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16  Main Forum / General Discussion / Solar installation on: May 04, 2014, 11:35:19 am
I am thinking about adding a small solar system to our 2350.  I am looking at the Renogy 100 Watt Monocrystalline Solar Panel kit from Amazon, complete with controller.  I am familiar with the math and charging rates of these kinds of installations and I know that 100 watts is pretty minimum.  All we really want from the system is a slow trickle charge for our battery bank when we are boondocking for several days.  Having come from a B Roadtrek, we would take day trips in the RT which recharged our batteries.   There is nothing less desireable than the sound of a genset in a national forest IMO.  BTW, I have changed all the incandescent bulbs in the PC to LEDs which is a big deal for us as to how we use power when we camp.   Where we go, there is no over the air tv and we seldom use any of the entertainment stuff other than the radio (remember those primitive devices?) for a little news.  No cell service where we go most of the time in the summer (way back in the NM and CO mountains). 

I searched these PC forums for solar and got some great ideas on the installation.  My only hesitation is drilling into that pristine roof.   It was noted (and a schematic was shown for a different model) that the PC construction has metal cross members every two feet across the roof for strutural integrity.  Obviously, you would need to mount (or a least partially mount) to those.  One post I researched indicated that those supports are also used for a wiring chase for some lights.  Sounds nasty to drill into if you hit a wire.  Is that in fact the case?  I understand the roof to be a thin fiberglass or similar material over plywood but I have no idea of the plywood thickness.  Anyone know how thick? 

Also, anyone that has done their own installation more recently than those posts (some of which are a couple of years old), do you have any tips or thoughts to suggest?  I plan to over engineer the mounting by using the standard Z mounts to attach to flat aluminum stock a couple of inches wide, mount the stock into the roof and then also use a good RV sealant/glue the length of the aluminum stock (1/8 inch thick by 2 inches by 48 inches) to further assure integrity of mount.  I have done a lot of mods on Bs and Cs over the years, so I can figure out the wire runs, etc.  Just properly attaching that puppy is my biggest concern.  I suspect finding the metal cross pieces in the PC frame will be pretty easy with stud finders or magnets. 

Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions or personal experiences would be appreciated.   Perhaps I also need to call PC and double check with them about the wire chases. 

I just got a braking and towing system for our new Cherokee Trailhawk and so I don't want to spend much for a small solar assist to charging.  I figure if I like the 100 watt system, I will add another panel before fall.

17  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Insulated Glass on: May 04, 2014, 11:11:28 am
We bought our ten month old 2350 last fall.  We found it, amazingly, about three miles down the street.   We were getting ready to order a new 2350 and we intended to order the thermal glass.  We live in a really hot part of the country and it gets colder than most realize during the winter.  So, thermal glass would have been ordered if we had bought brand, spanking new and not ten months old.  

With that said, we came from a Class B world to the world of Class C Phoenix Cruiser.  Simply stated, it is not possible to comfortably cool a Class B when the temperature is above about 90 degrees or even less than that if you are directly in the sun.  It is simply the nature of how Bs are constructed and their compact size.  So, with our non thermal glass, we feel like we have died and gone to a cool heaven.  I can't even imagine how much better the comfort would be with thermal glass but I am sure it is a worthy investment.   Like many B owners, I made templates of the windows and cut inserts out of foil faced insulating sheet material which was stored under the mattress.  On really hot days, we popped those in the windows for a miserable dark camper van in order to lower the heat a few degrees.   No more!   We really love our PC and one of the principle reasons we gave up the convenience of the B was HEAT.  Go thermal if you have the option.

18  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Sewer Hose Storage on: April 15, 2014, 08:46:26 am
I will check out the spare tire area. Thanks for the tip.  I am one of those that has had a macerator on my previous unit (Roadtrek 210P) for almost eight years.  If you have trouble with the macerator pump or hose and you are camped, you will appreciate the "emergency" big hose.  My Roadtrek did not have a backup system (ours was a 2007, later years one was added), so I made one myself.   Macerator hoses crack and bust and boy that can be messy!!  I can testify to that fact, believe me.

By the way, you can buy a fifteen foot water pond hose at HD or Lowes and it is perfect for a macerator hose.  I replaced my original hose with one of them and used it for five more years.  They cost less than twenty bucks and if you have problems on the road, offer a quick and easy solution to replace the hose.  I carry a couple of 1" PVC flexible pipe connections with me, which allow me to cut and splice the macerator hose in case of a problem on a trip. 

19  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Macerator compartment labels on: April 15, 2014, 08:34:56 am
When I got my 2350 last fall from the original purchaser (he only kept it ten months), he pointed out that the labels on the black and gray tanks were reversed.  He said they told him they just got them on backwards at the factory.  First thing I did was crawl under and confirm the error and then simply reverse the labels.   So, now black is black and gray is gray. 

20  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: MICHELIN TIRE RECALL on: March 31, 2014, 05:35:44 pm
My spare was fine.....never been on the ground and was not in the recall.   Got the six new MS2 tires installed today at Discount Tire.   It was about six weeks as I recall waiting.  But this was no problem since the weather kept us from going anywhere.   We were going to leave tomorrow on a trip, but weather problems again............severe storms and possibly big hail.   Maybe later in the week.   We have now owned the 2350 for six months and have used it for a grand total of one time due to weather and some other commitments.   I think we will just pull it around back and boondock in our own back yard.  Cheers
21  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thermostat? on: March 29, 2014, 10:57:45 am
I just came in the house to apologize for posting this topic.  Keelhauler had already responded and he is absolutely correct.   I discovered my error about ten minutes ago but the wonderful folks on this forum are waaaaayyy ahead of this dumb Okie Help.

My excuses include stupidity, ignorance, and maybe age ( I just had a "major digit change" in that number).   Too many years with a mechanical thermostat may also be an excuse.  It is very intersting to go from an eight year old Roadtrek 210P to this 2350 and see what technology has done to all the "stuff".   I need to study more and cuss less pulling hair out


22  Main Forum / General Discussion / Thermostat? on: March 29, 2014, 09:12:50 am
A new problem came up yesterday in our 2013 2350.   When I turn on the furnace at the thermostat, the AC also comes on.  Or, it may be the heat strips.  If I unplug from shore power, the furnace works fine from the thermostat.  

Two Questions:  
                         1.  Does this sound like a bad thermostat?  I pulled  the cover and checked the three wires for loose connections, no problem.  
                         2.  What kind of temperature should be coming from the heat strips?  Mine is barely warm.  I assume it is just a 1500 watt strip and should be putting out air equivalent to a small space heater.  Is that correct?  I am wondering if the AC is running at the same time as the strips, another sign of a control problem?  

Unfortuantely, I messed up my knee earlier in the week and can't make it to the top to check it out until the knee gets checked out.  

The model number on the back of the thermostat does not show up on a search of the Dometic website or a google search.  I wonder if it is discontinued or something.   I guess I will call PC Monday and see if they are still using that same thermostat.   Of course, I am just assuming it is the thermostat.  Unfortunately, the warranty is for two years for the original purchaser only and the unit is less than 18 months inservice, but I bought it from the original owner and therefore am the second owner.  

Anyone else had this problem on the unit?  


23  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: new vehicle on: March 29, 2014, 08:51:23 am
We picked up our Trailhawk two weeks ago today.  I have driven Grand Cherokees since 1995 and currently have a 2011 GC Limited all tricked out.  The Trailhawk is my wife's and she is quick to point that out and slow to let me drive it !  I love the Trailhawk and we got it specifically to pull behind our 2350.   Having never towed before (former Class B people) we are kind of watching and waiting and reading the various forums to see what kind of rigging folks get for the Trailhawk.  

I don't know about your area, but there is a large Jeep dealer three miles from our home and we drove fifty miles to test drive a Trailhawk and get the color that we wanted.  There are simply not that many of them around here and they don't stay on the lot long.  After we had purchased the Jeep, we were walking out the door and the salesmanager of the small town dealership hollered at us.  He came over grinning and said he just got off the phone with a dealer that had called wanting to do a dealer swap for the Trailhawk.  Too late.  That dealer was just outside of St. Louis and we were just outside of Oklahoma City, about five hundred miles away!  Fully equipped and specific colors are really tough to find as verified by our two week internet search, at least in this part of the US.   

I must say, we are now a two Jeep family and kinda hesitated about that fact but quickly got over it.  If I were personally buying a vehicle today it would be a new Cherokee instead of a Grand Cherokee.  I have owned six Jeeps and this one promises to be the best and most fun.  Still, I miss that old 4L straight six engine.   What a motor!  

You are going to love this baby.

24  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: WATER, WATER EVERYWHERE on: March 20, 2014, 08:35:38 am
The stickers on the dump switches were reversed on my 2350 when I got it last fall from the first owner.  He pointed it out and told me he had spoken to the factory about it.  Could be many units went through that way and perhaps owners should check their PC to make sure the labeling is correct. 
25  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: MICHELIN TIRE RECALL on: March 18, 2014, 09:52:44 am
I need six tires, but like has been said by others the MS2 is backordered.  I am trying to figure out what to replace the Michelins with and would appreciate any additional input. 

26  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof top carrier on: March 15, 2014, 07:34:46 pm
Tom thanks for the info and source on the plates.  We picked up the new Cherokee Trail Hawk today.  I only drove it at the dealer but my wife drove it home (bought it about fifty miles from home) and was really tickled, particularly impressed with the ride and the nav system.  It will take us some fun time setting all the controls.  I gotta admit, I really have to think the things through to get them and understand how they work.  The wife cheats:  she reads the manual.   Cheer

We plan on spending about 4-6 weeks this summer in the National Forest campgrounds in the Rockies and there will be lots of places the Trail Hawk can take us.  We go to escape the heat in the summer.  Mid sixties here today, beautiful day.  Tomorrow:  light snow.   Monday:  seventies, full sun.   

This thread started on needing extra storage.  I suspect since it is just the two of us, we will flip that backseat down when we tow it and use that for our extended camp supply storage. 

27  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof top carrier on: March 15, 2014, 08:53:43 am
Tom, she got a Trail Hawk really zipped out with goodies.   If you look at the Limited be sure it has Active Drive II.  There are two options on the 4wd and my understanding is you have to have Active Drive II to properly put the transfer case in neutral for flat towing.  We simply couldn't find a Limited within 200 miles with the color and equipment we wanted. has a very good site for shopping.    I drive a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I really like it, but it is too heavy to pull behind much less than a diesel pusher.  

The site has a "Dingy Towing" selection on their forum and a guy recently bought a Cherokee and listed the base plates and set up.  He did it himself and has pics on line.  

I have never towed in the past because we had mostly Class Bs.   I have been researching all the gear necessary to tow and seems, as usual, everyone has their own opinions.   I am going to research some more before I get into that gear selection and will seek advice from some others here that have towed.   Seems more than one person on this forum have used
a Jeep Liberty.

28  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof top carrier on: March 13, 2014, 12:23:27 pm
My wife (aka She Who Must be Obeyed) has solved this storage problem.  It is not a cheap solution:  a new Jeep Cherokee to pull behind our new (to us) 2350.   Actually, it sounded brilliant after I took a long gander at that Jeep.  Blondes always seem to come up with solutions  Wink

29  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof top carrier on: March 12, 2014, 03:03:48 pm
Thanks for the responses.   Apparently, no one is encouraging to use a roof top storage container.  As I stated, I am very familiar with Stowaway and Stowaway II and swing away hitches.  My question really was about the roof. 

Ron, in answer to your comment about a quiet hitch or similar product:  I have used hitch carriers in two rvs over the years (thus, my familiarity with what has been posted) and I think you can use them pretty well "out of the box".  However, I did make shims for one installation a few years ago.  I simply cut a couple of metal strips the right size to fit on either side of the receiver and drilled them so that the hitch pin went through the receiver, two shims and tongue of the hitch carrier.  It really solved the problem for the price of thirty minutes with a drill press and a hack saw. 

The weight concern on any hitch carrier is appropriate IMO.  You have to look at the tongue weight capacity of your hitch and then allow a percentage for safety.  Since the weight is not supported by an axle (like with a trailer), you gotta really lower that weight for me to be comfortable.   We used ours boondocking and never exceeded about 20% of the tongue weight allowed by the hitch manufacturer.   Thus, no problem.   Probably could have done more by why???

If anyone wants to try an inexpensive hitch carrier, Walmart sells a pretty nice one for about $79 and so does Harbor Freight. 

30  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof top carrier on: March 09, 2014, 10:02:28 am
Bill, that Stowaway looks great on the back of your 2350.  What I would really like to accomplish is to put something up on the roof.

Has anyone added a roof carrier to their PC?

Since we just got ours a couple of months before winter, we are trying to decide to tow or not to tow.  If we tow, then we can use the tow vehicle for extra storage.  If not, I would love to get by without a hitch carrier because they all add two feet to length, more or less.   That is the reason I am intriqued by something on the roof for light camping stuff.

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