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376  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HWH Levelers or 50 Amp upgrade? on: October 11, 2013, 07:37:36 am
This is totally personal opinion and we have the 2552 so it isn't exactly the same as finding level with the 2350 but I would totally vote for the levelers. We have been full time for a month and a half and have camped everywhere from paved pads to crooked parking lots to mud holes with "gravel pads" (that's a generous description). We haven't even hit the National Forest sites yet. We love our levelers. They won't get you level in every situation all by themselves but they sure get you there most of the time with minimal pain and effort. We watch other campers setting up and leveling and repeatedly say how happy we are that we don't have to do that. I watched a couple last night setting up a travel trailer on a questionable gravel pad. The brave wife stood in the rain in ankle deep water and mud in the dark holding the flashlight so hubby could back it in. They then spent a good 20 minutes trying to level her. I've seen fancy plastic blocks, huge wooden blocks (where do they carry all that?) and what looks like stacked firewood, all in an effort to get somewhat level, often still sitting at a tilt. We pull in to the most level section of ground we can get, set out the jack pads if we are on soft ground, then drop the jacks and level... all in minutes.

As for the 50 amp, we have had tripped the power a few times due to turning on the microwave while we have the AC on. We've pretty much learned to turn the AC to fan only, nuke the food, then turn the AC back on. We don't usually microwave for an extended time so it works. We don't know if you can use the convection part of the stove with the AC on when running 30 amps. Maybe someone else will weigh in with the benefits of 50 amps. I know some get it and add a second AC unit but I think that would be overkill in the 2350 unless you plan to camp REALLY hot areas for extended time.

So, that's my two cents worth. Hope it helps. Enjoy your factory tour and your new PC. We've had a few break in problems but LOVE ours.
377  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers? on: October 09, 2013, 05:20:49 pm
We found TWO. We pulled into a campsite near Staunton VA and there was a Phoenix right up front. We did our walk about and found the owner - none other than FrecklesTweety and friend on their way to the Good Sam rally. She rolled south this morning and we headed out to tour the area. As we headed back to camp we saw another Phoenix heading north on 81. We are pretty sure it wasn't FrecklesTweety as there was no road and it was going the wrong way to be her though it was similar in color. So hi to whomever you are.
378  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Electrical Schematics for PC's power systems. on: October 07, 2013, 01:22:44 pm
WOW!!!! You are awesome! A big helpful to you.
379  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Hanging with the Big Dogs on: October 06, 2013, 04:00:22 pm
Ron, It's definitely a difference. We drove without a toad for a while since we had to wait for the fabrication of our tow plate. We could fit in a double head to head parking space in many places. Not a chance now. We have to be very careful which gas station we pull into because we need to be able to pull back out... hopefully without unhooking the toad. We've had a few close calls but haven't had to drop her yet. We now park at the back of big store or mall parking lots across multiple parking spaces and hope that nobody parks directly in front us thereby making it impossible to pull forward and out. AND we now hang with the big dogs at those rest areas. We seem to be in the minority about the noise from the semi generators. We turn on our inside fans and snooze right out. We've only slept a few hours at a rest area with semis but have spent several nights at Walmart tucked right in with the trucks and slept right through.
380  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Hanging with the Big Dogs on: October 05, 2013, 06:22:25 am
Tom, you forget we have a toad now. PC + hitch + toad + bike rack is looooong. Not that much extra room in those trucker spaces. (PC is 27.5' model 2552, tow bars add maybe 3', toad is 15' Subaru Forester, bike rack sticks out almost 3 feet). I'll try to remember to put a tape measure along her when we hook up again on Monday but from the measurements I find online for the products, it looks like we are about 48' long. Semi's are around 75-100' long so we could maybe get two of our setups in there.

So, grab your lady love and guard dog and hit the road and we'll share those parking spaces.
381  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Potato Creek State Park, IN on: October 03, 2013, 01:30:56 pm
If anyone is ever stranded in Indiana (or just passing through), we recommend staying at Potato Creek State Park. It is about 20 miles south of Mishawaka where Jordan Ford is located and about maybe 30-40 miles from the Phoenix USA factory. They do recommend reservations and we were not able to get in over the weekend but there were plenty of sites during the week (early/mid Sept). We did have to change sites since the older loops have two sites sharing one electric post and the sites are large. We needed at least a 50' cord to use those sites and didn't have one yet (we do now). The one picture of our campsite shows almost the whole site. It was huge. They have a beautiful lake where you can swim, fish, boat and generally hang out. It is open year round but winter campers have to stay in the horseman's loop. We didn't check that one out. They have woods, prairie, wetlands, lake, streams, etc. They have a little nature center and miles of paved bike trails as well as unpaved, beginner level, mountain bike trails. Nice park.
382  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Hanging with the Big Dogs on: October 03, 2013, 01:06:01 pm
This is at a rest area in Ohio... or Pennsylvania. We were struck by the contrast as we came out of the building and saw our PC tucked in with the big rigs. It looks like we washed her in hot water and she shrunk!
383  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inverter on: October 03, 2013, 09:10:07 am
Tom is correct. Model years 2007 and 2008 (and only those years) have the Tripp-Lite Inverter that Ron Dittmer is a pro on. I thought the converter fan noise was the same for all years but I could be wrong about that. Ron has it all down pat for the 2007 units.
384  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inverter on: October 03, 2013, 05:47:30 am
Kermit spoke about inverters/converters at the PC Rally. I made a few notes and verified their accuracy with him prior to posting. Here's what I've got:

Phoenix Converter / Inverter Clarification

-   Phoenix originally told people to leave their inverter on all the time. Now they recommend that you leave it off unless you need it. If you are ALWAYS running off shore power, you NEVER need the inverter. It is just along for the ride. You only need the inverter if you are pulling power from your house batteries.
-   The CONVERTER converts the A/C 110 shore power to 12 Volt to power your lights, fans, slide, awning, step, etc. If you can turn it on without plugging in to shore power, the power is coming from your batteries.
-   The INVERTER inverts the 12 Volt power from your batteries to supply A/C 110 power to your electrical outlets, television, etc.
-   In the 2551 and 2552 both the inverter and converter are located under the passenger side bed. Both have fans that run when the unit needs to cool down. This can happen even if they are not actively being used. The converter is the lower section of the metal distribution panel (brown panel with the fuses) on the side of the bed and that is the fan that most people hear running at random times.
385  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 25, 2013, 07:23:26 pm
How about having John do the glass thing while you drive and take pictures for us? Grin

It's a plan. I'll post them when I get them.
386  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: September 25, 2013, 07:16:22 pm
Ron, I believe you are right and this mat might be found about the factory installed aspect. I had actually requested something like this when we ordered the PC but Stuart said the carpet was already in there and it would be $500 to tear it out and put in a mat. We skipped that option... and didn't totally buy the story that Phoenix bought the chassis with our color of carpet already in the cab.

I figured Ford would have it but didn't find it online. Hitting a local Ford parts dealer should net one.
387  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Macerator helper on: September 25, 2013, 09:22:50 am

Rather than dig out my regular hose, I use a 10 foot section of flat hose with couplers on the ends.  This makes things simpler as you can see in this photo.

This would be awesome and will assist in the space issues we have in the back cabinet with all the hoses and electrical cords but I can't find a 10' flat hose. Do you remember where you got yours?
388  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: September 25, 2013, 09:14:43 am
If by doghouse you mean the engine cowling/console thingy, I asked Jordon Ford if they could add insulation there and they said no. They said there is insulation in there with a metallic/reflective covering between the insulation and engine but there isn't enough clearance to put in MORE insulation. MAYBE they can remove what is there and put in better insulation. If so, let us know because anything that cuts that heat would be worth it. Besides the floor heat our CD's get really hot to the touch even when the player isn't on. That heat is radiating right up through the dash. Now it was actually welcome the other day when it dropped to the low 40s overnight. We toasted up quickly when we started driving but the majority of the time we don't plan to be playing in the cold so less heat is best.
389  Main Forum / General Discussion / Rubber Floor Mat on: September 24, 2013, 09:36:43 pm
The rubber floor mat was discussed in at least two different posts so I'm giving it its own spot. I am attaching pictures of the mat that Phoenix put in for us in the hope that it would soften the vibration sound we were getting. It does seem to reduce some of the engine noise (not the vibration problem, but other normal noise) and it definitely helps insulate the floor to reduce the heat issue. This is a Ford product and the dealer knew right off what I was asking about and offered to look it up. It has a 1/4 to 1/2 inch of insulation under most of it. The mat tapers to the edges and around connections so the thickness varies. I could not find it online but I may not be using the right terms. I have attached pictures of it in the rig after a long trip and before cleaning. Please forgive the dirt as I wanted to take the pictures and post while I was remembering to do it.

The last shot shows what happens when you take pictures instead of feeding the queen kamping kitty. That isn't a vicious face, that mid-meooooowwwwwwwwww.
390  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 24, 2013, 05:50:10 pm
OK, I appreciate all the suggestions BUT: Ron - I am not sticking my head in the engine compartment with a vacuum cleaner hose... and Tom - I am not crawling around the floor with a drinking glass. I have no doubt photos of either of those endeavors would wind up on this forum for the amusement of all. As for the stethoscope... John would likely just want to play doctor and while it would surely be fun, we'd get nowhere with the engine noise.

I'm going to put my money on Mark and his mechanic. If they figure it out, he'll post it here and we'll see if we have the same thing. AND we plan to be wandering in Florida a few months from now and we sure as heck would be willing to drive to "Podunkville" if that's what it takes to get it fixed.

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