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106  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 12, 2017, 10:04:15 am
Welcome, Will and Joyce!! I'm glad to hear you found your way to a Phoenix. I'm sure you will both love it and enjoy many happy adventures together. I look forward to your future input and welcome your questions (we always have questions). The only long term problem we've found with the Phoenix is that we get depressed when we aren't out in her.  It's an addiction we are OK with. ENJOY!!!
107  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: National Park Fees on: April 12, 2017, 09:41:20 am
You don't realize how ingrained the culture is (or how you've become accustomed to rude, "privileged people" behavior) until you travel outside the zone. We flew to western Montana years ago to visit friends. While driving from airport to friends' house in a rental car people waved at us, sometimes the whole time they passed. It was car after car coming the opposite direction (far less traffic than here, but still four or more cars in a row did this). Being from the DC Area, we pulled to the side of the road and checked the car but couldn't find anything wrong that would cause all this attention. Upon arrival we told our friends about our confusion and they laughed at us. They said "In Montana, a hand signal from another vehicle is a wave. People wave a friendly hello to everyone they pass. It's not the same hand signal they use in your area."

OH! So, around here we see lots and lots of "birds" and very few friendly waves.

So as you travel, aim for the places where everyone smiles and waves... and if you're in the DC area and several people wave, you either left your coffee cup on top of the car or there is a cop around the corner. Sometimes I smile and wave at random people just to mess with their heads.
108  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: National Park Fees on: April 11, 2017, 07:43:45 am
Holly, I think it maybe time for you to move out of the D.C. Area and all the political crap. 

I TOTALLY agree!
109  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: National Park Fees on: April 10, 2017, 10:21:16 am

(1) by striking “The Secretary” and inserting:

    “(A) The Secretary”;

(2) by striking “, at a cost of $10.00,”;

(3) by striking “shall be valid for the lifetime of the pass holder.” and inserting the following: “shall be available—

“(i) for a period of 12 months from the date of the issuance, at a cost of $20; and

“(ii) for the lifetime of the passholder, at a cost equal to the cost of the National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass purchased under subsection (a).”; and

(4) by adding at the end the following:

    “(B) The Secretary shall issue a pass under subparagraph (A)(ii), for no additional cost, to any individual who provides evidence, under policies and guidelines determined by the Secretary, that the individual has purchased a pass under subparagraph (A)(i) for each of the 4 years prior to being issued a pass under this subparagraph.”.

Here is a link to the full bill:

Wow! Gotta love legalese. My translation: The pass will cost $20 per year. IF you can show sufficient proof that you paid $20 each of 4 consecutive years (having then paid $80), you get a lifetime pass and don't have to pay anymore.

Disclaimer: Above statement in no way implies inside knowledge or even accurate knowledge of the workings of political minds. Translations made were "best effort" and in no way should be construed to be word of law. Respondent is not liable for any direct or indirect injury, loss, stress, or mild or infinite confusion that may arise from use or attempted use of above statement."
110  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got "Bob" home on: April 09, 2017, 09:39:41 am
Ours is named "Spirit" which is short for "Spirit of the Woods" - which is where we like to be with her - settled under gorgeous trees, listening to the sounds of nature.
111  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: National Park Fees on: April 09, 2017, 09:31:33 am
Interesting note on getting the word out. I'm on the National Park Service email list and while they send me email multiple times a week, not a whisper have I seen about the potential increase. I guess that would be too "formal" but I think a note saying it is under consideration would have been nice. I don't make the age jump in time either but John has the card so as long as I don't forget him at a rest area somewhere, we're good to go.

The National Park Service is stlll running their "Every Kid in a Park" program where 4th graders get a free annual pass. If you have friends, kids, grandkids that are eligible, it is a great deal and easy to do. Info here:

I also agree that $80 is still a great deal, especially for RVers that wander the parks.
112  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: 2017 PC Rally on: April 07, 2017, 08:55:47 am
There is usually a full day bus tour included in that Rally price. In DC we did an all day and evening tour with stops to visit the Smithsonian Museums, get dinner, view memorials at night, etc. The driver narrated the tour and even the locals learned new things. In Colorado, it included the bus and admission to get to and go up Pike's Peak. I don't think I know the plan for this one.
113  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Towing calculations on: April 04, 2017, 07:38:30 am
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!! "Man card"??? You are seriously going to get yourself in trouble with the women on this forum. We use a mechanic now but I know how to put air in the tires, change the tire, change the oil, flush the radiator, gap the points and more. I've also changed batteries, distributor caps and wiring. I am the one that does most of the troubleshooting on the rig (though John does most of the repairs that don't require a mechanic). 

I was once a poor person with a finicky car so I traveled with the matching repair manual and used it on many occasions. This skill cost me a boyfriend way back when. He was driving and my car died roadside. He got out to fiddle with this, that and the other thing under the hood. I sat in the car and pulled out the trusty repair manual. I figured out the problem, swapped a fuse from something we didn't need to something we did and called him back in to get on down the road. He was seriously upset that I had undermined his "manliness" by resolving the car issue myself. No amount of fiddling with the engine was going to fix it and nobody was nearby to see that I was the one that found the solution but his ego couldn't handle the situation and he was in the wind. His loss, my gain. I hereby revoke HIS "man card" because that guy was seriously lacking.

sorry for hijacking of the string - back to the regularly scheduled towing calculation discussion

114  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Furnace not working on: April 04, 2017, 07:19:51 am
I agree with Jatrax - make sure you have your paperwork and make it clear you ARE NOT going to pay since it is under warranty. You should be able to get a written quote to that effect. I am aware of two common problems with the Atwood Furnace. First is the igniter - here's our tale of woe,1717.0.html on that one. Second is the mother board. It's hard to tell if all the mother board replacements were needed as that is a larger repair cost so some shops may have replaced the mother board when it was actually the igniter. They get paid more. Someone on the forum went through the whole deal replacing mother board first, problem remained, replaced igniter and all was well. Our furnace has not acted up since we got the igniter replaced.

I can't recall if it is in our referenced post above but Atwood does not pay the service guys for warranty work until they send the damaged/replaced part back to Atwood and it is inspected. This by itself makes the service guy want to get the cash from you up front.
115  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: West Coast PC Reunion 2017 on: April 01, 2017, 12:38:44 pm
We pickup our new PC 6/28, so we will look forward to the West Coast reunion in 2018; we live in the Los Angeles area.
You WILL have your cruiser in time for the Annual Intervec Phoenix travel club rally/reunion which is being held in Sisters, Oregon this year - September. Great way to meet other owners, make new friends and just enjoy.
116  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Really? on: March 27, 2017, 10:32:45 am
Catsaplenty, I am sorry it did not come out as well as we all hoped and reassured you that it would. Phoenix has gone to great ends to satisfy many of us and I'm sorry that they did not carry through on their promises to you. I don't know what else you could have done short of refusing delivery of the rig as it was not as you ordered. I know that in itself would have added to your stress. I hope that your future joy with your PC will help dull the pain of the process of getting it. I hope you have many happy traveling adventures and that we get to meet sometime down the road.
117  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Two PC's on the same day? on: March 26, 2017, 08:41:31 am
We spotted one in a yard on the western side of South Mountain near Hagerstown, MD. Our GPS told us the little back roads were the way to go and though we were skeptical, it was right... AND it took us right past a Phoenix we didn't know was living 20 minutes from where we're staying. If you are on the forum and want to meet other owners, drop us a line. 
118  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dewinterizeing on: March 21, 2017, 09:16:28 am
In place of RV antifreeze in the traps you can use windshield washer fluid. It is generally cheaper and you still get protection down to -20. If you are using RV antifreeze in the lines, you are already putting some in the traps. Just saying.

I thought that mold could grow any where it is damp not just in standing water. If there is standing water in the tank, can't the mold grow on the sides and top of the tank?

I don't use RV antifreeze in the lines, I blow the water out.

Just MY opinion, but no, mold cannot grow on the top and sides of the water tank just because there's a little bit of water in the bottom of the tank.  Besides the fact the sides and top wouldn't be damp, plus there's no food source.

Again.. Just my opinion and experience.. I am NO expert on mold.

And thid:

Mold cannot produce their own food, thus they are parasitic in nature. Molds get food by absorbing minerals, sugars and water from the plants, soil, animals or decaying matter upon which they live.

This sounds good and logical but in reality, I have a semi-opaque jug of boiled water I keep on the counter for the dogs (elderly, finicky stomachs) and I have to wash it out periodically because the top and sides (above the water line) get slimy. I don't know what it is but something that I don't want to consume is growing there.
119  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Every little bit of storage counts on: March 18, 2017, 10:39:59 am
We've had ours open a few times and had no trouble opening or closing it so go for it. It's best to find out there's a problem sitting in the driveway then out on the road somewhere.
120  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Customizations on new 2552 on: March 16, 2017, 07:35:41 am
I forgot to ask, does that dinette make into a single bed? That would be great when the grandchild is along.
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