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1  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Cab Noise on: June 28, 2016, 07:53:54 am
House noise, same as above. I pick a noise, track it down and figure out how to silence it. Sometimes I win, sometimes not.

BUT, as for cab noise... that will vary. When we first bought our Phoenix we had evil noise. We had to yell loudly and often repeatedly to each other to be heard across the cab. After several trips to Phoenix and many days living in a hotel while our Phoenix lived at the Ford dealership, we wound up with no solution. The dealer tried to get approval for a complete rebuild of the transmission and housing to locate what they thought was a wandering screw caught in between metal parts somewhere but Ford denied the request as there was no solid evidence that it was the problem and all their other tests came back negative.

We then took someone's advice here on the forum and went to a drive train guy in the panhandle of Florida who used to be the service guru that found and fixed noises for different automobile manufacturers. His answer was it is probably some kind of wind noise that kicked in when you got up to a certain speed. He explained that to reduce costs, manufacturers reduced the number of screws used to hold different parts. Those parts can now catch the wind and sing. We happened to get one that roared. You can test this "loose parts" theory by opening the hood and trying to wiggle those plastic shields and such in there. There are a lot of possibilities.

I am happy to say our growling rumble died down to a good degree. I'm sure we've become somewhat accustomed to it but we know it is also quieter as we have to talk loudly over the truck noise, but no more screaming "LEFT TURN!!!!!!" over and over. We even listen to the radio now, turned up more than in the Subaru, but at least we can hear it.

So, it will vary. It is a truck. The truck cab itself has a certain amount of wind and road noise. It is hauling a good load up and down and around the country which sometimes makes her rumble AND there is always a chance that yours will "sing"... but I sincerely hope not.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2016 - 2351 Options and Modifications on: June 25, 2016, 07:25:59 am
Ron, we have the Ford rubber mat "installed" over the carpet. I believe the pricing for the mat was somewhere around $400. Ours is used. Phoenix put it in when we were having so much trouble with the noise in our cab right after purchase. They had pulled it out of a chassis that came in to them so it is damaged in some spots from the removal (I assume it was glued down previously and they just ripped it out to ready the cab for the "Phoenix touch"). They offered it to us when Ford said they couldn't do anything for the noise. I hope to eventually pull the seats, remove the mat, remove the carpet, and then reinstall the mat. My concern is water. Any water that gets in around the openings or edges of the mat will go into that carpet and stay there. NOT good for the floor. There are decent size openings around the seat bases that concern me. I don't know if you would have these openings with a new mat or if it is because it was cut to fit a different pedestal. If the openings are pre-cut, I'd suggest coating the floor with some sort of waterproofing in that area before installing the mat. The mat is thick and squishy so I don't know how it would work to install carpet over it. I'd check with Ford first to see how they do it. I think they have a flatter insulation mat that goes under carpet. The rubber one we have is from an ambulance or something.

I considered having that spray on truck bed stuff installed but we got the mat and that ended that. Someone suggested finding an installer and arranging to be there when they sprayed a truck bed as they may be able to add on coating the cab of the rig for a fraction of a single install price. I have no idea how long it would stink in there if we did that but it's an option.

We LOVE the Ford mat. It cut down on heat, noise and serious mess. I just sweep it out and occasionally wipe it down. We do have WeatherTech mats on top of it each side to catch the big chunks of crud so we can just tip those out for a quick clean but the passenger side mat moves around a lot. Tom, do you have the mat to fit across the entire cab as one piece? The website didn't list the E-Series and we were not sure if the F-Series mat would fit. We bought the WeatherTech side window deflectors for the F-Series F-450 and they DON'T fit. I haven't attempted to cut them down to size yet so they are in our storage unit, taunting me.

I will now be looking into the QuietRide Solutions for the doors and such. Insulating that cab would be helpful. (Don't tell John I'm shopping for RV stuff again - I'll break it to him when the time is right... like when it's over 100 degrees out and the AC struggles to keep up... THEN he'll think the insulation is a brilliant plan).
3  Main Forum / Polls / Re: PC with TOAD or Others on: June 25, 2016, 06:42:24 am
We have both a TOAD and bicycles, however, our bike rack usually rides on the TOAD. We did get the larger hitch receiver installed on the Subaru and bought the matching bike rack (had the option for either size hitch) so we can move the bike rack to the Phoenix and leave the car. If you have a smaller hitch on your bike rack, it can still move to the Phoenix if you buy an adapter but I've read it rattles more. We use the "quiet hitch" type things on both the tow bar for the car and the bike rack. It seriously reduces the wobbling at the hitch receiver.
4  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 16, 2016, 09:20:22 am
AWESOME! Thank you again, Barry. I gave you yet another helpful/neighborly. I can't imagine how we would have done with our first RV if we didn't have all of you here on this forum. Even with the quality of our Phoenix, there are still so many things we would have been clueless about. I expect we would have gone repeatedly to repair shops for things that we could do ourselves if we had a clue. And now we have a clue... and a very nice file of instructions to try to keep us out of trouble with the rig. We love our Phoenix AND our Phoenix family here on the forum.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator Cooling on: June 15, 2016, 07:32:13 am
Same with us. We spent about a month and a half or better in the Rockies. I don't know exactly what altitude but we never did anything special and never had any problems. I do know we were up high enough that altitude affected our breathing - but not the refrigerator or freezer in any noticeable way. We also have the 2552 with fridge in the slide and vents on vertical wall.
6  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 15, 2016, 07:28:10 am
The Starlights is also LED. We just don't like lights on outside most of the time. The Starlights 1000 uses toggling to change the mode of the light. Turn the switch on once and the light is on until you turn it off. Turn the switch on-off-on in succession and it goes into sleep mode (with a tiny blue light that blinks periodically so you know it is set). It wakes and turns on when two things happen 1) it is dark enough as determined by the built in daylight sensor; and 2) something large enough trips the built in motion detector. We like to set it to sleep mode when we leave camp so that our site stays dark until we return. As soon as we come along the side of the Phoenix, the detector picks us up and turns on the light. When we forget to turn it on, we stumble into picnic tables, the step, chairs, etc. If there is no motion for awhile, it turns off again. We love our light.

Tom Hanlon commented that the blinking blue light could make people think we have a security system. Having the light snap on when they get close would help reinforce that.
7  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 14, 2016, 09:08:51 am
Thanks Barry, that's the way we'll go if we toasted the one we have. We taped over it and will call today to see if they'll send the lenses for the sensors. Then comes cutting the paint and caulk to get her off. Seriously NOT looking forward to that part but we recently caulked a few items on the rig so we have the caulk ready to go when we put the light back on. We are out again all next week so we'll be camping with no light if it shorted out. So sad. We have full hookups and would have left it on every day when we went out so that it lit up for us on the way back in. We love having the light kick on automatically. Guess we'll tote our flashlights each day... or, more likely, forget our flashlights and stumble around trying to find the door. We've got experience in that too.
8  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 13, 2016, 04:06:30 pm
Thank you! We will tape it today but it has rained since they were broken out. Hopefully the light hasn't shorted and all will be well.
9  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 13, 2016, 02:57:45 pm
We also bought the StarLights smart light 1000 porch light (motion detector with daylight sensor), and shipped it to Phoenix. They installed it prior to the paint phase. Once we got it, we replaced the clear lens with amber. If we remember to turn it on, it lights up as we approach so we can see to get into the house safely. http://www.starlightsinc.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=11&idcategory=4

We posted the above note way back when. An update is that we still love our StarLights smart light but are now in a bit of a pickle with it. As stated above, we shipped it to Phoenix before the paint phase and it is painted with matching full body paint. Well, somebody smashed the lense covers over the motion detectors and it doesn't look like just the plastic covers can be replaced. They didn't smash the amber lense over the main light (which would be easy to replace), just the little squares over the motion sensors (and possibly the sensors themselves, we're still trying to figure out what works and what doesn't). It happened at our "secure" storage site (we know because we had the rig out, washed her, camped in her and used the light then returned it to storage for a week, and they were broken out when we picked her up again). I can see the caulk line around the light so it's possible they painted the rig and painted the light and then installed the light. If so, we can replace it or take it apart and maybe fix it. If we replace it with an identical light, our choices are white or black, either of which will stand out on the coppery brown background. If the rig was painted with the light in place, and the new light doesn't match the footprint of the old light, we will have a white area around the light. Argggg.

We figure someone was doing something they shouldn't and thought the motion detectors were security cameras so they smashed them. We didn't find anything missing on our rig (so far). We just returned from a trip and will report the vandalism to the storage facility. Maybe someone was doing something to the rig next to us.
10  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning exterior of PC on: June 13, 2016, 07:33:21 am
See Ron, there is always a solution. Yours would be more functional and graceful. If you build it, upload a picture for the rest of us. If anyone tries the Peter Pan routine, upload that one too.
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Campground Host on: June 12, 2016, 09:02:20 pm
We would definitely be up for it if we weren't still stuck in Maryland. Mid-nineties this past weekend and humid. Gotta love it. We hope to be back out on the west coast by the end of next year and will be looking for camp host jobs. I hope you find awesome host buddies. That would be the icing on the cake for what sounds like a great hosting job.
12  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning exterior of PC on: June 12, 2016, 08:55:41 pm
Ron, you're a DIY type of guy. It's time to bolt some nice sturdy pulleys in that garage ceiling and strap into a climbing harness. With a little grace and style and you can fly like Peter Pan without putting your weight on the front of the Phoenix. We don't have a garage so we'll have to hunt for a really sturdy tree limb to pull it off. I'm not sure I trust John on belay for me but I could probably control the rope on my own... or recruit the granddaughter. She's been a zip line pro since she was about 4. The parents let us do it.
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Pros and Cons of Insulated Glass and Rear Ladder/roof rack on: June 06, 2016, 06:53:55 am
If it is the type that cranks open instead of sliding, then you check from the outside. Crank open a window then go around outside and look at it from the edge. The two panes of glass with a spacer between is visible. The outer pane is large than the inner pane. The inner pane and spacer fit inside the window frame when closed. The outer frame aligns with the fixed glass on the rest of the window.
14  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Drying Hooks on: June 04, 2016, 07:23:31 am
We found these hooks and tested them out last weekend. http://smile.amazon.com/Portable-Laundry-Hanging-Stainless-clothing/dp/B013Y1YMFK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages02 They work really well in the Phoenix. They are similar to skirt hanger hooks except they are individual hooks with a little rubber coated tip.

They fit on the closet rod, over the shower enclosure (with the rubber tip touching the glass), over the shower door, over our towel bars, on the handles of cabinets, hooked into the awning rails, etc. They were handy for drying clothing, towels (two or more per heavy item), dish rags, etc. I plan to test them out on the awning with a decorative sheet (called "tapestries" online) hung on the awning as a sun shade. We found them to be incredibly handy.

We do have a tripod type drying rack but for quick items here and there, these work great. I clip them one to the other alternating left side/right side in chains of six and hang them on the closet rod when not in use. We don't drive with them in place as they would swing around and possibly scratch finishes but we stow everything before travel anyhow.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Much Are You Towing on: June 04, 2016, 06:56:52 am
We tow the Subaru Forester behind our 2552. We are full time when on the road so it has gear inside it as well as gear loaded in a hard case roof top carrier (which undoubtedly causes extra drag). We also have the Swing Daddy bike rack on the back of the Subaru loaded with two bikes. I don't know what the weight of all that is, but it's up there.

We're the same as PAX going up steep inclines, some slow down but not extreme. We crossed Kansas in strong cross winds and our friends following behind said the Subaru was all over the place, back and forth in the wind but I never felt it.

We have no problem towing and usually don't know the car is back there.
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