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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Making a change... on: June 24, 2017, 11:10:38 am
Well, we settled on a new 2017 Fleetwood Storm 36D.  It's a 36ft 'bunkhouse' floor plan on a Ford chassis and Ford Triton engine (3D walkthrough here:  We had looked at the comparable Thor and Winnebago units and found the Fleetwood fit/finish much better, and have only found three relatively minor issues with it.  So far I am pleased by how well it drives, but will be bringing it up to Hendersons Lineup in Grants Pass to have a Road Performance Assessment accomplished (and definitely a Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer installed). Paid about 30% below MSRP for the motorhome and have already comfortably entertained 5 adults in it (and comfortably slept 4 adults and one child)

We advertised our PC on RVTrader and RVT (there was some mixup with Aimee so it was never advertised here on the forum) and we had about a dozen serious inquiries (half 'local' and half in other states) It sold in 10 days to the first couple who looked at it .

   - Mike
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Forum Screen General Appearance Color Format on: June 23, 2017, 10:05:22 am
It sounds like a similar problem I was having and looks like a need to clear the cache.

If you are using Safari, the only way I've found to fix the problem is to go to settings, scroll down and select Safari, then choose 'clear history and website data'.  It should also work by choosing 'Advanced' in the Safari settings, then 'Website Data', then finding the Phoenix website in the very long list (or just choose 'Remove all website data' at the bottom of the list)

Try running another web browser like Firefox, Chrome, Photon, etc. and see if you still have the problem.

   - Mike
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: June 20, 2017, 05:00:27 am
Ran across some interesting product(s) which sound like they may be helpful with the noise/heat issues around the cab area...

Lizard Skin - they sell two products, a ceramic thermal insulation coating and a sound damping coating.

That led me to what looks like a cheaper version of the thermal insulation coating from Hy-Tech Thermal Solutions.  They sell thermal insulating paint and thermal insulating additives (ceramic microspheres or vacuum beads)

Which led me to a variety of DYI projects described by hot rod club members and airplane enthusiasts, some of whom use simple latex paints mixed with quantities of glass spheres (or micro-balloons) available through places like Wicks Aircraft Supply.

I didn't include any links, but a simple search will bring up all you need to know, if interested.

    - Mike
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Best Air Conditioner ? on: June 07, 2017, 01:06:00 pm
Yes, they sold a kit to reduce the noise on older units.  The new units no longer have that problem.

Our new class A has two Coleman units and we love them.

   - Mike
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Best Air Conditioner ? on: June 07, 2017, 06:21:50 am
It's not clear from the link you posted whether that unit has an electric heat strip.  It also states that the Atwood has a CFM rating of both 330 and 360? 

The Coleman Mach 8 (15,000 BTU unit) has a CFM rating of 300, is 4 inches shorter than the Atwood, has two motors like the Atwood, and has two rather than Atwood's three fan speed settings.  It's interesting that this Atwood unit has higher 'effective' BTU ratings than the listed ratings. Sounds great if true.

In our experience with Arizona-like heat in a 2552 with the Coleman 15,000 BTU unit and dual panes windows with shades drawn....we could cool the RV down by max 20 degrees.

  - Mike
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup camera system on: May 17, 2017, 10:30:35 am
Our monitor was a Sony, but camera not.
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup camera system on: May 17, 2017, 03:31:32 am
Our camera was a CST [Convoy Technologies] Riverpark Color Rear View Camera  (Model C1000). If yours is the same then a good place to start might be Riverpark or Convoy themselves ( Also very helpful folks at

     - Mike
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Installing a child's car seat in PC2100 on: May 15, 2017, 05:35:56 pm
Regarding use of the cab area passengers seat for a child's seat.... I've posted some of the details here before (use search), but essentially:

- Although Ford provides an optional (i.e.: option) switch to turn off the passengers air bag, it isn't provided by Phoenix on their stock chassis.
- There is a legal method to retrofit the RV to have this switch installed by Ford after the fact.
- A letter needs to be sent to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which we did, describing the situation/circumstance and requesting an approval for Ford to install the switch.
- They review the letter and approve or deny the request (they approved ours and sent us the approval letter for Ford)
- You bring the letter to a Ford dealer and request installation of the switch (relatively cheap switch and installation cost).......which we did.
- Problem solved!  Oops...not so fast.  No Ford dealer we asked would install the switch, even with the written blessing of the NTSB, citing possible liability issues. 
- Your experience may vary in your neck of the woods.

    - Mike
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Making a change... on: May 12, 2017, 03:26:55 pm
Well, it didn't take but a couple of years with our new PC before family and friends created an overcrowding situation.  Who knew they would all love camping/RV'ing all of a sudden....yet not enough to buy their own rig!   shrug Grandchildren also tend to shape our future, so we've decided to sell our beloved 2552 and get a Class A (with a bunkhouse floor plan) in the 34-36 ft range.

It's been a pleasure using our PC and learning from y'all! We'll probably still monitor/post here for a while.  We will also have Aimee post our PC for sale here on the forum next week in case you know anyone in the market for a nice used model.

All the best, and happy trails!  ThankYou

    - Mike and Joni
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Anyone Have Experience With A "Dream Dinette" Table Lift System? on: May 09, 2017, 07:39:41 pm
Hmmm, I just noticed that Fleetwood calls this type of dinette a 'Dream Dinette' too. 
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Anyone Have Experience With A "Dream Dinette" Table Lift System? on: May 09, 2017, 07:27:37 pm
Ron: No experience with the dream dinette, but did see a few just recently as we looked at some class A's. Fairly easy setup and would be comfy for those that like a firm mattress (not me)  Lots of YouTube videos on them, but definitely not the same as first hand experiences. 

We also saw a neat looking, very easy to set up, system that Fleetwood uses.  Check out this YouTube video and fast forward to the 6:00 minute mark:

    - Mike
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Four-year-old tire failure after 14,000 miles on: May 04, 2017, 05:43:21 am
Our 2552 loaded has 8700 back there, which should be about 70 psi.

   - Mike
13  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Utah on: April 27, 2017, 08:14:47 pm
We will be in the Jackson area a week before you.  Looking forward to it.  As far as temps in Utah and NM, that's tricky.  Depends on where you'll be going.  Here is some known average data.....

New Mexico average temps in June:

75   37   Eagle Nest
83   47   Taos
84   49   Santa Fe
94   64   Carlsbad
88   62   Albuquerque

Utah average temps in June:

75   45   Bryce Canyon Park Headquarters
89   57   Canyonlands Park, The Needles
86   58   Capitol Reef National Park
93   58   Moab
96   62   Zion National Park

Good luck and safe travels!

  - Mike
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2 AC units in a 2552 on: April 26, 2017, 02:11:34 pm
As far as location of two units on the 2552 I believe one is along the centerline and between the microwave and pantry, the other along the centerline between both beds close to the bathroom door.  Not a huge distance apart, but the two different 'rooms' they serve would provide some noise baffling between the two.

I've tried researching noise levels of different models from different companies and found precious little regarding technical specs or advertised sound levels (actual decibels) Different designs of different brands at different times can have significant impact on noise.  Noise can emanate from motors, fan blades, etc.  On the Coleman Mach 8 15,000 BTU unit, which I have, there were changes made to the fan blades over the recent years which reduced noise.  On other companies units, the diffusers were recently redesigned to reduce noise.  Personally, I think the diffuser makes a huge impact on noise.  Trying to disperse and divert air by pushing it over fins and flaps creates a racket (remove your ceiling diffuser and see the difference)

Knowing as much (or as little) as I do now, I would have specified two non-heatpump units (one 13.5k and one 15k btu) with high CFM rates (they apparently range from 275-350 or so), multiple fan speeds and well engineered diffuser/motor/blade designs.  For us, very low roof profiles (like our Mach 8) or savings of a couple hundred dollars (Dometic) are not as important as good performance and reduced noise.  We like nice sunny weather but aren't terribly comfortable at temps over 100 degrees or at very high humidity levels, so two units would have made us much happier.

   - Mike
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Camp / RV chairs? on: April 26, 2017, 01:15:25 pm
We've settled on the Kamp-Rite Director's Chairs, available at many places.  They are comfortable, can be used as table seating, fairly lightweight, easy to fold/unfold, have a great flip-up side table, can be hung upside down from a ladder rack (like this one:, can be stored in tow vehicle, or stores temporarily behind drivers or passengers seat in our 2552 while underway. 

   - Mike
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