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76  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question on mixing tow bar and tow plate manufacturers on: August 05, 2013, 08:06:02 pm
Can't speak to the Demco.

I have used Demco baseplates on three toads with no problems. This does not address your problem, but on two occasions I have asked Demco for their assistance on solving a problem and they have gone the extra mile. I can't see where a Demco adapter and towbar wouldn't do the job, but as mentioned it seems the BlueOx towbar would be the cheaper fix. Regardless either solution should work just fine. Good luck on whichever you choose!
77  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Atlin, BC on: August 04, 2013, 08:06:48 pm
This trip was on our return to Canada after traveling throughout Alaska in the summer of 2007. We decided that Atlin would be our first stop in BC before heading South. 60 miles on an unpaved road, but well worth the trip. We took this side trip during our almost 5 months tour of Canada and Alaska. Maybe something up in the Northwest Territories would be as far out in the "boonies"; but I doubt it. We pulled our 5ver, but quickly wished we had a TC or PC for all the possible turn-offs. Atlin was a unique town with a small private campground on Atlin Lake. They have this old ship in dry dock that used to carry the tourists to Atlin back in the 20's before the "dirt" road was built. I believe they nicknamed it "Noah's Ark". Met a great couple from Vancouver that had a TC and camped on a spit running out into the lake. We also met a couple from Australia that had rented a TC for 3 weeks to tour Canada and ended up in Atlin. We camped on the shores of Atlin Lake which I believe is the largest freshwater lake in BC. The town pumped their water from the lake and they had posted signs warning about drinking it-don't think it passed inspection(all the locals drank it). In this small town, stuck in the 50's, they had a gourmet cooking school that served dinner for $5 twice a week. They used to be a mining town and some time in the past they had painted this large rock a gold color and proclaimed it as the largest nugget ever found in Canada. It was definitely a trip to remember!
78  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Stimulus Plan on: August 03, 2013, 07:23:49 pm
Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House.

One is from Chicago, another is from Alabama, and the third is from Minnesota.

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence.

The Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring,
then works some figures with a pencil.

"Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400
for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Alabama contractor also does some measuring and figuring, and then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure but leans over to the
White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys!
How did you come up with such a high figure?"

The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we
hire the guy from Alabama to fix the fence."

"Done!" replies the government official. And that, my friends, is how the stimulus plan works.


79  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: > Beer contains....WHAT? on: August 01, 2013, 11:29:53 am
Continually mentioning it is like trying to end a conversation with a question.

Sounds finalized to me unless you consider this to be a question.  Smile
80  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: > Beer contains....WHAT? on: August 01, 2013, 08:16:15 am
lets forget that joke ever happened.  Cheers

Sounds good to me!  ThumbsUp
81  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: > Beer contains....WHAT? on: July 31, 2013, 10:14:46 pm
Don't get all excited girls, it's just a joke Wink
Good to clarify....especially following just behind the Welfare joke.

BTW:  VERY Funny!

For better or for worse, the Welfare joke is history. Peace!  Cheers
82  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: > Beer contains....WHAT? on: July 31, 2013, 09:25:59 pm
This I think is funny.  rolling on the floor

Sounds sexist to me!

Sorry, I couldn't resist the urge. Peace!  Wink
83  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 31, 2013, 09:13:28 pm

In another 8-10 weeks my wife (Joni) and I will be the proud owners of our very first RV; a 2014 PC 2552!

A few custom options:
50 amp electrical service (overkill, probably?)
Surge Guard hard-wired (w/remote power LCD monitor)
Coleman Mach 8 15,500btu a/c (again, overkill?)
Satellite radio (we love music)
Bathroom sink cover

 - Mike

Welcome! If you get two A/Cs with the 50 amp then the units quietness is not as important because you can always run the A/C in the opposite part of the RV that you're occupying. I was very concerned about the noise with just one unit because we used to have a Lance slide-in on a Ford 350 and the 13.5 A/C was way to loud. We swore we would not have another RV without ducted air. Of course when you want a PC you have to give a little; my compromise was to have the 15K Mach 8 Coleman HP with two motors. On high setting both motors operate and it's somewhat loud, but when you switch to low it's quieter than some ducted units I've heard.

I agree that the 50 amp without two A/Cs would not be overkill, but I just wanted the lighter weight 30 amp power cord (smaller storage area). I definitely agree with Ron to have the monitor moved to the mirror location-my DW hits it a lot.
Good Luck with whatever you decide-the PC is a good choice!

One caveat: my hearing is not what it used to be-could account for the quiet A/C.  Grin
84  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: To tow or not to tow. That is the question. on: July 28, 2013, 03:17:17 pm
It sounds like everyone prefers the type of brake that is permanent and hidden rather than the type with the removable unit that sits on the floor of the toad.Alan

I use the RVi brake system which is one you describe as one "that sits on the floor". I have used it with two class A's and now my PC. I find that it's an outstanding system and is readily exchangeable with different toads and RVs. We have two toads that we tow four down and it's a simple job to switch the brake system between them. I understand that their latest unit has a tire sensor system built-in. I would highly recommend them for a brake system.

Our favorite toad with the PC is our small Ford Ranger pick-up truck with a covered bed. Storage is tight after stepping down from a class A. Towing the 3100# Ranger allows us to carry some of the goodies that we enjoy on trips, but could not carry otherwise. We have the freedom to explore or just go out to eat. I doubt that it costs a mile per gallon, but we wouldn't be without it. 
85  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Low power solution on: July 28, 2013, 10:56:14 am
Hello, Another think about the low voltage, most likely the 30 amp plug has a loose connection and the wire is burning up inside the post.
Jim and Rae Anne

Good possibility, but most of the times I've found myself at the end of the distribution line. The wire is not large enough to carry the load. In it's day, it probably was sufficient, but in this age of two and three A/Cs with heat pumps the power grid is not able to handle the load. When it's possible I try to locate nearer to the power source especially in the summer.

A trip through Alaska will give you a good lesson on low power. Some campgrounds are on generator and power is only available during certain hours supplying about 10 amps maximum. I've seen 30 amp receptacles that when traced back to the distribution box had 10 amp circuit breakers. I do not feel comfortable hooking up without at least a voltage and polarity tester which I use before setting up on the site. 
86  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Window awnings? on: July 25, 2013, 10:30:12 pm
We had them on our Alpine and they are very definately nice to have. Our PC has the tip-out bottom panes so they're not quite as important.

Our panes have the tip-out feature also, but I thought they would be good if the sun hits that side. I also have the dual panes so it might be over kill, but I could leave the shades up to have some view.
87  Main Forum / General Discussion / Electric couch? on: July 25, 2013, 10:18:07 pm
Anyone know the best way to get the foot to lock back on the electric couch? It unlocks easy enough, but can't get the lock to hold when pushing the foot back. Thanks for any help!
88  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: WATER PUMP FIX UP on: July 25, 2013, 10:13:54 pm
I copied this from an email from

My water pump is very noisy and vibrates the pipes down the side of RV. What could be the problem?

Bill G

Some good suggestions, but none will completely stop vibrations. They failed to mention the one thing that truly works: 18-24" of flex hose on each end of pump. This assumes that you start with a quality water pump.
89  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Window awnings? on: July 24, 2013, 09:17:53 pm
Anyone install window awnings on the driver side? Thinking about install them to help reduce the sun on that side. The main awning takes care of the passenger side. Are they worth doing? Thanks for any replies!
90  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Low power solution on: July 19, 2013, 07:31:01 pm
Well I'll be DONGLED hahah..  alright back to serious     SHIPPER,   trying to learn,,,,, even though you plug into the 30amp with only 106volts are you saying you may not have enough power to run your stuff?  Is that why you kept the frige on gas?? You had 120v on the 20amp,,,, crud I'm confused,  I realize you have more power with 30 than 20amp,,,, HELP haha
David Sparks
2008 PC 2350

Everything I've run across says you need a minimum of 110-115 volts to not damage 120-130 volt appliances. The damage probably won't be noticed when it occurs (unless it shuts the appliance down), but will definitely shorten its life.

As far as power is concerned you only need enough amps to power the appliances you are using for the rated voltage. 30 amps allows more appliances than 20 amps but only if each source is at least 110 volts and preferably more.

By only running the critical appliances on electric you may be able to keep the voltage at an acceptable level. You can manage this by switching the appliances that can operate on propane to propane. This is all moot if you can't check the voltage at the pedestal. Most of the surge protectors only tell you if the pedestal is wired correctly but not about the voltage. I'm sure someone can reply with more detail. Hope this helps!
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