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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 28, 2016, 07:56:10 pm

Just did a visual inspection and it looks to be at least an inch lower than the AC.  I'll pull out the ladder tomorrow and take an actual measurement.  Don't forget, we are on a 2551.  The vent cover on ours sits in the front of the AC.

We have had no problem with high winds.  The only reported problems I've heard were from people who stored their units in the sun year round.  They say after about 5 years the sun weakens the plastic and they've had to replace them.  But at $23 it was no big deal to them.  
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 28, 2016, 06:49:25 pm
how the wind catches underneath the cover when it is open, lifting and dropping it

We have a Maxxair in our bedroom area of the 2551 and find it to be an excellent product for all the reasons that Fred mentioned.  We have the standard bathroom vent in in the bath area and from day one installed a vent cover over it so we can use it while raining.  It works great for a bathroom fan.

In the galley area we have the Fantastic fan.  We did a modification on it so that it has bidirectional air flow.  This works great.  We were always forgetting to close the vent cover and then stress about rain.  We did not want to order the Fantastic vent cover for two reason, one because it requires drilling into the roof of the PC and two it was a bit pricey.  Since the cover over the bathroom room fan works so great we ordered one for the Fantastic fan.  This is the one we ordered  We ordered it in white so as not to darken the galley area.  It does not allow the fan cover to be opened fully but actually you can open the cover even more so then the Maxxair.  It has air flow on all three sides of the fan and it stops the wind from catching underneath it thus eliminating the clunking noise as Ron mentions.  Plus, no more stress about leaving it open in the rain.
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rear stableizer on: November 22, 2016, 03:37:48 pm

The term sway bar and track bar are sometimes used interchangeably, however, they address two separate issues.  As Randal stated the track bar is designed to "limit lateral movement between the chassis frame rails and drive train".  This lateral movement is usually felt when large trucks pass or with high/gusty side winds.  The sway bar is designed to limit body roll in turns or curves.  Replacing a standard sway bar with a heavy duty sway bar may help in turns but will do little or nothing to limit this lateral movement.

We had a 2008 2350 that had a lot of lateral movement.  This lateral movement was virtually eliminated after installing a Blue Ox Track Bar.

34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Is the rear bed on the 2350 big enough? Any 2350s in Los Angeles area? on: November 20, 2016, 08:10:20 am
Hi John,

We are on our second PC.  We had a 2008 2350 and now a 2012 2551.  

We spend 4-5 months in our unit depending on our travels.  A minimum of 3 months in the winter months.  The main reason we sold the 2350 was the bed.  We are 5'11" (175 lbs) and 5'1" (105 lbs).  There were many restless nights in that bed because of the size.  You are right the overall size seems like it would work but being surrounded by three and a half walls made it difficult for us to move around.  We were always banging into the walls and getting in and out of that bed was also a challenge.

The second reason was the size of the bathroom.  There is very little room to move around in the bathroom as well.

We have found the ideal size for us has been the 2551.  A 2552 would be nice as well-but the 2551 fits in our garage.

35  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2100 Pictures on: November 05, 2016, 12:25:06 pm

If using the chassis saver just make sure to not get it on anything except for what you want to paint.  It is awesome stuff but adheres to anything including your skin. We do not use it on anything with moving parts because it bonds the metals together. It works like your Home Depot guy describes.
36  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2100 Pictures on: November 04, 2016, 06:09:29 pm
My biggest challenge is rust and crud on the tow bar and jacks but we didn't clean those as much as we should have.

Our hitch was looking rusty no matter how much we cleaned it.  Summer of 2014 we painted it with "Chassis Saver" and then put a top coat of rustoleum on it.  Today it still looks brand new.  We don't want to do the jacks because of all the moving parts.

Here are the before and after pictures of the hitch:


37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: StowAway screen door. on: November 02, 2016, 06:43:35 pm

Phoenix made the change in 2008.  We had the same latch system on our 2008 that we have on our 2012.  When we went to the factory in 2008 it was one of the things they pointed out to us as a change from 2007.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roadside assistance plan on: October 31, 2016, 01:43:10 pm
We use the Hartford through AARP.  We have been with them for at least 15+years.  The motorhome is insured all year at a very reasonable rate and recently they added Speciality Coverage for Motor Homes without any rate change.
The benefits they added are:
1.  Emergency towing services to the nearest qualified repair facility
2.  $1,000 emergency expenses for housing, travel and returning your RV to you
3.  $750 transportation expense for car rental, bus, train etc
4.  Total theft coverage
5.  $1,000 fire department services
6.  $2,500 utility trailer coverage
7.  Full-timers coverage if you don't have homeowners coverage for your personal belongings.

We have used our AAA membership in the past on several occasions for flat tires and without exception it was great!  We have not had to use the Hartford to this point but know it is available if necessary.  They will also dispatch for flat tire, out of gas, battery jump or being locked out.
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Upgrading Ford factory radio sterio on: October 28, 2016, 02:00:25 pm
On another line, I believe I have a posting problem on this forum.  1st of all, I do not get email notifications of my postings. Others I do.  2ndly, I do not see my postings in the "Show unread posts since last visit".  I probably don't have something setup correctly.

If you go to the profile section there is an option to turn notifications and email on.

Select profile
Select Modify profile
Select Notification and Email

Now if you check the third choice down it is to turn notifications on when you post or reply to a topic.

If you are looking for a reply to a specific topic, when viewing that topic select the NOTIFY field at the top of the page.  This will ask you if you want notifications for just that particular topic.

Hopefully this gets you the emails you are looking for.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Winterizing on: October 22, 2016, 09:47:36 am
I would add 2 additional steps.  Turn off the 120V circuit breaker for water heater and I blow out the lines for spraying  the gray and black tanks.

As Paul pointed out a good check list is important.  Here is the check list I use to put our PC away for thr winter.
1   Water Heater Breaker OFF (I MARKED IT RED FOR ID)   
2   Water Heater in BYPASS   
3   Drain Water Heater   
4   Drain Fresh Water Tank   
5   Sanitize Fresh Water Hoses   
6   Sanitize Black/Grey Hoses   
7   Add Anti-freeze   
         A.  Kitchen Sink / Sprayer   
         B.  Toilet   
         C.  Bathroom Sink   
         D.  Shower   
         E.  Fill Each Trap   
         F.  Sani-Con   
         G.  Blow out tank flush lines   
         H.  Drain Black & Grey Tanks   
8   Clean A/C Filters   
9   Remove Smoke Detector & Battery   
10   Remove Thermometers & Batteries   
11   Move GPS to Car   
12   Remove Remote Controls   
13   Lubricate Antenna   
14   Lubricate Entry Door   
15   Lubricate Steps   
16   Change Generator Oil   
17   Check Motorhome Air Filter   
18   Condition Diamond Shield   
19   Add Thetford Toilet Seal Conditioner   

We don't have an outside shower

41  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Sofa End Table on: October 21, 2016, 09:04:22 pm

Really nice job!  Can't wait to see you and Joan in Florida this winter.

Barry and Sue
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Factory Tour & Finalizing Option Choices on: October 11, 2016, 08:54:41 pm
   We owned a 2008 2350 and now a 2012 2551.  Here is a list of some of our changes

   What we learned from the 2350 that carried over to the 2551.

1.   Fully body paint - had it and still wanted it.  Our 2350 (brown in color with cherry cabinets) looked better then new when we sold it.  We choose the Classic Umbre with cherry for the 2551.
2.   Leveling jacks - had them and loved them so ordered again.
3.   Premium Convenience package - had and kept it in the new one.
4.   Insulated Glass - had it and loved it so ordered again.
5.   Slide out - had it and loved it so ordered again.
6.   Leather captain chairs - had it and loved it so ordered again.
7.   Window treatments - we had all the window treatments the same in the 2350 so kept them that way for the 2551.  8.   No carpet - didn't have it in the 2350 and didn't order it in the 2551. Very easy to wash rugs or buy new ones.
9.   No coffee pot - didn't have it and didn't miss it.
10.  Side flip up counter extension is made from the same material as the counter top and not wood.
11.  Cut the sink cover.
12.  Did not order the TV, DVD or sound package (just prep work for TV).  We installed a Visio TV on a swivel, a DVR and a sound bar.  

Things we actually changed from the 2350

1.  No ladder or roof rack - never used it and like the look without.  It would fit in the garage either way.  
2.  No hooks or hangers installed in rear storage compartment - we wanted to organize it ourselves.  
3.  No mirror by stove - we want to add a metal bar so that our magnetized paper towel holder will hang there
4.  Driver seat swivel - we had the power seat on the 2350 and never used it so we opted to have the driver seat swivel instead just like the passenger seat.  
5.  Access doors under driver side bed.
6.  Adjustable shelf in cabinet above the toilet.
7.  No outside shower - never used it on the 2350 except to winterize it so we won't miss it on the 2551.  Why have the opening in the side wall when it isn't needed.
8.  No hanger bars in shirt closets.  Converted the shirt closet in the 2350 and added shelves so PC offered to add movable shelves to the 2551.
9.  Reversed hinges on passenger side shirt closet so to have easier access for kitchen items. Should have done this on the 2350.
10.  Motion light on outside.
11.  Max air fan in place of fantastic fan in bedroom area.
12.  Don't mount fire extinguisher - we moved it in the 2350 so will do the same.
13.  Do not install shower head holder - we installed two in the 2350 and will do the same .  One for me and one for the DW.
14.  Ordered larger cabinets above the winged areas like PC puts in the 3100.  Just more storage.
15.  Ordered a driver side flip table like the passenger side table.  Used this all the time in the 2350 so thought we would like one on each side. The cabinet top was a great place for ipod radio, pictures, battery powered candle etc...
16.  Added a 12 volt plug in bathroom for any 12 volt bath items.
17.  Cover for sink in bathroom.

Our 2551 is perfect of us.  We spend 4 - 5 months a year living in it and we wouldn't change much except instead of the fantastic fan in the kitchen area we would have another max air like in the bedroom area.  

Barry and Sue
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery explosion on: October 11, 2016, 03:43:10 pm

The things to look at in the step operation.  There are several things that would prevent the steps from working properly.  

1.  With the door open and  looking into the PC there is a plunger type switch in the lower right hand corner.  Check this switch to make sure the plunger moves freely and is not corroded.  The contacts within the switch may be dirty.  Rotating/spinning the plunger will usually clean the contacts.  I have found this to be the most common cause of step problems for me.

2.  The adjustable bold/nut mounted in the door that activates the plunger may need to be adjusted.    It can be adjusted in or out a little to change how far the plunger is pushed in.  This causes the contacts to meet at a slightly different point and might help if the contacts within the switch are worn and dirty.

Time to dive under the PC.

3.  The switch from step 1 is mounted in the door frame and a large portion is outside the PC and  exposed to the elements.  Check for corrosion on the switch and wires.

4.  The step mechanism is also exposed to the elements.  Check to make sure all the pivot points move freely and nothing is binding.  Lubricate if necessary.  I personally use CLP (available at Wal-Mart in sporting goods department) and I stay away from WD40.

5.  The last thing to check is the van battery.  Make sure it is fully charged and in good operating order.

Here is a link to Kwikee Step Manual -

44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flourescent Bulbs don't fit on: September 10, 2016, 02:16:41 pm
John and Holly

If you are close to the Cherry Hill Campground in College Park Maryland,  they have a great RV supply store.  You could take a bulb/tube in there and see if one measures just like it.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flourescent Bulbs don't fit on: September 10, 2016, 10:17:52 am
We replaced a few of ours and bought them at camping world.  We paid $9.96 and that included tax for a 2-pack.  We have seen them at many of the local RV stores since we purchased ours but we were on the road and camping world was all there was.  Ours are F8T5CW.  The brand name is CEC.  We did notice that different brands on line are slightly longer and would not fit.  Ours from camping world fit perfectly.

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