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61  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Small stains in gel coat on: August 14, 2016, 11:38:18 am
On July 19th I started this thread by describing the small stains in the gel coat on one side of our rig.

Yesterday I finally removed the stains and am happy to report that the job was almost too easy to believe.  The gel coat in question is now as white and shiny as it was three years ago.

Id purchased two types of Fiberglass Stain Remover, but didnt start work until yesterday for fear that the job would be too time consuming to fit in with other commitments.

The bottom line is that both of the products worked, but
 Starbrite Ultimate was much easier to use than the FSR.

In case youre interested in the details, here is a summary of the work:

I first started with Davis FSR because it is a thick gel that could be used without fear of it spreading too rapidly to control.

I applied some gel with a small kitchen sponge to a 12 square area, rubbing it into the surface, letting it sit for a few minutes, and then wiping the area with a clean wet towel.  This removed some of the stain.  I repeated this on the same area and the stain was gone.

After using the above procedure with the same results on two other 12" square areas, I decided to try the other removerStarbrite Ultimate.  The product label says it is also a gel, but it is much more fluid and comes in a spray bottle.

I first used the product on an area that included a small amount of decal and painted surface.  There was no resulting damage and the gel coat was as white as the previous sections after just this one try.

I immediately recognized that this process could move much faster, so I continued spraying and wiping on areas of about twenty square feet until the entire side of the coach was clean.  This required about the same amount of effort as hand washing the coach.

The rear cap had been developing some stains for unknown reasons over the last six months that I wasnt able to remove in the past.  There is also some yellowing there.  Since the Starbrite label states that the product will remove yellowing, I applied this product to the rear cap and it now looks almost new.  The yellowing is not completely gone, but perhaps a few more applications will help that too.

Thats all for now.

62  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Exterior Paint on: August 10, 2016, 06:43:26 pm
I'll try to answer the full body vs lower body paint question.  Without any paint the entire exterior of the coach is the white gel coat that you can see in the current photos shown in the 2100 inventory section of the main Phoenix Cruiser page--the one that shows the unit at various stages of production where no paint or decals have been applied.
With half body paint, the very lowest parts of the exterior are painted with normal auto body paint and then decals are added for the swirls. You can see this in many of the other sections of the PC site, such as in colors.
With full body paint, the entire exterior of the coach has auto body paint applied so you see none of the white gel coat.
63  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Small stains in gel coat on: July 21, 2016, 07:49:29 pm
Thanks to each of you for your suggestions on removing the stains in the gel coat.
I doubt that the work will be as easy as the reviews of FSR suggest, but this gives me hope that removal is possible.  Well give that a try sometime after we return from our camping trip.
64  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: WATER OVERFLOW? on: July 21, 2016, 12:25:35 pm
Ron G.
Our 2014 2552 has the gravity water fill system.  Earl told me that our unit was started in 2013 before the new fill system was available.
65  Main Forum / General Discussion / Small stains in gel coat on: July 19, 2016, 06:56:54 pm
We recently needed to temporarily store our rig in a lot surrounded by evergreen trees and next to a metal fabrication shop for three weeks.  As I cleaned the coach to get ready for the camping trip that were currently on I was horrified to see many small stains (most about 1/8 to 1/4" size) all over the unpainted gel coat and decals on the drivers side that Ive not been able to remove with any product that we have with us now.  These stains are smooth, dry to the touch.  They are level with the surrounding surface and appear to be absorbed into the gel coat.

No stains can be seen in the adjacent painted surface.

I assume that the stains were caused by sap falling from the trees or by some type of spray coming from the fabrication plant.  I suspect the latter because Ive never seen tree sap leave such a mark and only the side next to the plant has any (even though the tree line goes across both sides of the PC). 

Another thread here mentions using a light bleach mix to remove stains from caulking, so I plan to try that on these stains when we return home next week.

Has anyone here experienced such staining?

66  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Exterior Paint on: July 19, 2016, 06:19:53 pm
Im now in the group of PC owners that would recommend full-body paint because of the following brief history with ours.

Our 3-yesr old 2552 has lower body paint.  Im almost obsessive in keeping it clean and protected from UV as it is always parked outside (summer its usually in the generally cool, foggy Monterey bay climate, winter its in sunny Palm Desert, CA)

My experience is that the painted surface needs much less attention to keep it looking like new.  The painted surface usually just needs a light wipe-down, while the non-painted surfaces needs more effort to remove accumulated dirt.  The gel coat seems to attract more grime.

The whole unit gets a complete wash and wax three or four times a year.

We recently needed to temporarily store the coach in a lot surrounded by evergreen trees and next to a metal fabrication shop for three weeks.  As I cleaned the coach I was horrified to see many small stains (most about 1/8" to 1/4" size) all over the unpainted gel coat on the drivers side that Ive not been able to remove.  No stains can be seen in the adjacent painted surface.

Rather than hijack this tread toward stain removal questions I plan to start a new thread on that subject.

67  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: SO JUST HOW FAST DO YOU GO? on: July 18, 2016, 10:53:14 am
We always tow our Honda CR-V, so 55 to 65 MPH is max for us.
68  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 10, 2016, 11:15:31 am
Hello Bend Oregon.  Welcome to the Forum.

We loved our 38' Beaver Monterey diesel pusher (built in Bend) that we used for ten years until we switched to our Phoenix Cruiser in 2013 and we now love it equally.  We've found the fit and finish of Phoenix Cruiser to be equal to our Beaver, and the factory after-sale service to be superior to the excellent service we received in Bend.

We will be Ashland, OR for two weeks in September, so if you haven't seen a Phoenix Cruiser before then you might take a trip down to Ashland to see ours.

Bruce and Sharon
69  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning doesn't completely roll up on: July 06, 2016, 04:22:12 pm
Thank you GoPhoenix for your idea.  I just now gave the front arm a push as my wife closed the awning and it closed without leaving any gap at the top of the arm.   Cheer

Before closing the awning, I lightly tightened the knobs on both arm assemblies to help assure that they moved directly up toward the back channels.  (In the past I would always leave the knobs open fairly loosely.)  I did my best to keep the arm assemblies lined up while pushing straight up on the front arm.

We're going to be in the Santa Cruz Redwoods RV park for two weeks starting next Monday, so I'm very happy to get this to work at least on this last attempt.

I talked to a person at Dometic earlier this morning and was advised that the awning could unfurl while driving if we couldn't get the awning fully closed.

70  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ford Emissions Recall 15E05 on: July 06, 2016, 03:31:56 pm
We just received the recall notice, too.  I just renewed our annual California DMV license last week, so I don't need to hurry to get this done.  I'll be interested in hearing any of your experiences in having the reprogramming performed.
71  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning doesn't completely roll up on: July 03, 2016, 03:38:53 pm
This is an update on our electric awning not rolling up entirely.
After opening and closing it several times while it was in our storage unit it seemed to have corrected itself.
But, during our recent outing the awning is again not closing entirely, but almost.  The little arm that supports the middle section of the awning against the side of the coach seems to be properly located.  But a small section of each the two long awning arms are not completely up against the body.  I've attached a photo of one end.
I'm assuming that the electric awning motor will still hold the arms tight during travel, so have not yet made an attempt to take it to an awning company.
Do you think I'm being unsafe with my assumption?
72  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning exterior of PC on: June 10, 2016, 08:42:01 pm
I use a simple windshield cleaning device (can use various length handles depending on how far up the roof I wish to reach).  I first scrub the area with water (or some dry wash product) to loosen the dirt and bugs, then drop a towel over the end of the device to clean and dry the area.  Sometimes two or three passes with this is needed to get the area looking good.
We have the entire rig washed and waxed by a professional once a year.
73  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: E-350 windshield replacement on: May 27, 2016, 10:04:57 pm
Do you mean the Magna Shade magnets? 
When we needed to remove them from our previous rig we called the people at (336-753-0905) and they explained how to remove the magnets and sent us new stickers to put them on the new windshield.
The removal procedure was fairly easy by slipping a thin bladed putty knife between the magnets and the windshield.
74  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 110 Volt Power Questions on: April 19, 2016, 07:47:01 pm
In our 2552 the inverter does not supply 110v to the outlets behind the driver's and passenger seats.  The generator does.
The inverter appears to supply 110v to almost all of the other outlets, excluding the microwave oven.
75  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Dvd player won't turn on on: April 16, 2016, 05:11:39 pm
The DVD player in our 2552 failed during the first year that we owned it.  Kermit replaced it free.
I imagine he would sell you a new one if you asked.
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