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76  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Doubling Drawer Storage Of Galley Base Cabinet on: April 07, 2014, 05:33:48 pm
Beautiful job you did on your kitchen drawers.  I'm certain that many of us would like to have your setup in our PC's.

The original set of three drawers in the middle section of the cabinet in your photos surprised me, as I believe the new 2350 design has only two drawers in that center section.  The bottom drawer space is closed to cover some device now located there.  So the newer 2350 units have even less drawer space than your original setup.  That is even more reason to do a remodeling job.

77  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rig baths on: April 03, 2014, 12:05:20 pm
During our many years of RVing, we've never been questioned in RV parks for using a spray bottle and towel to clean small sections of our rig at a time as described in the previous post.  I often use waterless washing products (like those at and have an extendable brush made specifically for this.
I think that the parks that object to "washing" are referring to using water hoses and buckets that will likely use a lot of water and spray water all over the RV site (and likely over the RVers in nearby sites).
Many of the upscale parks we've stayed in allow commercial rig detailers to come in to do complete wash and wax jobs at the individual RV sites.  I usually avoid that due to the cost.   Grin
78  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 20, 2014, 12:02:28 am
Welcome Dave, Cathie and pups,
Here is a link to a recent club newsletter:
You can read a section on the RV West sub-group that mentions the Pismo Beach trip in May.  Contact Dave Van de Water (the club's Secretary-Treasurer) at the listed email address to get more information.
Hope to see you in Pismo Coast Village--it's one of our favorite RV parks.
Bruce and Sharon
79  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: DW missing Class A on our new lot on: March 18, 2014, 06:39:46 pm
I understand the potential nightmare at the gas pumps while towing a car.

We sold our 2004 37' diesel Class A last year and now have a 2014 PC 2552 (actual length 28'4'' without the ladder).  We feel that the change has been very good for our situation.

One thing that we didn't anticipate (and is now giving us some problem) is the amount of effort required to find gas stations that we feel comfortable entering while we're towing our Honda (which we do on almost every trip).  The turning radius of the 2552 is larger than I had imagined.  I never want to disconnect the toad just to get gas, so I can't get myself in a spot where I need to get into reverse gear.  This was never a problem with the 37' diesel because we always fueled up at truck stops.  We've found that most of the truck stops that we used before don't supply gas in the truck diesel lanes and the lanes for gas are in very close quarters.  So, we find ourselves looking for fuel fills long before the tank is near 1/4 full while traveling in an unfamiliar area.

The PC requires a little extra planning on our part in that regard.  No nightmares yet.  We love our PC.

80  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Any pets travel with you? on: March 14, 2014, 07:14:37 pm
Our 18 lb. Sparky the dog always travels with us.  He always wears his harness and a leash (same as used on dog walks) that attaches to one of the seat belts on the sofa.  The leash is just long enough that he can jump up to Sharon's lap in the front passenger seat when invited.  He usually stays on the sofa or on the floor between the two front seats, but occasionally wants more attention on a long trip.  He has learned to never jump up on my lap as I'm driving.  The leash would help me remove him quickly if he did try. 
When riding in the car he is always wearing a harness and a short leash that is attached to one of the rear seat belts so he can't come flying forward during a sudden stop.  It would probably be safer if his leash were shorter in the PC also, but we relax the safety rules a little to give him more freedom without increasing the risk too much.
Bruce and Sharon.
81  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Actual length of our 2552 on: February 18, 2014, 05:48:30 pm
We sent the measurement of your 2551 on to the couple who had seen our 2552 last weekend.  They are happy to get the info.
Thank you for your help.
82  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Actual length of our 2552 on: February 18, 2014, 09:47:44 am
We didn't measure the height.  You raise a good point that the web site could be incorrect on that measurement, too.  We are so much shorter than most other motor homes that we never really thought about it.  But, people wanting to store their rig in a garage would likely want an accurate measurement on that before ordering a new unit. 

We have a satellite dome on ours, so it's a little taller than a standard unit.  The rig is in a storage lot now, and I don't think I can get an accurate measurement of it's height.  I'll try to get an approximate measure next time we go over to it.

83  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Actual length of our 2552 on: February 17, 2014, 07:16:54 pm
I'm happy to see that you confirmed our measurement of the 2552 length, and agree that the web site should be corrected.
84  Main Forum / General Discussion / Actual length of our 2552 on: February 16, 2014, 09:30:31 pm
We learned today that our 2552 is actually 28'4" long (w/o the ladder).  Since the PC Brochure lists the length as 27'5" this was a big surprise.  It's not a problem to us except that many folks who see us in RV parks ask about the length, and we have been giving them incorrect information.

In case you wonder how we learned this, here is a brief explanation:
One couple interested in ordering a 2552 from the factory wanted to view one here in Southern California in order to be sure that it would fit inside of their new garage that is now being constructed.  Earl referred them to us.  When they called, we invited them over to see ours.  They came prepared with their long tape measure today.  We measured the ground covered between the most forward front edge of the Ford bumper and the back of the spare tire cover.

This measurement is critical to them because the inside of the new garage is 27'10" from front to back.  No way would the 2552 fit there, so now they are wondering if the 2551 would fit.  Of course it will if the 2551 is actually 12" shorter than the 2552.

If any of you with a 2551 have an accurate measurement of your rig, we could forward that information to the potential buyers.

Bruce and Sharon
85  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 31" TV? on: February 13, 2014, 05:56:01 pm
No noise at all from the Samsung TV in our new 2552 while on the road.
86  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Bike Rack on: February 09, 2014, 06:29:13 pm
A small receiver extender/adapter might place the tow bar out away from the spare tire cover enough so that the tow bar cover will fit easily.
Just a thought.
87  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Bike Rack on: February 07, 2014, 12:27:45 pm
I can see that the Blue Ox allows you to unhook and store the bars without moving the bikes.
As I mentioned earlier, I can unhook and move our Roadmaster tow bar laterally as you do, but it will not lock there.  I think I'll try in a safe area my idea of strapping up the bars to the bike rack at that point so that we could carefully drive the PC in the campground.
Another difference I see is the type of dual receiver adapters that we have.  Ours has the toad receiver straight out from the PC receiver to avoid a drop down there in order to keep level with the toad.  The bike rack receiver sits above the toad receiver.  That might leave less working space between the two receivers.
Thanks again for your help.
88  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Bike Rack on: February 06, 2014, 06:41:33 pm
Heres another example of why I love this forum:

For six months Ive been thinking that no way could I haul bicycles on my bike rack with it attached to the rear of our PC and at the same time pull a toad because I thought that I would need to remove the bikes when we had to disconnect the toad before driving around the campsite.  Removing the bikes before moving the toad would be too logistically difficult.  Barry and Ron have helped me see some other possibilities.

First Barry told me that he can accomplish my desired task with his set-up and then Ron helped me see how I might maneuver the tow bar that was causing the problem in my attempts.

Ron, I had never thought of operating the tow bar in any way other than what I had always donepush the two arms together, lift them vertically, then fold them horizontally into the stored position.  From the photo you included in your last post, it looks like you usually leave  a part of the baseplate attached to the two tow bar arms when you disconnect your toad, and that keeps the arms in a triangle shape.  Thats something that I might like to do when I dont have my bike rack on the PC.  But, our bike rack is similar the Barrys (see his in the first photos in this thread) that has the dual track bars where the bike wheels sit.  Those track bars block lifting the tow bar arms up to vertical.   Your thoughts here of using a different approach helped me start thinking.

Perhaps instead of lifting the Roadmaster All Terain tow bar arms to vertical when I disconnect the toad, I could just push the arms together and then swing them right or left  horizontally to a position under the bike rack track bars.  The arms will not lock in that position, so I would need to strap them up to the track bars well enough to be able to drive the PC around in a manner suggested by Ron.

Barry, your photos show a tow bar the looks like a Blue Ox, so maybe that make it easier for you to disconnect your toad and drive the PC away without removing the bikes.  Am I right on that?  Any comment or suggestion on the possible plan Ive laid out above?

89  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Bike Rack on: February 06, 2014, 11:37:03 am
Wow, I'd like to be able to stow the tow bar as you do.  My Roadmaster tow bar "arms" must be lifted and then folded to the side after the toad is disconnected.  My Saris bike rack is dual track like your rack, and it blocks my attempts to deploy or stow the tow bar when the rack is attached to the PC.
Your tow bar must operate differently, or I don't understand my options with mine.
Does this description make sense to you?  Maybe my solution is to buy a tow bar like yours.
Thanks for your help on this.
90  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Bike Rack on: February 05, 2014, 01:00:58 pm
Does your bike rack and tow bar set-up allow you to disconnect your toad and fold up the tow bar without taking the bicycles off of the rack?
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