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106  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Chassis Mods by Ford-Approved Subcontractor for PC -- Any Probs? on: October 17, 2016, 09:11:57 am
It's cool they can hide the fuel filler door but it seems the gas fumes would frequently wind up wafting into the vehicle being so close to door and windows. It will be interesting to see how that works for people.
107  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ground Clearance of Sewer Drain Outlet and Hydraulic Jacks on: October 16, 2016, 08:24:30 am
We've seen several Lexington RV's by Forest River that look a lot like our Phoenix. It appears they don't make them any more if their website shows all models but I see used ones on the different RV sale sites. We had several Lexington owners checking out our rig and commenting that they wished they'd known about Phoenix Cruisers before they bought the Lexington. One couple had just bought their unit and were having issues with "tail wag" as well as being disappointed in the build, especially after seeing ours. They had downsized from a DP and liked the sleek "easy to handle" style... except they apparently didn't get "easy to handle". I gave them a brochure and the look in the man's eye said he was considering ditching the Lexington and buying Phoenix.

I guess what I'm saying is while there may not be many choices like the Phoenix, it seems a lot of the people that checked out all the choices then buy or covet the Phoenix so so it doesn't matter if you got to check out the competition if you've already bought the best.
108  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 14, 2016, 08:46:13 am
That is our plan though we haven't been out in the Phoenix since we purchased the table. The ladies from Vermont said they used it inside (and I'm pretty sure outside too).

We intend to use it inside and outside when needed. So far we have not needed the outside table that we've been carrying, well, maybe once. The few times we didn't have a picnic table, we just winged it and lounged around in our chairs using other items as side tables for food. That said, we've only set up the Phoenix table two or three times since we purchased in May of 2013 - and that's while we were on board full time and working for a year and a half. One of the times we set it up was simply to demonstrate to people planning to buy a Phoenix.

We do have a custom, flip up "desk" that we used for our computers when we were working half time on board and needed to work inside. Even that is seldom used now that we've retired. I'm pretty sure we never put it up just for eating. We ate sitting in living room chairs at the old house and that's primarily how we eat when on the road... that or at the picnic table. I guess it's kind of funny that we do the "sit down" meals more when we are out in the woods than when we are inside a house.

109  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 11, 2016, 08:31:47 am
Maybe it is the color change. I was thinking the silver and white was the old style and the mosaic was the new one since the mosaic is the one on the Coleman site. However, the silver one did cost more on Amazon so maybe it is the replacement/new style... OR they could be getting rid of all of them. There are quite a few styles on Amazon including one with benches.
110  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dont make the same mistake and make PC mad on: October 10, 2016, 05:16:36 pm
We had trouble with our Atwood furnace also and had trouble getting warranty repairs. I had communicated with Kermit in advance so I knew that the different components are under warranty with the different companies. So I KNEW it should go through Atwood without my having to pay up front. After freezing for a while we gave up on the authorized repair center and drove south. We tried again with another Atwood service dealer with no luck. We finally waited it out and had Kermit handle it in Indiana when we got there. He had his local Atwood guy fix the unit and I sincerely hope he didn't get hit with any fees. It was definitely a warranty repair.

I know you are upset with Phoenix but you were, um, screwed by the Atwood service dealers. Since I had similar service issues at two separate dealers in two separate states and you had issues with two more dealers in more states, I'm going to lob out a guess that Atwood is not so good at paying their warranty claims so the dealers try to dodge it. Those Atwood dealers flat out lied to you so they could get paid right away. Atwood requires that they send in the bad part to get reimbursed for the warranty repair (I know due to many calls to Atwood). By the way, it may not be your motherboard - that is just the nice big expensive repair they claim it needs. Many times it is the igniter. Atwood seems to have some bad ones out there (though they seem to have bad motherboards also). If you keep having problems, try swapping that igniter. If it is still under warranty, get it from Atwood or verify which one won't void the warranty. I think my furnace warranty was two years so check that before messing with it if it goes out again. If they finally process your parts and determine the motherboard(s) was not bad, I'd suggest pressing Atwood for resolution since it is THEIR authorized service centers that pulled this off. Perhaps it will help prevent other people from getting the same run around.

We have come to realize that since an RV is many different parts from many different manufacturers, there tends to be a lot of finger pointing. Manufacturers try to put the blame and repair cost back on the RV builder. Phoenix packed all your warranty cards in that huge zipper case that came with your motor home. You sent those in to each manufacturer and they are responsible for warranty repairs for their product. ONLY if Phoenix installed something wrong or something else in the rig caused the problem, should Phoenix be liable. In our case, Atwood claimed we had insufficient propane pressure to run the furnace - this they diagnosed over the phone. After verifying that wasn't the issue, I was back on the phone with Atwood and back to finding a repair shop that could help us. The repair shop tested the propane flow and it was proven to be fine so Atwood could no longer deny it was their product that was faulty.

Kermit has helped us out repeatedly with issues that are not the fault or liability of Phoenix. I hope he is able to get Atwood to do the right thing by you.
111  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 10, 2016, 04:48:51 pm
We saw a really cool table at the Phoenix Travel Club Reunion this year (thank you Vermont crew!). It is actually two tables you can use independently or with connectors to make them into one square table or one long, narrow table. They have multi-part, screw together legs so you can adjust them to three different heights. All the parts snap inside and they fold up and connect together into a suitcase type thing that weighs about 12 pounds. It was so cool, we bought one. It will replace the adjustable outdoor table that Ron Dittmer recommended (which worked great when we needed it) as well as the wooden table that Phoenix supplies. Our new table weighs less than either of those and will work as a short coffee table, a dining table for our couch or camp chairs and as a counter height work area when we want to expand our kitchen space. We bought the one with the silver top but they also sell one with a mosaic top. We plan to store it either behind the driver seat for short runs or strapped in the wardrobe where the Phoenix table lived (the Phoenix table will hang out in storage so it can be reunited with the motor home if we ever sell it).

https://smile.amazon.com/Coleman-2000018147-Pack-Away-4-In-1-Table/dp/B002YXR766/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1476131863&sr=8-2&keywords=coleman%2Btable&th=1
112  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Barbecue Grill suggestions when plumbed for gas on: October 10, 2016, 04:36:14 pm
We bought the same grill as Mike (PAX) on his suggestion and John loves it. We purchased the wrong regulator kit first and had to get the low pressure one so we could connect to the low pressure quick connect that Phoenix installs. While we like the grill, it does take a lot of space in our bin and we don't need that large of a surface most of the time. We hated the clean up until we bought the grill mats and now it's super easy.

I have been coveting Bill Golden's beloved grill, the CADAC Safari, https://smile.amazon.com/CADAC-Safari-Chef-Lightweight-Gas/dp/B002JTQ25W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476130935&sr=8-1&keywords=cadac+safari but it has to run on canisters as it has a high pressure regulator. I found that CADAC makes a low pressure model of this grill https://smile.amazon.com/CADAC-Safari-Chef-Lightweight-Gas/dp/B002JTQ25W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476130935&sr=8-1&keywords=cadac+safari but for now the shipping to the United States is prohibitive so I'm watching and waiting. It has numerous cook surfaces so it would be more versatile than the straight up grill that we now have. Everything nests so it is compact.

The best grill for you will be the one that fits the way you like to cook and that you use on a regular basis. Just another thing that is different for everyone.

I've also seen work-arounds on the internet where people have changed the fittings on Coleman grills to make them work on a low pressure line but I was not comfortable with playing with the gas fittings so we are sticking with those already built to work that way.
113  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Magne Shades on: October 07, 2016, 08:51:52 am
We also love the Magne shades. We put them on as part of our standard site set up. Used them continuously for that year and a half full time plus all other trips over the 3.5 years we've had the coach. They take away that "fish bowl" feeling you have when people walk past the front of the rig and happen to look in. During the day, the walkers see nothing but black screening while you see the walkers. We close the curtains as soon as the light from the inside is greater than the light outside and the see-through effect reverses. The only time we have a problem putting them on is if John jacks the front end up too much and then it is hard to reach. At 5'5" I can get them on and off fairly easily if the coach is sitting on the ground. The shades come with a fiberglass type stick that you can use to put them on and pull them off. There are pockets at the top of the windshield shade that the pole slips into so you can leverage it up if needed. We've never used the pole. It sits in the back wardrobe just in case. I can't remember if we paid extra for the case or not but we have a nice vinyl/leatherette case that the shades easily fit into. We pull the shades off (wet or dry), fold them and drop them into the case. They ride in the large outside bin ready to go back up when we stop again. No problems, no signs of wear and tear or sun damage. They work great and we're happy we spent the money on them. We bought directly from the Magne Shades people. Phoenix had a short time that they weren't selling them and we hit that gap so had to go direct. You can spend a bunch of extra money and get shades with designs or even custom photos printed on them. Ours are black. 
114  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Souvenir pin travel map on: October 06, 2016, 03:36:16 pm
What an awesome way to keep the memories. I'm sure there is a tale to tell with each of those pins and many fond memories to go with it. Thanks for sharing a really cool idea.
115  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Eat What You Love cookbook - URGENT on: October 01, 2016, 08:27:54 am
No worries. You'll get there. We were the newbies a few years back and I can't count the number of times the awesome people on this forum helped us out. Now we contribute when we can and absorb the knowledge offered up here the rest of the time. No one person knows everything but the huge brain trust that jumps in to help time after time is astounding. I don't know what we would have done without it. Every time I meet a PC owner I ask if they are on the forum and if the answer is no, I tell them they really should sign up. The Phoenix family (factory and forum) is amazing.
116  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Eat What You Love cookbook - URGENT on: September 30, 2016, 09:03:01 am
Thank you Gail for the website tip. I don't know why, but I never thought of searching for her website even though I now see it listed in her book. I'll be flagging that site for on the road use.
117  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Eat What You Love cookbook - URGENT on: September 29, 2016, 06:23:51 pm
Yes, it looks like the price went back up. I have no clue why it was dropped for a short time. I'm sorry you missed out.
118  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The Case of The Missing Power on: September 28, 2016, 07:00:42 am
The 12v outlet is just a round hole next to the red light and button for the antenna/TV thing on the very front wall of the cabinet over the passenger seat. Someone on the forum tipped me to that one. It's possible they don't install that anymore but I don't see logic in that so I suspect it is there, you just didn't know it.

No other ideas on the battery drain.
119  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The Case of The Missing Power on: September 27, 2016, 09:31:08 am
I can't answer the question "what is pulling power?" but I can say that our 2013 2552 has sat for several months at a time with no driving or usage with the battery kill switch off and the batteries are mostly charged when we take her out. They have not drained as you stated yours does. They drop a little, but not much.

One battery drain we keep an eye on is the tank heaters. People reach for the water pump switch in the bathroom (middle of the night, half asleep, etc.) and hit the other switch in the same area, which is the tank heaters. Unless you replace the switch with one with an indicator light, you don't notice the heaters are on. Some people have replaced this switch with a lighted one as mentioned and others have simply inverted the switch and painted the "bottom" of the rocker switch bright red so it catches your eye when you walk in the bathroom and you realize it is in the "on" position. My brain says the kill switch should be turning this off so it may be a moot point.

One thing I would check is the front cabinet where you have a cigarette lighter type 12v outlet as well as the TV and antenna connections. I wonder if those remain "live" when the kill switch is off. Also with your inverter/converter change, do those draw directly from the battery and somehow bypass the switch? If yours is pulling power when ours doesn't, it may be the changes you had done.

Last, did you call Phoenix and ask if there is anything that is "exempted" from the kill switch? I know our steps work when the kill switch is "off" so they either feed off the truck battery or they bypass that switch.
120  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Eat What You Love cookbook - URGENT on: September 27, 2016, 09:14:05 am
Glad to know people are enjoying it. We tried the Amazing Smashed Garlic Butter Chicken from this book and the Oven Baked Onion Rings from her first book "Eat What You Love" and they were both very good AND got the seal of approval form the picky granddaughter (NOT an easy feat). The Breakfast Cheesecake in the quick and easy book got rave reviews from everyone that tried it this past weekend at a friends getaway, even the gluten-free people. So, eat without guilt and ENJOY!
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