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106  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: How much lift is "too high" with HWH jacks? on: September 22, 2013, 11:37:01 pm
Like you, most of our stays are in RV parks with fairly level sites.  This week we are staying at Premier RV Resort in Redding, Ca and our site is almost perfectly level.  We still put down the jacks just to stabilize the coach especially when using the patio door.  Only takes a few minutes to put them down and it's good to give them regular exercise.
107  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: How much lift is "too high" with HWH jacks? on: September 22, 2013, 01:14:07 am

I'm happy to hear that you have interest in this topic.

I use the jacks as described in the hwh owners manual, which I would describe as manual.  We first extend all four jacks (unfold them), then extend the jacks on the low wheels until the coach is level.  Once we are level, extend the remaining jacks until they touch the ground.

As I mentioned in the original post, sometime the coach is too far off level to start with and we run out of safe (too much) jack extension before we reach level.  How much is "too much" was my original question.

When I want more lift than I feel is safe with the jacks, I've been driving up on some leveling blocks before extending the hwh jacks.  We need to put additional blocks on the ground under the jacks before starting to extend them. 

I'm not aware of any automatic procedure with these jacks and had never thought about taking some weight off of the tires by extending the jacks while the coach is in storage.  Maybe someone else has some opinions on this.


108  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: How much lift is "too high" with HWH jacks? on: September 14, 2013, 05:14:16 pm
Thank you for sharing your experience with the jacks--nice to hear info from HWH.  I'll now feel more secure in raising the front end.
Another question:
Do you use leveling bubbles to estimate how much you'll need to lift?  If so, where do you mount them?
Best regards,
109  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / How much lift is "too high" with HWH jacks? on: September 13, 2013, 06:47:24 pm
My question is how to interpret the HWH Operator's Manual statement that says "REMEMBER, if lifted too high, the vehicle may roll forward or backward off the jacks."  How do I determine what is "too high"?  And, do the HWH jacks automatically stop extending when a maximum is reached?

Here is our situation:
For the second time this month we're in a campsite that slopes away quite a bit on the front right side of our coach.  This site is all on dirt, near to a stream running in front of us.  Other than the slope, we like this site and don't want to move to another for the week that we'll be here.  So, we've managed to minimize the slope by moving the coach around a few feet, driving the right front tire up on 3 1/2" of blocks, placing 3 1/2" of pads under the HWH jack at that corner, and extending the HWH jack as much as I'm sure is safe.  The entry steps are a bit high off of the ground, so we've put a small portable step on the ground to help us climb up.  We're almost level now, but still have a little slope to the front right.

I'm tempted to extend the jacks a bit more, but don't want to push my luck before seeking help.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

110  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How did you take delivery? on: September 13, 2013, 01:02:15 am
Kermit's son, Kraig delivered our 2552 to us near Gilroy, CA.  We understand that he regularly delivers coaches to folks all over the country for a reasonable fee.
--Bruce and Sharon
111  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Do you use pads with your auto-leveler? on: September 10, 2013, 01:18:04 am
We experienced another situation today that put our jack pads to work.  We're now in Southern Oregon where the temperature is expected to reach about 100 degrees each day this week.  Because of this heat, the RV park owner where we're staying is requiring all RV's using metal leveling jacks to use jack pads in order to protect the asphalt sites.  We're happy that we have the required pads with us. 
112  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Do you use pads with your auto-leveler? on: September 09, 2013, 01:51:06 am
After our last experience, I would say 8 or 10 of the 12" pads would be useful at times.  Some to roll a wheel(s) on to and some to place under the jacks.  Might only need that many in an unlevel site.
113  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Do you use pads with your auto-leveler? on: September 08, 2013, 09:44:32 pm
I don't know if this is a good example to follow, but the four 12" x 12" pads that we carry helped us to get the coach level during our recent stay in a very side sloping site.  We could back in far enough to get the rear end level side to side, but the front right wheel was very low.  We first extended our leveling jacks to about the maximum that I felt safe to do.  We were still on a downward slope to the right side, enough to feel uncomfortable inside.  That's when an idea came to me:
There was a 5 ft. length of 4" x 6" lumber and another shorter length of 2" x 6" near the rear of the site.  I guessed that someone had used these before.
I used three of the 12" pads to build a step up to the 4 x 6 we had laid lengthwise in front of the right tire, and then continued forward on to the 2 x 6.
Then we used a stack of the pads to insert under the jacks before starting to extend them. This time we could extend the jacks enough to level the coach.

It looked strange and maybe unsafe with the right front tire balanced on the 6" wide lumber, but we camped there for 9 days with no problem.

Maybe someone can tell me if this was safe?

114  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Sound under bed in 2552 on: September 06, 2013, 12:03:38 pm
Thank you so much for the great explanation of our inverter system.
The fan does not actually bother me at night, except that I worried that something was going bad.  We are in an older RV park currently with some unusual electric plugin units and I thought it could be causing our system to act up.
Now I can rest easy.
115  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Sound under bed in 2552 on: September 05, 2013, 06:46:08 pm
I never would have thought of the Inverter, especially since it is off where we are now camped.  It's very quiet here, so the fan is more noticeable.
116  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Problems accessing forum? on: September 05, 2013, 06:39:53 pm
Ron, Is CCleaner appropriate for Apple products like Mac Book and I-Pad or just PC's?
117  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Sound under bed in 2552 on: September 04, 2013, 11:05:01 pm
We intermittently hear something running under the rear section of the passenger side bed when nothing seems to be turned on.  The furnace and water pump are located in the area of the sound (with a fan or a pilot light?).  We have the furnace, water heater, water tank heater, and water pump off and still hear that sound.
Maybe it's the the power converter fan, but don't know if it is located in that area.  If it's the power converter, should we be worried about it running so much?
Bruce and Sharon
118  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Problems accessing forum? on: September 04, 2013, 10:49:55 pm
Thank you for checking on this.  We were having the problem, but now think it was because we are located on the far edge of an RV Park with Wifi.  The connection is slow out there, so that must be why we could only connect to the main PC site but not the Forum some times.
All is good here next to the park office.
119  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Which model is best for us? on: August 24, 2013, 11:24:27 pm
Jim, Jim, and Sparky,
Thanks for your replies with the kind words.
We had only a few fixes needed to the 2350 after it arrived, so no big problem to break it in.  It did take a while to learn how to use most of the systems and how to use the storage areas efficiently, but that learning experience has helped us tremendously in getting the 2552 ready to travel.  We still haven't mastered the entertainment center.
We'll be leaving home on our usual late summer/early fall RV trip to Northern California and Southern Oregon next week, so that will be the first real test.
Happy trails,
Bruce and Sharon
120  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: August 24, 2013, 12:28:08 pm
The two of us have owned several RV's during the last 35 years and have found that individual preferences and circumstances make a big difference in deciding which RV would be best to own.  Ease of driving is certainly important, but size and floor plan can be critical factors.  
We've decided to share our experience in purchasing our current Phoenix Cruiser as a separate post in hopes that it can help you decide which model would be best for you.
You can find the post titled "Which model is best for us?"
--Bruce and Sharon
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