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76  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: LED light problems on: November 05, 2016, 11:15:11 am
I haven't replaced the bulb yet but I'm pretty sure you can do so. They are those snap in things, not screw in. Several people on the forum have replaced bulbs, some with LED equivalent.
77  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2100 Pictures on: November 05, 2016, 11:09:15 am
Awesome, we will give that a go. I've got the Rustoleum and some product that the Home Depot guy said works as a base coat on metal and converts the rust to something as part of the base coat. I think I'll go with tried and true and get the Chassis Saver instead. I'll still wire brush first to get loose crud off. Thanks for the info.
78  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2100 Pictures on: November 04, 2016, 11:53:38 am
We picked up our 2552 in May 2013. It has been outside ever since. It gets high humidity and over 100 degree summer days and nasty ice and snow and the occasional below freezing winter nights. We've camped across the country north to south and east to west so it's been in just about every climate area of the lower 48. We were full time for a year and a half with a good bit of camping the rest of the time. The full body paint looks new except a few spots we dinked. It is automotive paint and holds up as such. Our car is out there right with it, is the same age, and looks just as good.

The Diamond Shield on the Phoenix is just starting to show a touch of brown under some spots along the edges but John tends to be exuberant during vehicle washing so he may have loosened the edge. I don't see any areas affected by bugs. My guess is random brown spots in the main sheet of Diamond Shield would be due to tiny nicks from road debris that allow the water to penetrate and then eventually mold.

Our thermal windows have experienced all those temperature changes and have bounced down many uneven roads and we have no fogging so far.

We take moderate care of the RV and with a quick clean up it looks almost as good as the day we bought it. There are a few dinks inside and out that we put there but other than that, she has held up beautifully. My biggest challenge is rust and crud on the tow bar and jacks but we didn't clean those as much as we should have. This is the first year we've had to touch up the caulk on the roof and it took John less than an hour to strip it, clean it and recaulk one seam where the cap joins the roof. We didn't have leaks but our inspection showed some possible loose edges so we cleaned and caulked it. 
79  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2100 Pictures on: November 02, 2016, 08:45:49 pm
The colors page will get you there - I suggest comparing the lower body paint shown under the color "graystone" - that looks to be a 2100 or 2400. And for the full body paint on a shorter rig, look at the color "toast" which I believe shows full body paint on a 2350 (longer than the 2100 but as close you get on that page. 

Besides the beauty of the full body paint, you get an easy care exterior with automotive paint instead of the gel coat. Many, many owners have the lower body paint and are happy with it. It requires different care so you just have to plan accordingly. Choose what is right for you.

80  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Re. Sandyc Replacing Norcold w. Dometic, & Options on: November 02, 2016, 10:26:18 am
The electrical power control/surge suppressor can be hard wired into the rig either by the manufacturer or a very knowledgeable and capable owner OR purchased as a separate, portable unit. We use the Progressive Industries portable 30 amp unit and love it. It has saved us from some very badly wired or faulty campground connections. There are several different brands and I haven't reviewed them lately but one selling point on the Progressive I liked is the replaceable parts - not having to replace the whole unit - if something zaps it and fries it. 

It is an expensive item so we use a cable and lock to fasten it to the post when possible.

Several owners on the forum have a unit hardwired in their Phoenix.
81  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 28, 2016, 08:06:48 am
Ron, question on the pedals. I haven't driven in a few months but drove our Phoenix extensively before, however, I've never been conscious of any "skew" to the pedals or need to angle my legs while driving. I suspect there was a redesign somewhere between your 2007 and our 2013.  Hopefully some other owners of recent models can weigh in with thoughts on this.

My main spot is the passenger/navigator seat and I don't like the way the hump pushes in on that side. It doesn't really twist my body buy my left leg is definitely restricted from moving left. Since it is a Ford thing, it is going to be in all brands that use the Ford chassis. That said, we are accustomed to it and are both pretty comfortable in either side of the cockpit. It takes a little work to get up and out to the back but sliding the seat back before making the effort helps a lot. I usually don't bother and just shift over and through.

82  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Add Windows to Diagonal Area Behind Driver & Passenger Doors? on: October 20, 2016, 07:32:43 am
A couple at the Intervec-Phoenix Travel Club Reunion in DC this year had a window on the "wing" wall on the passenger side. They had a captain's chair or Euro chair in front of it so they said it didn't really open up the inside that much. They bought the unit used and were not aware that the window might not have been installed by the manufacturer. After I mentioned it, they said they had noticed the gasket on the window did not fit as well as all the other windows so it was probably an after market addition.

You would need a custom window covering as well or the window would be like a big fish tank viewing port after dark.

I believe there is a lot more going on in that wing wall on the driver's side so it could be a much more difficult modification.
83  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Seeking Recommendations For A Compact Inside 110V Heater on: October 17, 2016, 10:02:10 am
Ron, I also checked out the Pelonis and read numerous reviews but haven't purchased yet. These small ceramic heaters definitely get the higher ranking and satisfaction level. I don't know how true this is but in the reviews several people mentioned that the design had changed and they were no longer as happy with the new models (looks like that planned obsolescence thing again - or overzealous cost reduction). People were looking for the older model Pelonis heaters to get the lifetime reliability and superior performance they were known for. I did that for a while but then just started avoiding cold places.

When we were stuck in evil cold with a broken furnace a few years ago, we resorted to using two small electric heaters but neither was so overly remarkable to list here. They kept us from freezing but warm and cozy we were not. Of course we were in an ice covered RV in a barren campground with wind and snow whistling around us. Not our favorite experience. 
84  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Kitchen Mirror on: October 17, 2016, 09:49:29 am
If you cook, you do not want paper towels or spices over the stove. I purchased the magnetic paper towel holder recommended by another forum user (which they loved as it worked for them). I popped it right up there under the microwave and turned on the stove - the whoosh of hot air lifted the end of the paper towels, they unrolled toward the flames and I was grabbing and smacking and turning the stove off as quickly as possible. We returned the magnetic holder and bought an over the cabinet door one that hangs on our pantry and holds the towels vertically similar to this one I put felt pads on it where it touches wood to prevent marring.

Spices should never be stored near a heat source, it ages them prematurely. Ours are in the cupboard and occasionally sit on the shelves mentioned below if we aren't blasting heat in that zone.

We purchased a kitchen "wall bar" system from Ikea and two hanging wine glass holders/rack/shelf things that hook over the bar. Phoenix installed the bar over the back of our stovetop and the "shelves" ride in the cabinet and get put up as part of our setup. We use them to hold the little jar of ground coffee, sweetener, and miscellaneous small countertop clutter items - we normally remove these prior to firing up those burners. The wine racks aren't shown anymore on the Ikea site but I think it was the Grundtal system shown here - we had to go with the shorter bar. It's possible these systems won't fit with newer models as they widened the kitchen window (jealous) but there may be something out there at kitchen stores that will fit. Someone else on the forum used the Fintorp series and hangs a basket on it for fruit and such

We kept the mirror and like it. It is easy to clean and brightens the area. If you hate the idea of glass, Ikea and home stores sell metal backsplashes/panels for your walls. The glass tile is beautiful but heavy and I figure it will be harder to clean than a smooth sheet of glass as you now deal with grout. A metal panel would be about the same to clean as the mirror but might show streaks and spots even more clearly than the mirror (due to reflection of the front of the rig - it confuses the eye... until it gets really bad then you have to clean it).

We also have a small, clear Command hook next to the mirror where we hang a silicone mitt when in camp (rides in the drawer).
85  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Hydraulic Jacks and Frame Bending on: October 17, 2016, 09:23:02 am
We can attest to the ability to roll off the jacks because we did. Early on, shortly after purchase John jacked up the back and down we went. We didn't "roll" due to the locked wheels in the back that then hit the ground but we did drop forward. Needless to say, lesson learned - we never did that again.

I have a question on the concern of frame bending. Isn't the frame what they use to securely lift the vehicle for repairs? Vehicles occasionally stay up on those lifts for days, seemingly with no issues. I understand the jacks are probably a more limited contact zone than the lifts but they are supporting both sides of the steel frame or one side is supported on the tires. Surely vehicle design takes those factors into consideration or the jacks would not be deemed safe for use. They've been around for years.
86  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Chassis Mods by Ford-Approved Subcontractor for PC -- Any Probs? on: October 17, 2016, 09:11:57 am
It's cool they can hide the fuel filler door but it seems the gas fumes would frequently wind up wafting into the vehicle being so close to door and windows. It will be interesting to see how that works for people.
87  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ground Clearance of Sewer Drain Outlet and Hydraulic Jacks on: October 16, 2016, 08:24:30 am
We've seen several Lexington RV's by Forest River that look a lot like our Phoenix. It appears they don't make them any more if their website shows all models but I see used ones on the different RV sale sites. We had several Lexington owners checking out our rig and commenting that they wished they'd known about Phoenix Cruisers before they bought the Lexington. One couple had just bought their unit and were having issues with "tail wag" as well as being disappointed in the build, especially after seeing ours. They had downsized from a DP and liked the sleek "easy to handle" style... except they apparently didn't get "easy to handle". I gave them a brochure and the look in the man's eye said he was considering ditching the Lexington and buying Phoenix.

I guess what I'm saying is while there may not be many choices like the Phoenix, it seems a lot of the people that checked out all the choices then buy or covet the Phoenix so so it doesn't matter if you got to check out the competition if you've already bought the best.
88  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 14, 2016, 08:46:13 am
That is our plan though we haven't been out in the Phoenix since we purchased the table. The ladies from Vermont said they used it inside (and I'm pretty sure outside too).

We intend to use it inside and outside when needed. So far we have not needed the outside table that we've been carrying, well, maybe once. The few times we didn't have a picnic table, we just winged it and lounged around in our chairs using other items as side tables for food. That said, we've only set up the Phoenix table two or three times since we purchased in May of 2013 - and that's while we were on board full time and working for a year and a half. One of the times we set it up was simply to demonstrate to people planning to buy a Phoenix.

We do have a custom, flip up "desk" that we used for our computers when we were working half time on board and needed to work inside. Even that is seldom used now that we've retired. I'm pretty sure we never put it up just for eating. We ate sitting in living room chairs at the old house and that's primarily how we eat when on the road... that or at the picnic table. I guess it's kind of funny that we do the "sit down" meals more when we are out in the woods than when we are inside a house.

89  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Coleman 4-in-1 Table on: October 11, 2016, 08:31:47 am
Maybe it is the color change. I was thinking the silver and white was the old style and the mosaic was the new one since the mosaic is the one on the Coleman site. However, the silver one did cost more on Amazon so maybe it is the replacement/new style... OR they could be getting rid of all of them. There are quite a few styles on Amazon including one with benches.
90  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dont make the same mistake and make PC mad on: October 10, 2016, 05:16:36 pm
We had trouble with our Atwood furnace also and had trouble getting warranty repairs. I had communicated with Kermit in advance so I knew that the different components are under warranty with the different companies. So I KNEW it should go through Atwood without my having to pay up front. After freezing for a while we gave up on the authorized repair center and drove south. We tried again with another Atwood service dealer with no luck. We finally waited it out and had Kermit handle it in Indiana when we got there. He had his local Atwood guy fix the unit and I sincerely hope he didn't get hit with any fees. It was definitely a warranty repair.

I know you are upset with Phoenix but you were, um, screwed by the Atwood service dealers. Since I had similar service issues at two separate dealers in two separate states and you had issues with two more dealers in more states, I'm going to lob out a guess that Atwood is not so good at paying their warranty claims so the dealers try to dodge it. Those Atwood dealers flat out lied to you so they could get paid right away. Atwood requires that they send in the bad part to get reimbursed for the warranty repair (I know due to many calls to Atwood). By the way, it may not be your motherboard - that is just the nice big expensive repair they claim it needs. Many times it is the igniter. Atwood seems to have some bad ones out there (though they seem to have bad motherboards also). If you keep having problems, try swapping that igniter. If it is still under warranty, get it from Atwood or verify which one won't void the warranty. I think my furnace warranty was two years so check that before messing with it if it goes out again. If they finally process your parts and determine the motherboard(s) was not bad, I'd suggest pressing Atwood for resolution since it is THEIR authorized service centers that pulled this off. Perhaps it will help prevent other people from getting the same run around.

We have come to realize that since an RV is many different parts from many different manufacturers, there tends to be a lot of finger pointing. Manufacturers try to put the blame and repair cost back on the RV builder. Phoenix packed all your warranty cards in that huge zipper case that came with your motor home. You sent those in to each manufacturer and they are responsible for warranty repairs for their product. ONLY if Phoenix installed something wrong or something else in the rig caused the problem, should Phoenix be liable. In our case, Atwood claimed we had insufficient propane pressure to run the furnace - this they diagnosed over the phone. After verifying that wasn't the issue, I was back on the phone with Atwood and back to finding a repair shop that could help us. The repair shop tested the propane flow and it was proven to be fine so Atwood could no longer deny it was their product that was faulty.

Kermit has helped us out repeatedly with issues that are not the fault or liability of Phoenix. I hope he is able to get Atwood to do the right thing by you.
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