Voltage and State of Charge percentages
12.6+ volts
12.5 volts
12.42 volts
12.32 volts
12.20 volts
12.06 volts
11.9 volts
11.75 volts
11.58 volts
11.31 volts
10.5 volts

This comes from this website and I think that website has some really good information.  It has been around for a long time, but so have volts and amps  Wink

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 9