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61  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Holding tanks how does everyone deal with the whole size of the holding tanks. on: February 02, 2017, 07:20:52 am
Regarding the spaghetti comment, we carry a large scraper to clean plates and pans. After scraping the solids into the trash can, we use our used paper napkins to wipe the rest of the stuff off and trash those, THEN we go to the foaming Dawn dish soap and rinse water running into a tub trug that then gets dumped down the toilet. One caveat, you do have to run some water down the sink drain on occasion or it gets stinky so I'll do the soapy water down there every so often.

Regarding keeping both tanks open... if your tanks get full that stuff is coming up your shower drain... just saying.
62  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: back up camera on: February 02, 2017, 07:14:14 am
We tried the open window with (loud) voice commands, we tried the walkie-talkies, and we watched other people yelling and fighting as they backed into their sites. We made a deal that we would NOT entertain the campground and we have developed hand signals. John DOES NOT back up unless he has eye contact with me in his mirror. When he loses sight of me, he brakes and waits (my fault, I move out of view). Then he follows my hand signals exactly and immediately (This means hitting those brakes instantly if I give the "stop" signal). We've gotten really good at it and have maneuvered silently into some really tough spots (seriously, how many sites need three hard turns while backing between trees and under branches... in the middle of the night?) It works for us. I won't say we have NEVER had conversations that entertain other campers but most of the time they don't even know we've rolled unless they are watching at the right moment.

We also NEVER let anyone else direct us in. If they insist (and some have), I stand beside them and John follows me, not them. They might not like it but we've seen helpful camp hosts back people into tree branches and off the camping pad. We know our rig and we know where we want to sit in a site so we are the best people to direct her in.
63  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Beware the Emergency Window on: January 28, 2017, 01:47:01 pm
Dave, I've been told that glass is more likely to shatter when it is cold. I had to replace a sliding glass door on a rental house once and the tech said it was due to a gentle impact on very cold glass. The tenant was running a day care out of the house so I wasn't convinced it didn't get clocked hard with something but the repair guy said it happens a lot in the winter. It's possible you hit one of the Bermuda Triangle trifectas and combined flawed glass with cold weather and an unusual impact or torque and away it went. I haven't heard of anyone else's emergency window shattering on them.
64  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tip On Battery Care on: January 27, 2017, 08:57:40 am
Walmart sells the red goo. They have packages with just goo, just felt type rings and a combo pack - which is what we bought. You spray the goo, put the rings on, spray the goo and done. I'm sure it doesn't last forever but the little spray bottle of goo is small so we carry it along.
65  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: euro chairs on: January 25, 2017, 08:15:11 am
I haven't had a couch with a foot rest that comes up on its own so I can't truly compare but I have found that the Phoenix double reclining couch works well for us. You do have to pull it out yourself and then recline the couch to make a bed but I can partially recline the couch to keep my head raised and still have the foot rest fully out to support my feet. I don't notice the little gap this leaves between couch seat and footrest while sleeping. My weight doesn't rest in that spot. I also like to pull out the foot rest then push it back in to touch the slightly reclined couch for lounge lizard time. I don't lock it out, just lift it up and lock into the upright position then slide it back toward the couch. I find this gives me the chair recliner type setup without blocking as much of the floor space. John can easily move through and around the living room and I have a comfy lounge spot. I don't know how the one piece couches would work in that situation.
66  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A measurment needed! on: January 24, 2017, 08:40:30 am
I would definitely pad the edge of the deck. I've also seen garage helps where they hang a tennis ball so that it touches the front window when you have gone as far as you should. You could probably hang one a joist or two back on the deck. CAREFULLY park the rig where you want it under the deck then hang the tennis ball so it touches the front window of the rig a bit sooner than the OOPS-should-have-stopped-point. In theory you would pull in slowly, the tennis ball would contact the glass and you would stop, perfectly positioned without ever touching the deck.
67  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Radio wiring and control on: January 23, 2017, 07:49:02 am
first click on the ignition is auxiliary and activates power to your radio, back up monitor and more. The charging outlets work with the ignition totally off. Check your Ford manual. It should explain.
68  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Winterizing your Motorhome - factory video on: January 23, 2017, 07:46:03 am
I agree with Tom. Look where the water pump is. I've never heard of a Phoenix without the valve and clear hose to siphon the pink stuff into your lines. It doesn't have a huge valve handle like the one on your link but it is there. If the hose is too short, buy a new one at the fish store or hardware store. We set something under the jug of pink stuff to raise it off the floor and the hose reaches to the bottom of the jug. It can be done solo but is easier if one holds the jug and hose and the other plays with faucets (including outside shower and valves for macerator. It takes minutes to do the whole procedure - Drain the hot water heater then BYPASS it. You don't need the pink stuff in there.   

If you got the manuals with your new-to-you rig, check for the one for the water pump. They have instructions there for winterizing also.
69  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2351 Corner Bed Opening Windows on: January 21, 2017, 09:43:14 am
I'm not sure if this is the exact kit we bought back in 2013 but here is a similar upgrade kit http://www.adventurerv.net/fantastic-vent-upgrade-kit-6600-wireless-remote-p-5257.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAqozEBRDJrPem0fPKtX0SJAD5sAyH6wbKa1GZzXYNa0AZmDPSS468yG2OheGeTS2ASo_AJRoCxFnw_wcB&utm_campaign=partsfeed_ppc&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=Froogle . We had it shipped to the factory and they installed it before we picked up the RV. They had a deuce of a time getting it up there (the steps are laid out in the manual and customer service at Fantastic Fans can help over the phone). Our upgrade doesn't have the wall cradle so we set the remote wherever and will probably put it in a Command bin at some point. What you need to achieve with an upgrade or fan is going to depend on what you have already. It would be easier to upgrade to the better fan when ordering a Phoenix instead of them installing their standard Fantastic Fan then struggling to upgrade. If you have an existing fan, you can check what model you have and what level of whistles and bells you want and upgrade accordingly.

Our upgrade bought us that air in/out, automatic closing in the rain (it reopens and turns back on once it dries out), and the remote control with temperature setting which we placed at people level. We upgraded because we had a cat on board and wanted to moderate the temps in the rig without getting rain in. We were often out for the day or in parking lots while shopping, etc. and wanted to keep the rig as comfortable as we could while on battery power. We also have the Fantastic vents that stick up a good bit (not higher than the AC unit) but allow the vent to open pretty much all the way. They are not as sleek looking as the MaxxAir but they work great. Our cat is gone but we still use the fan to keep the rig comfortable when we are out. You just push the button the remote and walk out the door.
70  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2351 Corner Bed Opening Windows on: January 20, 2017, 06:28:14 am
 I read somewhere (maybe the Fantastic Fan manual) that the best way to control your air flow when using the fan(s) is to open only those windows near you (living room while chilling there, bedroom at night) and only open part way. This forces a decent volume of air to be pulled in to flow over you and cool you. Of course, if it is beautiful weather and you aren't sweating away in a dead calm, the fans aren't needed at all. We open the windows and fan vents and let the air do it's thing.

We also (inadvertently but advantageously) purchased a Fantastic Fan kit that closes in the rain AND has a switch to change from pulling air out to pulling air in. I knew I was buying the rain thing but not the in/out thing. The "in" function gives a really nice air flow wafting down from the ceiling. When needed, we turn the bath fan on low (pulls out) and the living room fan set to draw in and we can "flush" the air through the rig fairly quickly. We did not do the fan in the bedroom. I wanted fewer roof openings and space for future solar panels.
71  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Our Oops discovery on: January 17, 2017, 06:50:22 am
We learned that lesson shortly after getting the Phoenix. We were showing it off to family and someone left the shower door open then closed the bathroom door. The two locked together at the wall. We are lucky that we have jacks. Hold the bathroom door all the way open when the partner lifts the front and driver's side of the rig and, VOILA, gravity swings the shower door back enough to get in and lock the shower. You can also use a very small child. They have to be small enough to fit through the gap but big enough to follow directions. You might have to borrow one of those. If only you could train the cat.

We traveled with a cat who loved her Drinkwell fountain at the old house but we wouldn't take that huge thing on the road. We SWORE we would . NOT . buy . a . fountain . for . the . cat... So, here's a link to the fountain that we bought that works really well in the Phoenix https://smile.amazon.com/Pioneer-Pet-Stainless-Fountain-Raindrop/dp/B0037NKDSG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1484652450&sr=1-4&keywords=pet+fountain. It sat against the short wall in front of the stove and plugged in to the outlet for the passenger bed. It is short enough that cabinets and drawers open above it. The cat can drink from the open reservoir or the sliding water or the bubbler. It is not overly loud and has a pleasant sound. We put a little rectangle of rubber backed carpet under it to keep her from licking it across the floor. We dumped and stored it for travel.

We also had a spill free pet bowl that has velcro on the bottom so it stuck to that little carpet https://smile.amazon.com/Pow-Products-Road-Refresher-Bowl/dp/B001GULX04/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1484653234&sr=1-1&keywords=road+refresher+water+bowl This bowl was used in the same place in the rig during travel and on the floor in the back seat of the car when the cat rode with us there.

The carpet was recommended by Ron Ditmer for our interior step. Home Depot has it on a big roll and sells it by the foot. It is ribbed gray on top and black rubber on the bottom. We had it on our interior step, under the cat bowl and under our trash can. It didn't stop the can from falling over on hard turns but it did stop it from sliding up to visit us in the cab on downhill drives or quick stops.  

Enjoy travelling with your cats. Our senior kitty adapted quickly and was truly the Camper House Queen. Her servants were ever at her beck and call.



72  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 13, 2017, 07:37:15 am
Hi CKK - WELCOME!!

We did the same as Polish Prince and rented a "bucket of bolts" for two weeks to see if we could live in the space (no problem) and to figure out what modifications we wanted when we ordered a rig. It was incredibly helpful for us as people that had never used an RV.

We are lifetime campers, Boy Scout Leaders for 18 years, hikers, backpackers, rafters and so on. Our "big" tent was a 7x7 Coleman dome. Our Phoenix was a HUGE step up and we never want to go back on any regular basis. We full timed for a year and a half in our 2552 and it's perfect for us. We tow a standard shift, AWD Subaru Forester and have bikes on a SwingDaddy rack on the back of that. We do carry extra gear in the Subaru and the car top carrier but most people don't need backpacks and backpack gear, winter clothes and river clothes and grandchild clothes and a full office set up and so on. We worked half time from the road for the first year out. If we did normal a little better, we wouldn't need all that and are actually cutting some of it back now. We are temporarily stuck in Maryland and are selling off everything from our stick and brick house because we are so happy with our new life, we don't plan to settle down until we can't RV anymore.

I also spent years reading, researching and dreaming and thought this forum couldn't be true and that Ron had to be a paid company shill - I mean, seriously, who is that enthusiastic about their rig? Well, Ron is, and now I am and many others that we have met in person. Phoenix pretty much leaves this forum alone. I have seen one posting pulled. It was a negative posting on a Sales Rep that had left. While I agreed with the sentiment, if I was in charge of the forum I would have pulled it also to avoid a potential slander lawsuit. There are some things you can't leave online for legal reasons. I can't guarantee they haven't pulled other posts but if they were cutting all the bad comments, they would have taken down some of mine on the problems we had the first year. We had a lot of problems but it was a weird Bermuda Triangle deal where quite a few defective components merged into one motor home - ours. I should say that this is my standard run of luck. The only Phoenix problem was our leaky slide and even that was more a design issue on a new style they were using and not their install. Phoenix bent over backwards and went above and beyond to fix it for us. They also stood behind us for all the repairs that were under other manufacturer's warranties. This is also why we purchased new. We didn't have your background on towing and trailers and portable living space and we are seriously not fix-it people so we wanted full warranty on everything to get us past the clueless newbie status (it took us a while but we made it... mostly). Kyle will occasionally pop onto the forum if we ask for his input and Amy, the webmistress keeps an eye on it but doesn't interfere. It's not Kermit's thing.

I had the same concerns about Kermit's longevity when we ordered the rig. I figure he might be old enough to hit Social Security but definitely isn't in geezer mode. I worried over the small business aspect and finally decided there are no guarantees in life. Big RV manufacturers went belly up some years back. Dealers went under. Solid companies ceased to exist. Little Phoenix survived and eventually thrived. I have come to realize that when Kermit is not available, others in the company have the same dedication to taking care of the owners. I don't know if they have a formally designated "heir" but they have several other people there that manage operations and keep things running on an even keel.

Phoenix knew we were going full time when we bought the rig and had no concern about warranties. Due to my Bermuda Triangle luck, I can attest to the fact that they stand behind their product 100%. Our full time status was never an issue. And as an extra feather in their cap, our stupid questions were never an issue either. The forum usually took care of us on that but I did hit Kermit and Bobby with a few goodies and they treated me like I had a brain and didn't just ask something that dumb.

If you want to correspond or talk directly, send a personal message and I'll get you my contact info.
73  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Stripped down PC on: January 13, 2017, 06:53:12 am
Seriously Mike! Give up my toilet? At my age? Go back to wandering in the dark to pee in the middle of the night... or drop trou in the snow and wind... sometimes twice in one night??? Build a fire or light a stove to make my coffee???

Noooooo! You have struck fear into my heart. I am not giving up my luxurious Phoenix with all the simple push button functions unless I absolutely have to. Home is where the heart is and my heart is definitely in my Phoenix even when I'm not in her. And that includes my bathroom!
74  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Radio wiring and control on: January 13, 2017, 06:46:52 am
I suspect the resistance to changing the wiring in the Ford cutaway has to do with Ford warranties. If Phoenix messes with the Ford parts, the finger pointing can start and Ford may deny future warranty claims by stating that Phoenix did something that caused this, then that, then the other thing and it's not their problem anymore. This is not an attempt to ding Ford. It's the way it works. Especially with an RV.

Think of all the things that interact with that Ford wiring harness. I'd hate to have Ford question every item that might go wrong.

I can understand the concern but have some difficulty reconciling it with the standard option of replacing the radio with the gps/monitor/radio. i believe that's a PC installed option not a Ford one.

Swapping radio systems is more of a plug and play and the Ford is pre-wired for that. Swapping power sources is a different animal.
75  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Radio wiring and control on: January 12, 2017, 07:17:54 am
I suspect the resistance to changing the wiring in the Ford cutaway has to do with Ford warranties. If Phoenix messes with the Ford parts, the finger pointing can start and Ford may deny future warranty claims by stating that Phoenix did something that caused this, then that, then the other thing and it's not their problem anymore. This is not an attempt to ding Ford. It's the way it works. Especially with an RV.

We have had several warranty issues with systems that are not built by Phoenix and most of them tried to first dump the repair on the Phoenix when it was 100% their equipment. Once it is determined that Phoenix installed things correctly (which in every case they did), we fought the claim back to the manufacturer. If Phoenix had modified these items, they would not be covered under the original manufacturer's warranty.

Think of all the things that interact with that Ford wiring harness. I'd hate to have Ford question every item that might go wrong.
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