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211  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Jon Stewart comments on ObamaCare... on: November 20, 2013, 11:29:18 pm
Wow...you're a glutton for punishment!   LOL Wonder if I should give you a 'helpful' just for bravery?

 - Mike
212  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Time for a new computer but what? on: November 20, 2013, 08:15:47 pm
I echo Barry.  But from what I understand, besides being super easy to use, the Apple products are awesome with all things audio/video/photo.  Now that u have it, I'm sure you'll find all the amazing Apple software that will do what you want.

Just curious, what do you use your camera gear for?  Wouldn't mind seeing some stuff you've created!

- Mike
213  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Coincidence? on: November 20, 2013, 08:08:39 pm
Shipper: I have a yet-to-be-used trailer hitch....so I might just see if there is indeed a service team inside that trailer!  I'm sure a V10 could haul it, no?

  -Mike
214  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Bear Songs on: November 20, 2013, 08:02:24 pm
Oh, yikes!  As those in my family know, I have a phobia about bears.  Actually anything that can eat you, but bears seem more prevalent in that category.  Gorgeous powerful beasts tho!
215  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Coincidence? on: November 20, 2013, 03:37:48 pm
So, I had to bring my PC to Cordelia RV to take a look at my thermostat (gas heat /electric heat) issue and noticed their repair facility sits by the corner of the streets shown in the pic below.  I'm pretty sure they'll be able to resolve my problem!

- Mike
216  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: At long last - Our PC arrives! on: November 18, 2013, 01:39:27 pm
Holly: I searched the PC forum and didn't see any reference to condensation.  I've seen on other forums that some folks have that problem.  Matter of fact when we made our initial one night trip our neighbor who had a popup type camper van was washing and drying out a pad that he puts under his mattress that collects condensation.  I wouldn't think the 2552 would have that issue (at least on the passenger side) with the airflow grill and all those little heat sources under there.  Maybe the drivers side bed?

Ron: I was thinking about possible replacement materials (wood, composites or even maybe plastics). I know that the pressboard and MDF materials like the existing bed board are generally heavier than most woods, which would be another reason to replace.  I'll be stalking the shelves this week to see what I can find.

- Mike
217  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sanitizing 2552 Water System on: November 17, 2013, 08:39:01 pm
Now there's a potpourri of responses!  All sorts of people and all sorts of lifestyles and ideas.  Gotta love this country!  Thanks to all of you for your input and assistance.

Nicki:

I can appreciate coming from the place with the best water in the country and the probable aversion to anything other.  It's a bit like me living in the Napa area and being spoiled by great wine.  Can't really get my taste buds to appreciate Boone's Farm, Cupcake, Barefoot, etc. anymore.  I guess we are both pretty lucky to live where we do.

We will be using the PC for a significant period of time throughout the year, from boondocking and dry camping to high-end RV resorts.  This is a big reason we chose a Phoenix.  Big enough to spend significant amounts of time comfortably, multiple options for power in and power out, multiple options for water, etc.  Our theory is if we can live like we could (for the most part) in our own home in many places, had the option of living comfortably at levels less than that, and were able to drive it without too much worry, we found the perfect rig.  We think we did.  We also believe that if the rig has a toilet, shower, kitchen, power systems and water systems designed for 'normal use' we will expect them function correctly with normal maintenance and we would use them like as would in our own home to the greatest extent possible.  So, we expect to go #1 and #2 in the toilet and use TP.  We expect that when hooked up to generator or shore power we can run most everything in the rig.  We also expect that we can use either city water or use the potable water tank without much of an issue as we would at home, given proper care and maintenance.  If we couldn't do all that, we wouldn't have spent over $100k for the PC and instead just opted for the best damn tent we could find.  But that's just us...everyone's mileage may (and truly does) vary.  Long-winded way to say we are eager to know how all systems are supposed to work and we will expect them to work if we do our part in maintaining, treating, exercising things.  Sanitizing the tanks and system, and regulating/filtering city water with a good regulator and filter seems standard for ensuring decent water quality and correct pressures.  I don't feel guilty about the water waste in sanitizing the tanks since we plan to use the PC shower almost exclusively, getting in the habit of Navy showers.  We figure we'll save much more water in the long run if we don't use the RV park showers which would make it tempting to take much longer showers.

Since I don't yet know for certain if the tank is included in the sanitizing process using the four way valve, I'm going to use the method everyone mentioned ,with a slight variation on Sparky's apparatus.   I'll use the gravity feed fill connection on the passengers side of the PC, and bring both water and chlorine in at the same time using a siphon (which will bring in the chlorine) attached to the hose, which is attached to city water.  Adjusted correctly for the right ratio, the siphon seems the easiest and least messy way to go.  I'll fill the tank until it flows out the overflow, spray off the side of the PC, turn the pump on, run the faucets and showers, let it sit, drain the tank, refill with fresh water, drain, refill.

And, Holly, again great advice!

Thanks again to you all......even if I don't understand or agree, it keeps the brain cells active!  I'd write more, but I have to go study the PC manual some more....might be something there I missed.   rolling on the floor

- Mike
218  Main Forum / General Discussion / Sanitizing 2552 Water System on: November 17, 2013, 07:09:05 am
Okay, next question.... I've read what I could find regarding sanitizing the fresh water system and am getting ready to do it.  I could only find hints as to how you all actually get the bleach into the system.  I'm assuming that one method is through the winterizing valve by the pump.  I'd like to try what I think is one of the more obvious methods which is through the 'Anderson Kantleak' four function fill station.

I now understand that the four selections on the station and their meanings are:

City Use city water to feed fixtures from 3/4" hose connection.
Normal Pump from the on-board tank to the fixtures using on-board pump.
Tank Pressure fill the tank from 3/4" hose connection at backflow preventer.
Sanitize/Winterize Draw in sanitizers and winterizing fluids from a bucket utilizing the on-board pump.

So, obviously I can sanitize by placing the switch in Sanitize/Winterize position, attach one end of a hose to the hose connection on the fill station, the other into a bucket of sanitizer, and turn on the water pump.

That much seems obvious.  What isn't quite obvious are a couple of things. 

1) Do you first fill the tank with water to some level? Then draw in the bleach, then fill the tank?
2) Do you mix the bleach with water in a bucket when you draw it in?
3) Will any of the liquid/bleach drawn in with the Sanitize/Winterize switch go into the fresh water tank, or just to the pump and then fixtures?

The attached diagram is the reason I asked number 3. It doesn't appear that the water tank is in the loop using Sanitize/Winterize.

Is this the preferred method of getting the bleach in there or is there a better one?

 - Mike
219  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Noisy converter? on: November 16, 2013, 03:57:34 pm
There is an opening on one side of the bed already in my model, but it's the on the end furthest from the inverter.  My ducting literally lays against the inverter (and the converter for that matter, now that I look at it). A very quiet fan, like you said, might be a good solution.  Would have to pretty quiet for some folks though.  I had just enough hearing loss from being in too many engine rooms in my early Navy days so the inverter/converter fans probably wouldn't bother me, but Joni is an amazingly light sleeper.  Don't really want any cranky people in a confined space.   OfftoBed

- Mike


220  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Noisy converter? on: November 16, 2013, 11:16:45 am
Something else to consider.  Not sure how other models are set up, but on the 2552 both the inverter and converter are under the passengers side bed.  My inverter has two tiny fans and the converter has one larger one.  What is interesting is that the inverter fans are located on the bottom of the  inverter unit, and the unit is mounted to the wall of the bed cabinet on the aisle side (the wall toward the interior of the PC not the exterior). There is only about a 3/4 inch gap, maybe less, between the fans and the wall.  I'd have to wonder if it's sufficient for air circulation and may contribute to the fan coming on, or even staying on longer.  That wall that the inverter is mounted on is solid, and not open/screened like one of the panels is on that bed frame wall further aft.  The other thing is that one of the shiny silver furnace ducts is routed directly against the inverter and I would have to believe that with the furnace on it would warm up the inverter to some degree, possibly causing the fan to operate.  Don't have the pictures available right this second, but can post them if requested. 

If I find the inverter fan to be annoying me, I'll probably try to reroute the duct a bit (or place a bit of insulation between it and the inverter) and maybe install a screen on the panel the inverter is mounted to (which may have an opposite effect of making the fan noise more noticeable....but maybe less frequent?)

 - Mike
221  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 12 Volt Charging Station on: November 15, 2013, 10:22:41 pm
Ah!  Probably missed it....gonna hafta look!  Nice!

   - Mike
222  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: At long last - Our PC arrives! on: November 15, 2013, 10:18:36 pm
Yes, those splinters get everywhere!  We are trying to decide whether to spray it or cover it with a thin material (carpet or flooring underlayment maybe...dunno). Nice part about actually going into that compartment is that we now have lotsa extra screws that were just lying about in there just ready to make us nuts as they clanked around going down the road.  Wink

- Mike
223  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: At long last - Our PC arrives! on: November 15, 2013, 09:16:11 pm
Latest update on the no power issue:

We found the problem(s)!  Phoenix didnt install a little jumper wire on the transfer switch that enables the SurgeGuard to operate with both the generator and shore power.  SurgeGuard saw the problem and said nope, no power for you.  I installed the jumper, ran the generator and all was well!  I now have power to all outlets, including microwave.  Yay! 

I didn't have power when hooked up to shore power at the campground because SurgeGuard detected a bad condition (reverse polarity) and again said nope, no power for you (the SurgeGuard unit stores all past faults )

Fairly unlikely to have both generator and shore power conditions at the same time, which made troubleshooting a bit tougher, but after testing both it appears that all is now well......um, except for the problem with the heating and thermostat.  And on that front, I haven't received a new thermostat yet, but further investigation leads me to believe that it was miswired as well.  Everything works well (fan high, fan low, a/c) but if it's turned to gas heat or electric heat, the fuse blows.  A bit difficult to troubleshoot since:  1) the wiring diagram for the furnace has an obvious error in the thermostat section and is missing an important bit of info, 2) the Coleman wiring diagram is doesn't quite describe using this thermostat with a non-heatpump model, and 3) the PC wiring from the back of the thermostat is non standard, undocumented, and there are transitional connections (from PC connections at the thermostat to furnace connections at the furnace) somewhere I can't locate yet.  I'm pretty close, and confident I can locate the problem on Monday after talking to Kermit, Coleman and possibly Atwood.   Least I now gots power! 

- Mike
224  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Bear Songs on: November 15, 2013, 08:52:51 pm
Toooo funny!   LOL  rolling on the floor
225  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 12 Volt Charging Station on: November 15, 2013, 08:49:36 pm
Good info.  When you say you set it up in your cabinet and plug it in, does that mean you are plugging it into the Ford cab dash area outlet, or do you have have one of those outlets installed in your cabinet?

- Mike
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