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226  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 10, 2016, 06:09:07 am
Drawers under the driver side bed? What happened to the Gray Water tank?
The grey and black tanks are in the back in the 2552. The driver's side bed has a narrow passage that is closed off between the outside wall and inside storage. The water lines, power lines, outside shower box etc. that connect the rig to the outside world run through that built in "conduit". The rest of the space is storage and Phoenix has a hinged bed board that you lift to access the space (with little hydraulic type lifter things to hold it up). The bass/woofer/whatever piece of the sound system takes up a piece of that space at the rear but the rest is all storage. We emulated someone here on the forum (Sue and Barry I think) and had cabinet doors installed so we can access the space without raising the bed board. My thought was that the drawers would keep me from using a lot of the space under that bed. I cram a lot in there, even using the space behind the sound system for seldom used items.

The passenger side bed has the fresh water tank, inverter, furnace and other "mechanicals" but no storage and no easy access hinged board (but you can take out the screws and get in there when needed).
227  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Side storage locks on: September 10, 2016, 05:54:29 am
I remember an older post about switching this type of lock and am wondering how they fare over time. I've had bike locks with similar number dials and the weather tends to make them bind and become stiff and difficult to work. I assume you can squirt grease or something in there. Anyone online have an older dial type lock that can give feedback? It would be nice to reduce the keys but not if I'm going to have to punch out a lock somewhere down the line.

Also, can the numbers be reset? We had to cut a dial type bicycle lock off the electric post once. We use it to secure our Progressive Industries electrical box to the post and apparently accidentally changed the number while it was still attached (or someone changed it for us). Murphy's Law helped out and it was one of the times we broke camp minutes before we were supposed to vacate the site... except we couldn't. We had to get out my Dremel and cut the lock off.
228  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 09, 2016, 05:46:01 am
I agree about the bed. The "bolsters" aren't big enough to lean on or make it a day bed and one of the reasons we picked the 2552 is to have a permanent bed that keeps the sheets on it (as well as that bathroom access Tom commented on. AND we can switch up where people sleep so one of us doesn't have to share a bed with "Great Aunt Martha". We also have a Sofa Butler tucked between bed and wall and slide our books and such down there too. We'd have to move all that out when the bed was closed in with bolsters. The new set up does not seem like the ideal "nap" configuration but I know it will appeal to those that need to sleep side by side or the taller people that want to sleep more diagonally. If the bolsters aren't attached, you could just leave them home and use the beds as twins. Since we full time when we're on the road, we'd be hard put to find a place to stash them. I'll have to remember to ask Kermit about it at the Phoenix Reunion in DC next week. He usually brings a 2910 or 3100 so maybe he'll have the new beds in there for us to check out. Nineteen rigs coming so if anyone out there is in the area and has been browsing the forum and thinking about a Phoenix, Kermit always hopes to sell his "model" unit. Give Earl a call to see what's coming and if it's what you want. Also, these rigs are coming in from every direction so you might be able to arrange to meet one of them on their way through your area. Several units will be up at the Hershey show about the same time and they try to sell those before the end of the show also. September is a good time to find a Phoenix on the east coast this year.

Back to the new designs: I was just commenting on how awesome the solid counter in the Phoenix is compared to other brands and now it's gone. I hope the options are still there to have things the old way. I don't see any drain holes in the cook top which is a plus and it is rounded so it might be easier to clean if you dump a lot while cooking (not admitting anything here, just saying.)

I also liked the fact they shifted the faucet to the corner of the sink a year or two back. I was jealous and was hoping the next logical step was putting in a sink with a corner drain so all the pipes and things tucked back behind and between the drawers and hot water tank and could be accessed by removing the drawers. I noticed the faucet moved back to center. I wonder if anyone had problems with it being to the side. It seemed to me it would be easier to fill a pot on the stove with the corner configuration as well as that plumbing access underneath.

Ah well, to each his own. I like what we have way better than the new models so we'll just have to take really good care of her so she lasts. That said, I'm sure that new bed will be a selling point for a lot of people.

229  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Side storage locks on: September 09, 2016, 05:18:30 am
Embrace getting old, Ron... Senior Discounts, extra perks AND people expect less of you. "Oh, sorry, missed that. Eyes aren't what they used to be, you know" or "OOPS, Senior Moment, totally forgot we talked about xx" (fill in OMG,-I don't-want-to-do-that-with-this-person activity.) AND the big one - retirement. "Oh, that sounds awful. Thank goodness I don't have to worry about that anymore, I'm retired Smile  "

Speaking of senior discounts. I don't know if I've mentioned that we finally figured out Outback Steakhouse gives a 15% discount to AARP members. You need your card and it doesn't cover alcohol. My brain clicked when we were dining there once and I realized every head in the place had "silver" hair... hmmmm. Checked for discounts and hit it. Can you say Bloomin' Onion?

G'day mates!

230  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Kicken' the tires on: September 06, 2016, 07:29:22 am
We walked the 2350 and 2552 at the Hershey RV show then added Phoenix to our list of 5 finalists to research further. We linked up with Tom Hanlon here on the forum and walked his 2552 twice (thank you Tom!) Tom made us stand in the shower, sit on the toilet, lay down on the beds, sit on the couch and so on. We went back to measure space and take pictures. We then drove to the factory and walked the assembly line asking questions about the installation of our cell phone booster, potential options we wanted, and so on. We ordered that same day. Note that when you visit the factory, you may not see the model you want but you do see every step of the assembly. They usually have a unit at each station from the bare frame with heat shields being installed (where we talked to the installer), through the plumbing and electric (where we talked with the electrician), on through four or five more stops where the cabinets, bath fixtures, TV's and sound systems, refrigerators, slides, etc. are installed. If the installer is on site, you can talk to him/her. We were able to tour several units in the finishing area that were being picked up in a day or so plus any trade-ins on the lot. Besides seeing many of the interior and exterior colors in person waiting pick up, we sat in the customer lounge and checked out the sample boards for each color scheme offered before selecting ours. I agree that you should tour the factory if at all possible and if you can find the unit you want, check it out. Earl might be able to help you. He contacted us directly to ask if wed show ours to a couple of potential buyers that wanted to see a 2552 in person and we were happy to oblige for one of them but were out of the area for the other so Tom jumped in and showed his rig. Most Phoenix owners are happy to show off their baby.
231  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Anyone Else With This Stove Related Problem? on: September 06, 2016, 07:08:42 am
When we order our new PC I am thinking of specing this style stove.  This should eliminate the burned knob problem.

The Phoenix stoves are inset so the matching counter covers can go over it. That is one of the awesome things everyone notices when they compare their rigs to ours. They are seriously jealous of our potential counter space. My suggestion is to make sure you would still be able to have the stove covers with the new configuration. Many rigs have metal caps that fold down over the stoves. The feedback I've had is the caps rattle, get in the way and are downright ugly. Our counter is gorgeous and multi-functional. We would never go the other way.
232  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: September 06, 2016, 07:00:17 am
Suggestion - call each park directly and ask if they have first come, first served sites. Many parks hold a few sites out of the reservation system so they can accommodate people passing through. If you can't get in the day of arrival, you may be able to dry camp somewhere then roll in first thing in the morning to claim a site. Once in, they usually let you stay. I know it's dicey and you may not get in but we haven't missed yet. Now if it is 100 degrees out and nighttime temps are in the 80's, you might want to pay more and guarantee hook ups or plan to run your generator overnight in the Walmart parking lot so you don't bake.
233  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Rear Compartment Lined With Outdoor Fabric on: September 06, 2016, 06:54:08 am
Very nice! Ron, it isn't a matter of having nothing else to do, it's a matter of doing what you like and enjoy... and that which doesn't stress you out. For you, these little upgrades and fixes may not seem like a lot but they make you happy. What else can you ask for?
234  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Go ZEN on: September 02, 2016, 07:13:05 am
I want to share my newest addiction/obsession. It is called Zentangle. You can search the internet and find all kinds of patterns and information about it. Basically it is abstract drawing using patterns. Most of the patterns are a few simple strokes - a line, a circle, an ess curve, etc. ANYONE can do it. If you can write your name, you can tangle. Since it is abstract, there are no errors. Whatever your drew is what it is meant to be. At the most basic all you need is a pen, pencil, paper and some patterns. I've gone much farther and put together a binder with patterns I like and am using Pigma Micron pens and occasionally little paper artist tiles from Amazon. I also put together a pencil pouch that holds a small sketch book, a couple pens, pencil, smudge stick, and a few tiles so I can tangle while waiting for appointments and such (usually waiting to pick up the granddaughter).

It is a great hobby for on the road as it doesn't take much space. I'm hoping to introduce people to it along the way when we travel again and possibly use it as a value added type thing when we host. It is very relaxing, which is where the ZEN part comes in. You focus on drawing that line, then the next line, then the next line and you zone out. Besides being fun, it is used for therapy and to help people focus. I like it a lot. The Zentangle method uses 3.5 x 3.5 inch tiles and random designs so there is no extra planning or thinking. Anything bigger than that is Zentangle Inspired Art which is often planned out to some degree. I have attached a few pictures of my creations to give you an idea.

Check it out and try tangling!
A few websites are and - they both have links that will get you to many more sites... that link to more sites... that link to more sites... like I said, my new obsession.
235  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Pro 1800 Inverter Problem on: September 02, 2016, 06:09:34 am
I think we need to formalize the naming convention of the component parts of Velcro. I use Posicro for the hook side and Negacro for the loop side.

JFCaramagno - You have messed with my head with those names. They sound like little superheros. Now every time I see velcro, images of tiny little dudes in spandex will flash through my brain.

Tom - thanks for the vote for sanity. I'm good with less work. I did take that bed board off once to sand and finish it to avoid any splinters so I know I could do it again if needed.
236  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Hershey RV Show on: September 01, 2016, 06:53:56 am
Just a thought - I don't know when your trip is but September 14-18 is the Hershey RV show with travel/set up days on each end as well as what must be a crazy rush to get units ready for the show and the Intervec Phoenix Reunion/Rally is September 11-15 (with at least one travel day on each end). Earl and Kyle are usually at the Hershey show and Kermit comes to the rally for at least a few days. You don't want to hit the factory when they are all gone. Bobby will be there to show you the rigs and assembly line and he is awesome but your build questions and requests would need to go to Earl. In addition to that, a good many rigs will have gone out with them. Kermit brings a beautiful new rig to the rally and Earl takes at least 4 different models to Hershey.

237  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Pro 1800 Inverter Problem on: September 01, 2016, 06:42:42 am
Hmm, that's another do it yourself project we may pay Phoenix to do - convert the passenger side bed in our 2552 to lift like the driver's side does so we can access those components stashed under there. I figure they don't want people messing with them but I can be well behaved with that. I'd just like to be able to see them, test them and resecure them when necessary... and eventually go for that pure sine wave inverter to protect phones and such.
238  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: September 01, 2016, 06:37:11 am
Ron, we have one key for the Ford cab doors/ignition and one key for the house latch/deadbolt. Then one key for one bin and a separate key for the other bins. Then we have the hitch pins (three locking pins but one key for all), two for the locking bike rack (one locks the hitch, one locks the bikes on) and one for the hard shell car top carrier. Then one for the Subaru, the house, etc. The keys drive me nuts so I bought wire key rings for the rig keys and put them on separate rings in the order from the front of the RV to the rearmost item. That worked well until John unscrewed his ring and dropped all those keys. Now his ring is a jumble and mine is in order so I have to figure out which set I have before I start matching locks.

I love the idea of the electronic lock. We are staying at my son's house and he has one on the front door. It is awesome. We need keys for the car but other than that we don't carry the things. You do have to make sure you change out the battery before it dies. The battery lasts a long time so we tend to forget where we stashed the actual key for the lock. One of these days we're going to get locked out due to dead battery. You can change the code whenever desired on the electronic lock so it can be reset after giving out to friends or the dog walker. We can give the code over the phone and people can get in then we change it again for security. Very nice. Some of the new ones have "one time" use codes to give to service people or whatever. You can reset those also.

We will probably have one on the rig someday... once we figure out how the do-it-yourself portion of the install... or once we visit Phoenix and they do it for us. We are so bad at fix it stuff.
239  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV Cover for 28 foot 2552 on: August 27, 2016, 10:28:37 am
I live in Cleveland, OH. Have never seen the sun.  Smile

I hear ya! I grew up on the east side of Cleveland and never saw the sun. I joked about it with John and he didn't believe me until we drove up into Ohio - we hit full cloud cover at the state line and stayed in it throughout the visit. As we drove home we exclaimed "Look, blue sky" and directly under that cloud edge was a sign that said "Welcome to Pennsylvania"
240  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: August 27, 2016, 10:25:47 am
Ron, are you sure the slide out is different in the 2350 and 2552? I though the front portion was identical in these two models. The difference in the models being the bedroom and bath/the area back from the partition door.
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