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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Winterizing on: October 22, 2016, 09:47:36 am
I would add 2 additional steps.  Turn off the 120V circuit breaker for water heater and I blow out the lines for spraying  the gray and black tanks.

As Paul pointed out a good check list is important.  Here is the check list I use to put our PC away for thr winter.
1   Water Heater Breaker OFF (I MARKED IT RED FOR ID)   
2   Water Heater in BYPASS   
3   Drain Water Heater   
4   Drain Fresh Water Tank   
5   Sanitize Fresh Water Hoses   
6   Sanitize Black/Grey Hoses   
7   Add Anti-freeze   
         A.  Kitchen Sink / Sprayer   
         B.  Toilet   
         C.  Bathroom Sink   
         D.  Shower   
         E.  Fill Each Trap   
         F.  Sani-Con   
         G.  Blow out tank flush lines   
         H.  Drain Black & Grey Tanks   
8   Clean A/C Filters   
9   Remove Smoke Detector & Battery   
10   Remove Thermometers & Batteries   
11   Move GPS to Car   
12   Remove Remote Controls   
13   Lubricate Antenna   
14   Lubricate Entry Door   
15   Lubricate Steps   
16   Change Generator Oil   
17   Check Motorhome Air Filter   
18   Condition Diamond Shield   
19   Add Thetford Toilet Seal Conditioner   

We don't have an outside shower

2  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Sofa End Table on: October 21, 2016, 09:04:22 pm

Really nice job!  Can't wait to see you and Joan in Florida this winter.

Barry and Sue
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Factory Tour & Finalizing Option Choices on: October 11, 2016, 08:54:41 pm
   We owned a 2008 2350 and now a 2012 2551.  Here is a list of some of our changes

   What we learned from the 2350 that carried over to the 2551.

1.   Fully body paint - had it and still wanted it.  Our 2350 (brown in color with cherry cabinets) looked better then new when we sold it.  We choose the Classic Umbre with cherry for the 2551.
2.   Leveling jacks - had them and loved them so ordered again.
3.   Premium Convenience package - had and kept it in the new one.
4.   Insulated Glass - had it and loved it so ordered again.
5.   Slide out - had it and loved it so ordered again.
6.   Leather captain chairs - had it and loved it so ordered again.
7.   Window treatments - we had all the window treatments the same in the 2350 so kept them that way for the 2551.  8.   No carpet - didn't have it in the 2350 and didn't order it in the 2551. Very easy to wash rugs or buy new ones.
9.   No coffee pot - didn't have it and didn't miss it.
10.  Side flip up counter extension is made from the same material as the counter top and not wood.
11.  Cut the sink cover.
12.  Did not order the TV, DVD or sound package (just prep work for TV).  We installed a Visio TV on a swivel, a DVR and a sound bar.  

Things we actually changed from the 2350

1.  No ladder or roof rack - never used it and like the look without.  It would fit in the garage either way.  
2.  No hooks or hangers installed in rear storage compartment - we wanted to organize it ourselves.  
3.  No mirror by stove - we want to add a metal bar so that our magnetized paper towel holder will hang there
4.  Driver seat swivel - we had the power seat on the 2350 and never used it so we opted to have the driver seat swivel instead just like the passenger seat.  
5.  Access doors under driver side bed.
6.  Adjustable shelf in cabinet above the toilet.
7.  No outside shower - never used it on the 2350 except to winterize it so we won't miss it on the 2551.  Why have the opening in the side wall when it isn't needed.
8.  No hanger bars in shirt closets.  Converted the shirt closet in the 2350 and added shelves so PC offered to add movable shelves to the 2551.
9.  Reversed hinges on passenger side shirt closet so to have easier access for kitchen items. Should have done this on the 2350.
10.  Motion light on outside.
11.  Max air fan in place of fantastic fan in bedroom area.
12.  Don't mount fire extinguisher - we moved it in the 2350 so will do the same.
13.  Do not install shower head holder - we installed two in the 2350 and will do the same .  One for me and one for the DW.
14.  Ordered larger cabinets above the winged areas like PC puts in the 3100.  Just more storage.
15.  Ordered a driver side flip table like the passenger side table.  Used this all the time in the 2350 so thought we would like one on each side. The cabinet top was a great place for ipod radio, pictures, battery powered candle etc...
16.  Added a 12 volt plug in bathroom for any 12 volt bath items.
17.  Cover for sink in bathroom.

Our 2551 is perfect of us.  We spend 4 - 5 months a year living in it and we wouldn't change much except instead of the fantastic fan in the kitchen area we would have another max air like in the bedroom area.  

Barry and Sue
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery explosion on: October 11, 2016, 03:43:10 pm

The things to look at in the step operation.  There are several things that would prevent the steps from working properly.  

1.  With the door open and  looking into the PC there is a plunger type switch in the lower right hand corner.  Check this switch to make sure the plunger moves freely and is not corroded.  The contacts within the switch may be dirty.  Rotating/spinning the plunger will usually clean the contacts.  I have found this to be the most common cause of step problems for me.

2.  The adjustable bold/nut mounted in the door that activates the plunger may need to be adjusted.    It can be adjusted in or out a little to change how far the plunger is pushed in.  This causes the contacts to meet at a slightly different point and might help if the contacts within the switch are worn and dirty.

Time to dive under the PC.

3.  The switch from step 1 is mounted in the door frame and a large portion is outside the PC and  exposed to the elements.  Check for corrosion on the switch and wires.

4.  The step mechanism is also exposed to the elements.  Check to make sure all the pivot points move freely and nothing is binding.  Lubricate if necessary.  I personally use CLP (available at Wal-Mart in sporting goods department) and I stay away from WD40.

5.  The last thing to check is the van battery.  Make sure it is fully charged and in good operating order.

Here is a link to Kwikee Step Manual -

5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flourescent Bulbs don't fit on: September 10, 2016, 02:16:41 pm
John and Holly

If you are close to the Cherry Hill Campground in College Park Maryland,  they have a great RV supply store.  You could take a bulb/tube in there and see if one measures just like it.
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flourescent Bulbs don't fit on: September 10, 2016, 10:17:52 am
We replaced a few of ours and bought them at camping world.  We paid $9.96 and that included tax for a 2-pack.  We have seen them at many of the local RV stores since we purchased ours but we were on the road and camping world was all there was.  Ours are F8T5CW.  The brand name is CEC.  We did notice that different brands on line are slightly longer and would not fit.  Ours from camping world fit perfectly.

7  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Dead battery salvation on: September 02, 2016, 03:25:03 pm
Here is a link to a previous post about dead chassis battery and solution.,1103.0.html

Hope this will be of some help.


8  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: August 30, 2016, 04:09:25 pm
I see you are planning a trip around Michigan.  In case you have a little time to explore, here is a link to some interesting destinations in Michigan:

9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane on: August 29, 2016, 03:50:58 pm
We have had several problems with our refrigerator over the years and the Service Manual has proven to be invaluable.

Here is a link to the Norcold service manual for several refrigerator models.

The refrigerator in our 2012 2551 is Model Number N621 hopefully it is the same model in your 2010 2551.  The section in the Service Manual tilted "N62X/N82X DISPLAYED FAULT CODES" provides a good troubleshooting flow chart based upon the error code you are getting.  This might be a good starting place to help you clear this problem.

10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Closing front curtains on: August 17, 2016, 12:37:29 pm

Keep playing with those curtains, they will get easier.  I also took the plastic rods off and just pull each side by holding onto the curtain.

11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Progressive Industries EMS in a 2552 on: August 16, 2016, 04:49:27 pm
The EMS is designed to monitor the incoming voltage and protect the electric devices within the PC.  The transfer switch is just a relay that operates when the generator is running and does not require any type of protection.

Here is a link to the Transfer Switch Operation Manual:

The installation can easily be done after the fact.  The 10AWG wire is stiff but is manageable.

12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Exterior Paint on: August 10, 2016, 06:08:53 pm
That is the great thing about Phoenix Cruiser.  You can negotiate with them on anything.  They will do their best to please you.  If they can't do it they will tell you.

We met a PC owner recently and they wanted full body paint without any swirls or swashes and that's what they got.  It also did not have any name on the cap.  So don't be afraid to ask.

13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Closing front curtains on: August 09, 2016, 09:14:57 pm
I don't sew....although, I guess you could sew a few hook tabs by hand down one of the strips

You could check with a local tailor.  This would be a two minute job and they might do it very cheap.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Closing front curtains on: August 09, 2016, 05:54:11 pm

I actually moved the plastic straps to the bottom of the curtains.  There is a screw there just like in the center.  It is much easier to reclose them with the plastic straps at the bottom.  I also sewed in an extra piece of curtain since our seats both rotate and I wanted to use the seats at night with the curtains closed.  Even with that extra piece of curtain it is still easy to reclose with the plastic straps. 

I also like the way they look with the straps at the bottom.  It keeps them very neat from top to bottom.

15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Progressive Industries EMS in a 2552 on: August 09, 2016, 03:26:45 pm
The EMS can be installed before the transfer switch (monitors only shore power) or after the transfer switch (monitors shore power and generator power).  I installed after the transfer switch so that both shore and generator power are monitored.

I did not like the constant flashing light so I mounted the monitor under the passenger bed.  I need to lift just the corner of my mattress to see the monitor but it is no big deal.  I am thinking about moving the monitor to the inside of the cabinet below the sink but it has not gone beyond the thinking stage.

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