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31  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Pleated Front Curtain on: November 04, 2014, 12:28:30 pm
Like Ron, we too have found the pleated curtains to be very manageable.  When we had our 2008 2350 we could never use the swivel front passenger seat at night when the curtains were drawn since they were too short and too stiff to accommodate the seat being swiveled.

When we ordered our 2012 2551 we requested an extra curtain panel to allow us enough curtain to accommodate both the driver and passenger seat being swiveled. We only needed about a third of that curtain so I cut it and sewed it into the existing curtain to give us more fabric to go around the seat. It has worked great and it allows us to use both seats at night with the curtain closed. Since the curtain is larger on the drivers side I had to move the straps from the middle to the bottom screw to accommodate the new thickness. It actually worked out better for us and now the curtain doesn't flare out on the bottom when in the stored position.  The pleats remain in a folded position and the curtain is now very easy to operate.  We find that it cuts down a lot of the cold air and can comfortably sit in these seats at any time.


32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling our 2551 mattresses on: October 30, 2014, 11:24:23 am
Johnny and Vicki

I have sold all kinds of things on CRAIGSLIST including the sofa and the factory radio out of our 2551.  It is easy to establish a listing and there is no need to create an account.  As with anything on the internet you must be careful and watch out for scammers.

Here is a link to CRAIGSLIST.ORG help page:

The help page on "how to post" will guide you through the process.

33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another New Model Being Offered, The 2450 on: October 28, 2014, 10:36:38 pm

The units without a dinette come with a tabletop and spider legs.  It is very easy to setup and take down and stores very nice.

34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another New Model Being Offered, The 2450 on: October 28, 2014, 03:58:01 pm

How is a wall like a roof?  

If you don't like where it is move it. LOL rolling on the floor

35  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Traveling with Safe Plumbing in Winter on: October 18, 2014, 08:16:29 am

 A couple of other things I thought about:

1.  You asked about keeping the hot water tank on and running the furnace-we do this all the time with no issues

2.  The outside shower-my thought there would be to winterize the rig and just dewinterize inside plumbing.  Why I say this is that we had to winterize when we came home from FL this past spring since it was still very cold here.  When we went camping for a weekend in June I thought I had dewinterized everything but when we went out in August I realized I never dewinterized the toilet sprayer or kitchen sink sprayer.  When I went to use them they were still filled with antifreeze.  We don't have an outside shower but I am sure if we did that would have still been filled with antifreeze.

3.  I carry a lot of the 8 ounce bottles of water under the passenger bed in the 2551 and we do not keep the furnace on when traveling and they have never frozen.  Our furnace does not run very much at night because we set it very low, our bedding keeps us very warm.

36  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Traveling with Safe Plumbing in Winter on: October 17, 2014, 07:35:09 pm

     We travel to Florida every winter from Michigan so our first two days are usually below freezing.  However, we are fully winterized until we get into Georgia and then once there we dewinterize.  I do use the toilet the first two days.  Since I do not have running water I always carry a jug of water to use when I flush.  I am guessing because we have antifreeze in the black tank we never have had a problem with the toilet or black tank and we have never used the heaters in the tanks.

Make sure all the water is drained from the fresh water hoses  and the fresh water filter, if you use one, before you store them.

37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Do I Need A New Sanicon Macerator? on: October 17, 2014, 06:36:06 pm

Thetford Customer Service (800-543-1219) has a very simple procedure to disassemble the macerator pump. If you call them they will walk you through the process.  Once disassembled the impeller can be inspected and replaced if necessary.


38  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Hello from Myrtle Beach on: October 09, 2014, 05:03:01 pm
Ron, I couldn't help myself.

Here is one of our worst winter days.  The cloudbank is obscuring an otherwise beautiful sun set.

39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Composting Toilet on: October 07, 2014, 09:09:30 pm

We had a 2008 2350 and the black holding tank was directly under the toilet (drivers side rear). 

40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2013 model 2551 12 volt batteries OK? on: October 06, 2014, 07:46:08 pm

Tom is 100% correct.  If you had 2 6V batteries they would have been wired in series ( neg  to pos) . This would give you 12V total (6V + 6V).   If they installed 2 12v batteries and wired them in series (neg to pos) you would now have 24V (12v +12V).  A quick check with a volt meter or a visual inspection should be able to determine if the batteries are wired in series (correct for 6V batteries) or in parallel (correct for 12V batteries).

Here is a link to a website that talks about wiring battieries in series/parallel and why.

41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: F-550 on: October 03, 2014, 07:43:09 pm
We went to a RV show today and saw a couple of rv's built on the F550 chassis.  They look very impressive.  There were a couple of things that I noticed that might be of interest to future buyers.

1.  The front of the F550 is between 2-3 feet longer than the E450.

2.  The living area of motorhome sits a lot higher on the F550 than on the E450.  This results in the cab area being well below the floor of the living area.  I started to get into the driver's seat from inside the motorhome and quickly changed my mind.  There just did not seem to have any place to put my feet or any good handholds.

42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Disappointing gas mileage on: September 28, 2014, 09:20:11 am
Rose and Earl

Ron presents some very good points.

We had a 2008 2350 with slide on an E350 chassis and over the first 10,000 miles of usage we averaged 9.98 miles per gallon.

Some of the things we found that help the mileage:

1.  Maintain good tire pressure.  Good is hard to define.  The tires need to be inflated enough to carry the load but not so much as to cause a rough ride and excessive tire wear.

2.  A clean air filter helps .  I added a K&N air filter primarily to increase time between filter changes.

3.   Starting and stopping  in heavy traffic or at stop lights destroys the mileage. 

4.  When towing I usually maintain about 60-62 MPH.

5.  Hills will also greatly affect mileage.  I found that if I am able to keep my speed in the 60+ range I can climb a lot of hills without having the transmission down shift.

On a separate issue the Ford V10 used in some if not all Class A's is slightly different than the V10 used in an E350 Class C.  The Class A would have a 3 valve configuration and the Class C would have a 2 value.  I do not know if this was the case in your previous Class A.

43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: TOWING on: September 27, 2014, 08:16:17 pm
Welcome Dale and Cindy!!!

As far as checking to see if you can tow your 2005 Hyundia Santa Fe, look first in you owners manual.  They usually will tell you if you can flat tow (4 down) a vehicle.

Next search online for the dinghy towing guide.  I looked at It does not list your vehicle as one that can be flat towed.  Every year motorhome magazine publishes the dinghy towing guide and these can be found online.

But most important is to check the towing capacity of your RV as well as what your hitch is rated to tow.  Phoenix gives you the details about what the GVWR and GCWR for Sprinter.  Then you need to look at the CCC which is on the yellow sticker of the doorframe.  You cannot exceed any of these ratings.   A Hyundai Santa Fe weighs in at 3549 so that has to be calculated into your weights and since you would need a tow dolly that would be another approximately 1000 pounds.

Remco also does a very good job at identifying what vehicles can be towed and how.

44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper on: September 21, 2014, 04:24:08 pm
We had a 2008 2350, with slide with a couch and, yes there were seat belts for the couch!

45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Length of 2450. Bumper to bumper on: September 17, 2014, 10:56:21 pm

  I think a 2450 is a great coach, I just wanted you to see that you can swivel both chairs in a Ford chassis.  Our 2551 is built on a Ford.

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