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136  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Check my understanding of battery voltage status on: May 28, 2013, 09:02:05 pm
This is an update on our earlier posting re battery status:
Visited the coach in storage lot after two days.  The XM1800 inverter panel now shows "Input Voltage" of only 12.3, so we're back to where we were before running the generator to recharge the batteries.  No time to deal with this until we return from our non-RV trip near the end of June.
Bruce
137  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning/polishing front part of roof on: May 28, 2013, 11:16:56 am
Sharon has always claimed that climbing ladders is my favorite hobby because we own so many!   Smile
Now that I've almost reached 73, she's worrying even more that I'll do something too stupid up there.  I'm happy to hear at least two other 2350 owners understand my dilemma . ThankYou
138  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Check my understanding of battery voltage status on: May 28, 2013, 11:00:01 am
Wow, that is a coffee maker! 
139  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning/polishing front part of roof on: May 27, 2013, 10:05:38 pm
Denny,  Laying on my belly on the roof to clean as much as I can reach is what I always did with our previous RV, so I don't think that is stupid or crazy--just making sure we don't try to go too far.  A ladder for the vertical front portion is what I did before because I could get the ladder up close to the Class A coach.  The Ford chassis makes this seem impossible for me to reach all the way to the center section without standing on the hood (I'm only 5'6" tall).  I'd love to have a picture of you doing this.   Smile  Maybe it would take a ladder on each side with a plank across to make a scaffold--that does sound crazy!
Bruce
140  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Check my understanding of battery voltage status on: May 27, 2013, 09:43:25 pm
Thanks for the quick replies!
The temperature here on the Monterey Bay was probably about 58 degrees on the morning I took the voltage readings.  Unless the SOC levels for 58 is much different than the 80 degree levels on Barry's chart, the 12.5 volt reading on my XM1800 display means that our batteries are about 82% charged.  Running the generator for about 30 minutes (with no other load on) raised the SOC by about 15%.
I'm assuming that we can go away on our three week non-RV trip on Wednesday and not worry about those batteries.  I don't have the ability to leave a trickle charger on them while in storage, but at least will put them in the "store" position.  Our previous RV had a small solar panel on the roof to take care of this--makes me consider adding one to our 2350.
Bruce
141  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Cleaning/polishing front part of roof on: May 26, 2013, 10:18:21 pm
How do you clean/polish the front part of the roof from where it slopes down to the windshield?
I've been using a long handled mop to wash dirt, etc. from there, but don't think that will work for bug splatter we'll likely get this summer.
Bruce
142  Main Forum / General Discussion / Check my understanding of battery voltage status on: May 26, 2013, 07:51:45 pm
First, I apologize that this post is longer than I had originally planned, or if I'm being redundant in bringing up a topic that has already been covered in this forum many times.  I'm still new here want to behave myself, but I can't seem to reduce my words and still be clear.
I'm still learning about the features on our new 2350.  We've used it three days in an all hookup RV park and three days of dry camping in a California State Park.  I've learned a lot about battery voltage status by reading many of your posts on this subject going back several years and think I now have a basic understanding of battery charging, etc.  But, just to be sure that I'm not missing something important, I'd like to share my experience with the inverter and generator during our dry camping:  The first morning when it was too early to start the generator, I attempted to use inverter power to run our small 4-cup coffee maker.  Shortly after turning it on, I heard a beeping sound and noticed an error message on the XM1800 inverter panel.  I assumed that the inverter could not handle the coffee maker even though I thought the two house batteries were fully charged.  After that camping trip I've been trying to reassure myself that the batteries are now fully charged (mainly because it will be sitting alone in storage for almost a month starting next Wednesday while we are away on a non-RV trip).
Today I went into the coach, made sure that the water in the batteries was at a good level, put the battery switch into the "use" position, and turned on the Xantrex Pro inverter.  The battery status read full when I pressed the battery button next to the holding tank level buttons.  The XM1800 inverter display had an orange status light glowing and 12.3 volts of "Input Voltage" reading.  I then started and ran the Onan generator for about 30 minutes.  The XM1800 display had a green status light glowing and 13.6 volts of "Input Voltage" reading during this charging time.  When I stopped the generator the XM1800 display had an orange status light glowing again and the "Input Voltage" reading quickly dropped down to 12.5 volts.
My last step was to measure the voltage directly off the batteries with my small test meter.  That showed approximately 12 volts.
Am I correct to assume that my batteries are fully charged and will be safe to leave alone for almost a month?
143  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex 1800 on: May 26, 2013, 03:02:15 pm
Greg, Our 2013 2350 breaker and fuse panel read almost the same as Barry's (also in almost indecipherable writing):

120V CB Panel:
1.  Receptacle
2.  Water Heater
3.  Microwave  
4.  Roof Air  
5.  Inverter 30
     --20
     --30  
6.  Inverter 20
     --20
7.  Receptacle/Television
8.  Vacant

12V Fuse Panel (1 to 7 are 20 amp, 8 is 3 amp):
1.  Tank Heater
2.  Driver Side
3.  Passenger Side
4.  Coach Rear
5.  Water Pump
6.  Water Heater/Refrigerator
7.  Antenna/Awning
8.  Detectors
9 to 15 Vacant

Bruce
144  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 25, 2013, 11:31:23 am
Ron, Thanks for the clear explanation on your use of the small battery charger.  I think our situation is very similar to yours in that we usually tow our car, only have two house batteries, and no solar charger.  So, your comments are very helpful in developing a strategy for house power.  Interesting that you can run the coffee maker off the inverter when the batteries are full.  On our first dry camping situation that I described earlier, the low battery alarm went off almost immediately although the meters said our batteries started out full.  Maybe our coffee maker is an electric over-user.
I have more questions about our Onan generator set and plan to make a new post on that subject later.
145  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: rain entering my 2552 on: May 24, 2013, 11:04:39 pm
Jim,
Here is the address that I've used to contact Karen at Phoenix to forward messages to Kermit:
Karen Hurtekant <karen@phoenixcruiser.com>
I've never received an email from Kermit, but have received phone calls returned when I asked to speak to him.
Good luck,
Bruce
146  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 23, 2013, 06:56:53 pm
Hi Ron,  Thanks for the explanation on the battery charging.  I thought that running the generator in the 2350 would quickly recharge the house batteries.  I'll need to pay more attention to the Xantrex remote panel input voltage display to see if the batteries need a recharge during any inverter use.  During our three day Big Sur drying camping adventure I only ran the generator when I was using the coffee maker or microwave oven (only about an hour total).  The rest of the time I think the only battery drain was from interior lights and radio. 
How often do you usually use your charger unit while out camping?  At what battery level do you think it's best to start the recharge?
One more question:  Where is the negative cable from your charger unit connected?
147  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 22, 2013, 07:28:44 pm
Hi Denny,
Interesting comment you make about carrying an inflatable kayak as we also have one. 
I would never have thought to even consider packing it onboard our 2350 as the weight on the rear axle was 8440 lb. during our first trip (just 60 lb. less than the 8500 GAWR).  I expect we'll be needing to carry a few more things when we head off on a longer trip.
Also, it never occurred to me to look under the coach for storage space.
Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Bruce

148  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 22, 2013, 07:14:24 pm
Hi Ron,
Thanks for the photo and comment on running the generator to charge the house batteries.  I don't completely understand the process here.  Could you explain in words what is going on in the photo?
Bruce
149  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 21, 2013, 08:52:31 pm
Hi Denny and Barb,
Thanks for sharing with us some of your activities and RV experience. 
You are definitely getting good use of your 2350. We once owned a Winn LeSharo, so understand how much you enjoy the size of your Phoenix Cruiser.
We've never done much dry camping, but we did three days last week in a campsite at California State Park Pfeiffer Big Sur. We didn't think about having a solar collector installed on our 2350, and it only has two batteries.  We ran the generator a few hours to keep the batteries charged.  So, we'll likely continue our habit of usually staying in hook-up places.  But it's nice to know that we can go without that for a few days.
Our first big trip will be during the month of September when we travel in Northern California and Southern Oregon before heading to Palm Desert, CA for the winter.  We're still trying to figure out how to pack for the various weather situations we'll be living with, and we'll need our towed car to be a storage locker.
Happy trails!
150  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 21, 2013, 08:06:09 pm
Hi Margie,
Nice to hear someone as close to us as San Jose has a 2350, too.  Maybe we'll see you at PCV sometime.  We don't have a plan for when we'll be there again, but almost always visit near the end of April or early May.  Maybe this September, too.
Bruce and Sharon
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