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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Phoenix Cruiser You Tube on: July 22, 2016, 08:59:51 am
This is a good youtube to watch for any potential buyers. 

It is also a good view for those of us that have PCs.   We researched Cs for almost two years before we bought our PC.  We were heading to the factory to order a 2350 when we found a used one eleven months old.......less than five miles from our home!  Having owned two other Cs and 3 Bs over the years and having converted a new Chevy van into a travel camper back when we had less time, money and sense, I have a great respect for design and construction methodology. 

This video will really confirm all of us on our decisions to own a Phoenix Cruiser.   Let's face the fact that there is a lot of poorly designed and constructed trouble out there in the rv showrooms.  First time buyers will find the truth in that sign that my dad had in his store a half century ago.  "We know others sell for less.  They know what there stuff is worth."

2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Nitrogen on: July 19, 2016, 09:02:24 am
My 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee came with nitrogen in the tires and the green valve caps indicate nitrogen.   For five years I added regular air to them and never had a problem.  Regular compressed air has nitrogen and oxygen....and water vapor.  The water is the culprit to deteriorate rubber over time.  Also, compressed air will tend to migrate at high temps out of the tire...but unless you are racing at 200mph it isn't enough to matter.   To me, nitrogen is just another of those "sell you somethings"  that sounds sexy and instills fear that after over a century of using pneumatic  tires full of air we will all have disaster if we don't use it.   Sort of like the $400 fabric protector spray or leather conditioner the dealers all like to pedal. 

Give me a break!   rolling on the floor

The most important thing, in my opinion, is to use a compressed air source that is properly maintained and therefore the water is purged from the air tank frequently.  By the way, I bought one of these on sale at Lowes for a hundred bucks and it puts up 150 psi which is great for the PC tires.  Of course, it is to big to be practical to carry in the PC, but I use it for my shop as well as airing our PC and vehicle tires.   HD and Lowes both put them on sale for $100 occasionally.   They are very easy tanks to drain the water and keep clean.   Additionally, they are relatively light weight and well made.


3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: SO JUST HOW FAST DO YOU GO? on: July 18, 2016, 07:58:44 am
I haven't enjoyed RVs for all these years by flying down the road at the speed limit.  I normally drive 60-65 and look the country over as we travel.  If I am just burning up interstate that I have driven many times, I may get close to 70.  What I really enjoy is the less traveled highways and fifty miles an hour. 

There is a lot to see in America.  Even at 60 seconds per mile (60MPH) you still miss a lot, don't you? 

4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Questions on: July 16, 2016, 04:42:09 pm
We bought our rig a year old so we didn't have the option to choose options.  I would not, however, pay for the price of jacks.  We spend most of our time in the National Forest campgrounds and they can be very uneven sites.  I use block levelers like here: 

I have used these things for years and discovered them in our Class B days back thirty years ago.  I always carry two sets in the PC and four more sets in the towed Jeep.  I have never used all of them, but I have them if I need them.  Leveling four or five inches on the front or back or side to side is not problem with these.  That is less than $200 bucks.  After a while, got so adept at using them that I read the side and rear levels I stick on every RV we own and I can tell darn close how many and under which wheel.  Now, this is easier on most Class Bs since you only have two rear wheels, not four.  This won't work for everyone and I think it would be really neat to have those nice power levelers, but I would not order them personally if I was ordering a new rig because they are so expensive, another maintenance item and add more weight.   i would rather spend that dough on stuff we see like wooden floors, upholstery,

By the way, no question in my mind:  if we ordered a new PC2350 it would be on a 450 chassis.  I have had both and prefer the 450 not only for CCC but also for gearing. 

Everyone has their own thoughts and opinions on what is important to their particular style of travel and camping.   We tend to think of each trip as an adventure and just don't mind roughing it a bit.  Like leveling.   

5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Music while traveling options on: July 05, 2016, 07:56:41 am
Barb, I think you will find that using the inverter going down the road will be just fine.  Your engine will be charging (or maintaining) your coach batteries and therefore you will not run them down one bit.  Turn on the inverter (assuming it is similar to ours), note the indicated DC voltage input, then start the engine and watch the voltage jump a bit, thus indicating a charge rate.  Some motorhomes don't have generators and the owners use the engine to recharge their coach batteries as a matter of normal operation.

6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning doesn't completely roll up on: July 03, 2016, 04:04:47 pm
I have developed the same problem on the forward arm, just like in the picture above but not as severe.  Mine gaps about 1/2 inch at the very top.  The rear arm retracts perfectly.  My drive home from where we were camped when I noticed it was over 500 miles and it didn't move at all or cause further problems.  

I will look forward to seeing the comments and suggestions.  We are taking off again in a few weeks and I need to address this along with a couple of other maintenance items on my check list.   

7  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Level Phoenix Cruiser on: June 30, 2016, 07:30:11 pm
You know, I have just never obsessed about being absolutely, perfectly level.  Yes, I have levels stuck on the outside for both directions and, yes, I level until comfortable and within a degree or two.  I also carry a little 12" carpenter's level. I prefer to be off a little, leaning side to side at a slight angle to assure the shower draining properly.  Now, I don't mean four or five degrees, but I have never found harm in a degree or two.  I have witnessed folks working for an hour to get a rig level. 

Twenty years ago the refrigs were much more sensitive to leveling than they are now.  In fact, it was common thirty years ago or so that if a fridge had operated much off plumb it could cause the gas to bubble up and not operate much at all.  Same thing back then if the refrig was not operated for long periods of time.  The solution was "burping" the refrigerator.  Take it out, turn it upside down and shake it a bit.  Leave it inverted over night and reinstall.  Those, my friends, were the "good ole days".  Like nylon tires and butterfly valves in the carbs, I think I will take "modern" most of the time.  By the way, refrigs were much simpler back then and smaller, too.  Still, burping was a bear.

8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 24, 2016, 07:36:29 am
I suspect PC doesn't want to get involved with modification of the "Ford stuff".  The second they take off door panels, pull and change dog houses, etc. they have modified Ford design and may have altered Ford warranty.   When they start changing the heat reflection/absorption design of the Ford I suspect their liability would increase commensurately.

9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wrangler Unlimited as a toad? on: June 19, 2016, 09:12:02 pm
You see some crazy things in campgrounds.  I have seen trailers that were way to heavy being towed by midsized SUVs.  Sprinter based motorhomes pulling some really heavy toads beyond even their hitch rating clearly marked on the things.

Some folks pay little or no attention to such things as towing capacity, brakes, hitch gear.  One guy told me once his trailer was about to run over his SUV going down hills.  I asked him what kind of brake controller he was using and he had not a clue as to what a brake controller was or its function.  Take a look at the trailer folks sometime.  Many do no have sway bars and just hook that puppy up and go.

Most Sprinters have a somewhat limited tow capacity regarding weight as compared to gassers for the same or similar chassis.  

I say this not to criticize anyone but golly it is dangerous to tow a toad or a trailer and not have some basic and rudimentary knowledge of the limits  Sometimes, I confess, I envy those people.   I tend to over study and over engineer.  

Motorhomes are a bit more tolerant towing as compared to trailers it seems to me.  Very different and better physics than trailers such as the distance from the MH's rear axle to the front wheels of the toad.  And overall length of what is being towed is obviously very different. 


10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Blu Ray firmware update on: June 18, 2016, 08:56:05 am
John, I can't answer your question but I will tell you one thing:  I have had it with our Samsung.  After this last trip, that little babe is coming out and a cheap, basic Blue Ray player is going in the space.  The FM radio on our rig in the Blue Ray won't get anything that it is not setting on top of.  Fine, if you are in a metro area.  Out in the boonies, I use the Ford radio or an ancient AM/FM "transistor" radio my dad bought probably forty years ago that works better.   I tried adding a more sophisticated antenna to the BR for FM, but it helped not one bit.  Walmart here I come.

11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator Cooling on: June 18, 2016, 08:49:23 am
We just got back from almost three weeks in the CO and NM mountains at between 8 and 9 thousand boondocking in NF campgrounds.   Refrig worked perfectly.  200 watts of solar kept our twin sixes charged well.   No worries.

12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wrangler Unlimited as a toad? on: June 18, 2016, 08:45:32 am
We just got back from almost three weeks in the mountains of Colorado and New Mexico and pulled several passes in our 2350 towing a Jeep Trailhawk.   Yes, you do slow down going over 10,000 foot plus passes....really slow down sometimes.  But, the rest of the time and the majority of the time, no worries.   I have the same towing system that Tom mentioned. 

13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Bathroom door hinge problems on: May 30, 2016, 03:50:37 pm
Upon close examination, I think you are correct, Gail.  The wall is about an inch thick.  It may well be a piece of wood with the plywood on the outside and the bath wall on the inside.  In any event, the small diameter and shortness of the screws is just apparently inadequate for the weight.  Mine are now supported by  #8 woodscrews 3/4 inches long.

By the way, I checked the mirror screws this morning and about half of them were loose.   Now, any rv going down the road can loosen things up over time  but was surprised how quickly these caused a problem because when we bought the rig I spent a full day just making sure everything was ship shape.  


14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Bathroom door hinge problems on: May 29, 2016, 09:02:00 pm
I noticed today while getting ready for a trip that the bathroom door seemed a little difficult to easily close.  No wonder!  The top hing had completely come loose from the wall where it attaches the door.   This door has a mirror on it and after looking at the floorplans on the PC home page it appears several models may have the same door.   

Here is the problem:  the door is attached with only three hinges and they are CABINET HINGES.  Each hinge has only two small cabinet screws to secure to the wall.  Since the backboard in the walls is only slightly thicker than a sheet of paper, that is a lot of weight for the two screws on each hinge to support.  The top hinge had completely lost its two screws and I found them on the floor far back in a corner.   The center hinge was being supported by two screws which were very loose and the bottom hinge where the torque of opening would be least were both a little loose. 

I was shocked that a piano hinge had not been used, although I confess I never really thought about it much until this discovery.   Looking at a couple of the youtube tours on line from the site for various models, I saw some with cabinet hinges and at least one appeared to have a piano hinge. 

I suggest you check the mounting of your door.   Since we are getting ready to be in the rig a few days I screwed in a couple of oversized screws and will probably add two more cabinet hinges when we get back home.   That alone would reduce the weight distribution significantly.    I suspect it would be a real riot to be going down the road and the door fall off.  Or any other time for that matter.................

15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A Billion Questions (2100/2400) on: May 27, 2016, 05:14:20 pm
Kate, for what it worth.....I think what you are planning to do is more than cool!   I wish I could have  done something like that when I was your age but it wasn't the nature of my job to do it.    GO FOR IT!


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