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196  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Re. Sandyc Replacing Norcold w. Dometic, & Options on: November 02, 2016, 10:26:18 am
The electrical power control/surge suppressor can be hard wired into the rig either by the manufacturer or a very knowledgeable and capable owner OR purchased as a separate, portable unit. We use the Progressive Industries portable 30 amp unit and love it. It has saved us from some very badly wired or faulty campground connections. There are several different brands and I haven't reviewed them lately but one selling point on the Progressive I liked is the replaceable parts - not having to replace the whole unit - if something zaps it and fries it. 

It is an expensive item so we use a cable and lock to fasten it to the post when possible.

Several owners on the forum have a unit hardwired in their Phoenix.
197  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 28, 2016, 08:06:48 am
Ron, question on the pedals. I haven't driven in a few months but drove our Phoenix extensively before, however, I've never been conscious of any "skew" to the pedals or need to angle my legs while driving. I suspect there was a redesign somewhere between your 2007 and our 2013.  Hopefully some other owners of recent models can weigh in with thoughts on this.

My main spot is the passenger/navigator seat and I don't like the way the hump pushes in on that side. It doesn't really twist my body buy my left leg is definitely restricted from moving left. Since it is a Ford thing, it is going to be in all brands that use the Ford chassis. That said, we are accustomed to it and are both pretty comfortable in either side of the cockpit. It takes a little work to get up and out to the back but sliding the seat back before making the effort helps a lot. I usually don't bother and just shift over and through.

198  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Add Windows to Diagonal Area Behind Driver & Passenger Doors? on: October 20, 2016, 07:32:43 am
A couple at the Intervec-Phoenix Travel Club Reunion in DC this year had a window on the "wing" wall on the passenger side. They had a captain's chair or Euro chair in front of it so they said it didn't really open up the inside that much. They bought the unit used and were not aware that the window might not have been installed by the manufacturer. After I mentioned it, they said they had noticed the gasket on the window did not fit as well as all the other windows so it was probably an after market addition.

You would need a custom window covering as well or the window would be like a big fish tank viewing port after dark.

I believe there is a lot more going on in that wing wall on the driver's side so it could be a much more difficult modification.
199  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Seeking Recommendations For A Compact Inside 110V Heater on: October 17, 2016, 10:02:10 am
Ron, I also checked out the Pelonis and read numerous reviews but haven't purchased yet. These small ceramic heaters definitely get the higher ranking and satisfaction level. I don't know how true this is but in the reviews several people mentioned that the design had changed and they were no longer as happy with the new models (looks like that planned obsolescence thing again - or overzealous cost reduction). People were looking for the older model Pelonis heaters to get the lifetime reliability and superior performance they were known for. I did that for a while but then just started avoiding cold places.

When we were stuck in evil cold with a broken furnace a few years ago, we resorted to using two small electric heaters but neither was so overly remarkable to list here. They kept us from freezing but warm and cozy we were not. Of course we were in an ice covered RV in a barren campground with wind and snow whistling around us. Not our favorite experience. 
200  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Kitchen Mirror on: October 17, 2016, 09:49:29 am
If you cook, you do not want paper towels or spices over the stove. I purchased the magnetic paper towel holder recommended by another forum user (which they loved as it worked for them). I popped it right up there under the microwave and turned on the stove - the whoosh of hot air lifted the end of the paper towels, they unrolled toward the flames and I was grabbing and smacking and turning the stove off as quickly as possible. We returned the magnetic holder and bought an over the cabinet door one that hangs on our pantry and holds the towels vertically similar to this one I put felt pads on it where it touches wood to prevent marring.

Spices should never be stored near a heat source, it ages them prematurely. Ours are in the cupboard and occasionally sit on the shelves mentioned below if we aren't blasting heat in that zone.

We purchased a kitchen "wall bar" system from Ikea and two hanging wine glass holders/rack/shelf things that hook over the bar. Phoenix installed the bar over the back of our stovetop and the "shelves" ride in the cabinet and get put up as part of our setup. We use them to hold the little jar of ground coffee, sweetener, and miscellaneous small countertop clutter items - we normally remove these prior to firing up those burners. The wine racks aren't shown anymore on the Ikea site but I think it was the Grundtal system shown here - we had to go with the shorter bar. It's possible these systems won't fit with newer models as they widened the kitchen window (jealous) but there may be something out there at kitchen stores that will fit. Someone else on the forum used the Fintorp series and hangs a basket on it for fruit and such

We kept the mirror and like it. It is easy to clean and brightens the area. If you hate the idea of glass, Ikea and home stores sell metal backsplashes/panels for your walls. The glass tile is beautiful but heavy and I figure it will be harder to clean than a smooth sheet of glass as you now deal with grout. A metal panel would be about the same to clean as the mirror but might show streaks and spots even more clearly than the mirror (due to reflection of the front of the rig - it confuses the eye... until it gets really bad then you have to clean it).

We also have a small, clear Command hook next to the mirror where we hang a silicone mitt when in camp (rides in the drawer).
201  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Hydraulic Jacks and Frame Bending on: October 17, 2016, 09:23:02 am
We can attest to the ability to roll off the jacks because we did. Early on, shortly after purchase John jacked up the back and down we went. We didn't "roll" due to the locked wheels in the back that then hit the ground but we did drop forward. Needless to say, lesson learned - we never did that again.

I have a question on the concern of frame bending. Isn't the frame what they use to securely lift the vehicle for repairs? Vehicles occasionally stay up on those lifts for days, seemingly with no issues. I understand the jacks are probably a more limited contact zone than the lifts but they are supporting both sides of the steel frame or one side is supported on the tires. Surely vehicle design takes those factors into consideration or the jacks would not be deemed safe for use. They've been around for years.
202  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Chassis Mods by Ford-Approved Subcontractor for PC -- Any Probs? on: October 17, 2016, 09:11:57 am
It's cool they can hide the fuel filler door but it seems the gas fumes would frequently wind up wafting into the vehicle being so close to door and windows. It will be interesting to see how that works for people.
203  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ground Clearance of Sewer Drain Outlet and Hydraulic Jacks on: October 16, 2016, 08:24:30 am
We've seen several Lexington RV's by Forest River that look a lot like our Phoenix. It appears they don't make them any more if their website shows all models but I see used ones on the different RV sale sites. We had several Lexington owners checking out our rig and commenting that they wished they'd known about Phoenix Cruisers before they bought the Lexington. One couple had just bought their unit and were having issues with "tail wag" as well as being disappointed in the build, especially after seeing ours. They had downsized from a DP and liked the sleek "easy to handle" style... except they apparently didn't get "easy to handle". I gave them a brochure and the look in the man's eye said he was considering ditching the Lexington and buying Phoenix.

I guess what I'm saying is while there may not be many choices like the Phoenix, it seems a lot of the people that checked out all the choices then buy or covet the Phoenix so so it doesn't matter if you got to check out the competition if you've already bought the best.
204  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 14, 2016, 08:46:13 am
That is our plan though we haven't been out in the Phoenix since we purchased the table. The ladies from Vermont said they used it inside (and I'm pretty sure outside too).

We intend to use it inside and outside when needed. So far we have not needed the outside table that we've been carrying, well, maybe once. The few times we didn't have a picnic table, we just winged it and lounged around in our chairs using other items as side tables for food. That said, we've only set up the Phoenix table two or three times since we purchased in May of 2013 - and that's while we were on board full time and working for a year and a half. One of the times we set it up was simply to demonstrate to people planning to buy a Phoenix.

We do have a custom, flip up "desk" that we used for our computers when we were working half time on board and needed to work inside. Even that is seldom used now that we've retired. I'm pretty sure we never put it up just for eating. We ate sitting in living room chairs at the old house and that's primarily how we eat when on the road... that or at the picnic table. I guess it's kind of funny that we do the "sit down" meals more when we are out in the woods than when we are inside a house.

205  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 11, 2016, 08:31:47 am
Maybe it is the color change. I was thinking the silver and white was the old style and the mosaic was the new one since the mosaic is the one on the Coleman site. However, the silver one did cost more on Amazon so maybe it is the replacement/new style... OR they could be getting rid of all of them. There are quite a few styles on Amazon including one with benches.
206  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dont make the same mistake and make PC mad on: October 10, 2016, 05:16:36 pm
We had trouble with our Atwood furnace also and had trouble getting warranty repairs. I had communicated with Kermit in advance so I knew that the different components are under warranty with the different companies. So I KNEW it should go through Atwood without my having to pay up front. After freezing for a while we gave up on the authorized repair center and drove south. We tried again with another Atwood service dealer with no luck. We finally waited it out and had Kermit handle it in Indiana when we got there. He had his local Atwood guy fix the unit and I sincerely hope he didn't get hit with any fees. It was definitely a warranty repair.

I know you are upset with Phoenix but you were, um, screwed by the Atwood service dealers. Since I had similar service issues at two separate dealers in two separate states and you had issues with two more dealers in more states, I'm going to lob out a guess that Atwood is not so good at paying their warranty claims so the dealers try to dodge it. Those Atwood dealers flat out lied to you so they could get paid right away. Atwood requires that they send in the bad part to get reimbursed for the warranty repair (I know due to many calls to Atwood). By the way, it may not be your motherboard - that is just the nice big expensive repair they claim it needs. Many times it is the igniter. Atwood seems to have some bad ones out there (though they seem to have bad motherboards also). If you keep having problems, try swapping that igniter. If it is still under warranty, get it from Atwood or verify which one won't void the warranty. I think my furnace warranty was two years so check that before messing with it if it goes out again. If they finally process your parts and determine the motherboard(s) was not bad, I'd suggest pressing Atwood for resolution since it is THEIR authorized service centers that pulled this off. Perhaps it will help prevent other people from getting the same run around.

We have come to realize that since an RV is many different parts from many different manufacturers, there tends to be a lot of finger pointing. Manufacturers try to put the blame and repair cost back on the RV builder. Phoenix packed all your warranty cards in that huge zipper case that came with your motor home. You sent those in to each manufacturer and they are responsible for warranty repairs for their product. ONLY if Phoenix installed something wrong or something else in the rig caused the problem, should Phoenix be liable. In our case, Atwood claimed we had insufficient propane pressure to run the furnace - this they diagnosed over the phone. After verifying that wasn't the issue, I was back on the phone with Atwood and back to finding a repair shop that could help us. The repair shop tested the propane flow and it was proven to be fine so Atwood could no longer deny it was their product that was faulty.

Kermit has helped us out repeatedly with issues that are not the fault or liability of Phoenix. I hope he is able to get Atwood to do the right thing by you.
207  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 10, 2016, 04:48:51 pm
We saw a really cool table at the Phoenix Travel Club Reunion this year (thank you Vermont crew!). It is actually two tables you can use independently or with connectors to make them into one square table or one long, narrow table. They have multi-part, screw together legs so you can adjust them to three different heights. All the parts snap inside and they fold up and connect together into a suitcase type thing that weighs about 12 pounds. It was so cool, we bought one. It will replace the adjustable outdoor table that Ron Dittmer recommended (which worked great when we needed it) as well as the wooden table that Phoenix supplies. Our new table weighs less than either of those and will work as a short coffee table, a dining table for our couch or camp chairs and as a counter height work area when we want to expand our kitchen space. We bought the one with the silver top but they also sell one with a mosaic top. We plan to store it either behind the driver seat for short runs or strapped in the wardrobe where the Phoenix table lived (the Phoenix table will hang out in storage so it can be reunited with the motor home if we ever sell it).
208  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Barbecue Grill suggestions when plumbed for gas on: October 10, 2016, 04:36:14 pm
We bought the same grill as Mike (PAX) on his suggestion and John loves it. We purchased the wrong regulator kit first and had to get the low pressure one so we could connect to the low pressure quick connect that Phoenix installs. While we like the grill, it does take a lot of space in our bin and we don't need that large of a surface most of the time. We hated the clean up until we bought the grill mats and now it's super easy.

I have been coveting Bill Golden's beloved grill, the CADAC Safari, but it has to run on canisters as it has a high pressure regulator. I found that CADAC makes a low pressure model of this grill but for now the shipping to the United States is prohibitive so I'm watching and waiting. It has numerous cook surfaces so it would be more versatile than the straight up grill that we now have. Everything nests so it is compact.

The best grill for you will be the one that fits the way you like to cook and that you use on a regular basis. Just another thing that is different for everyone.

I've also seen work-arounds on the internet where people have changed the fittings on Coleman grills to make them work on a low pressure line but I was not comfortable with playing with the gas fittings so we are sticking with those already built to work that way.
209  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Magne Shades on: October 07, 2016, 08:51:52 am
We also love the Magne shades. We put them on as part of our standard site set up. Used them continuously for that year and a half full time plus all other trips over the 3.5 years we've had the coach. They take away that "fish bowl" feeling you have when people walk past the front of the rig and happen to look in. During the day, the walkers see nothing but black screening while you see the walkers. We close the curtains as soon as the light from the inside is greater than the light outside and the see-through effect reverses. The only time we have a problem putting them on is if John jacks the front end up too much and then it is hard to reach. At 5'5" I can get them on and off fairly easily if the coach is sitting on the ground. The shades come with a fiberglass type stick that you can use to put them on and pull them off. There are pockets at the top of the windshield shade that the pole slips into so you can leverage it up if needed. We've never used the pole. It sits in the back wardrobe just in case. I can't remember if we paid extra for the case or not but we have a nice vinyl/leatherette case that the shades easily fit into. We pull the shades off (wet or dry), fold them and drop them into the case. They ride in the large outside bin ready to go back up when we stop again. No problems, no signs of wear and tear or sun damage. They work great and we're happy we spent the money on them. We bought directly from the Magne Shades people. Phoenix had a short time that they weren't selling them and we hit that gap so had to go direct. You can spend a bunch of extra money and get shades with designs or even custom photos printed on them. Ours are black. 
210  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Souvenir pin travel map on: October 06, 2016, 03:36:16 pm
What an awesome way to keep the memories. I'm sure there is a tale to tell with each of those pins and many fond memories to go with it. Thanks for sharing a really cool idea.
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