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541  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 07, 2013, 09:00:14 am
I am a new member who is about to order my first RV - a PC 2350.

Welcome to the forum!!

Our first motorhome was a 2008 2350 - we had a travel trailer for 5 years prior.  We chose the 2350 (with slide) for its length and what we thought we would be comfortable with traveling across the country.  We owned it for three years and now have a 2012 2551.

Being that we lived it in for three to four months at a time we found the 2350 too small for our needs.  The corner bed was not ideal for us and storage for cold and warm season clothing was lacking.  The bathroom seemed to shrink day by day.

We love our 2551 (with slide).  We are very comfortable for months at a time and storage for everything is ideal for us.

We also disagree with Ron about the antenna.  We have no noise rattling on the roof when we drive and we use the antenna all the time.  Many times we do not even have to extend it and get an excellent TV signal.  The only time we do not get a signal is if we are in a very rural/remote area.  Also, many people forget to scan their TV for signals when they move to a different area.  That is the first thing I do when we get somewhere.  Turn the TV on, position and turn on the antenna, scan for channels and by the time I have everything else set up we can watch TV.

We have the insulated windows as well.

We also did not require any extra seating besides the couch so we opted to have extra cabinets built into the 2350 instead of the barrel chair that PC used to install.  In our 2551 we had both the passenger chair and drivers seat swivel.  Remember, PC will try to accomodate your requests so think of everything you want prior to ordering.  Don't limit yourself to the options in the model you are looking at.

Hopefully you have had a chance to walk through a few of the models in FL before you order.  Or travel to Elkhart, order your PC and have them deliver to you.

542  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: PC Twin Beds ... what a pain on: June 06, 2013, 12:52:34 pm
Very nice Barb!!!

543  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Pics of 2350 sprinter (no slide) on: June 05, 2013, 09:57:05 pm
It's great to see it come together.  Hope your wait is nearly over.

544  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning configuration on: June 01, 2013, 07:55:39 am

   We had the manual one with our 2008 model.  Brackets did come with the coach but PC did not install them but just gave them to us to either install ourselves or leave off.  We never did install them.    I would call PC and see if they still have any brackets left from the older style (manual) awning.  We did use the awning on the 2008 but very sparingly.  Even though it is suppose to be a very good awning we never got used to it since we were used to the one on our travel trailer. 

545  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New members looking for advice on: May 31, 2013, 10:15:51 am
Jerry and Judy

I sent you a private message with my thoughts.

546  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Comforters or blankets for twin beds on: May 30, 2013, 05:40:18 pm

The twin blankets are wide at 60 inches but since the mattresses are so easy to handle I put them on so that the excess is even on both sides for the overhang and then I just fold them under the mattress.  Very easy and they work great as long as they are nice soft blankets.  I use the ever soft fleece blanket from J C Penney in a twin size and we love them. 

547  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Comforters or blankets for twin beds on: May 30, 2013, 04:13:39 pm
We carry both a blanket and a comforter for the 2551.  I bought twin blankets for each bed and a full size comforter that I cut in half and then stitched up the side.  The blankets I got at J C Penney and are very soft and light weight and the comforter I paid $26 at Target.  It is very light weight as well and works great.   Most of the time we do not need the comforter but it makes the beds look very nice during the day.  There have been times on a cold night or morning that the comforter does come in handy.  

548  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Check my understanding of battery voltage status on: May 27, 2013, 07:16:32 pm
Bruce and Sharon

Here is some information about the charge level of a battery.  You would need a digital volt meter to get an accurate measurement when you measure at the battery terminals.

The State of Charge (SOC) measures the available capacity of a battery and is expressed as a percentage. State of Charge is rated from 0-100%, with 100% representing a fully charged battery and 0% representing a fully discharged battery.

Below is a SOC reference chart for terminal voltage readings for a 12V lead acid battery at 80 degrees Fahrenheit:

Percent      12V Battery
of Charge   Voltage

100      12.70
 95      12.64
 90      12.58
 85      12.52
 80      12.46
 75      12.40
 70      12.36
 65      12.32
 60      12.28
 55      12.24
 50      12.20
 45      12.16
 40      12.12
 35      12.08
 30      12.04
 25      12.00
 20      11.98
 15      11.96
 10      11.94
  5      11.92
  0      11.90

549  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: SUMMER PROJECTS II on: May 26, 2013, 01:59:45 pm

When we had the 2350 (corner bed) I actually sewed in an angle on the fitted sheet and it was nice and tight (sorry I do not have any pictures).    The other thing I did was sewed in hospital corners on the top sheet and attached it to the bottom sheet so we always had nicely fitted sheets.


550  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New summer projects. on: May 26, 2013, 09:25:58 am

Microwave - we have never replaced the microwave but I think there are just a few cautions when doing so.  I would check the input and output power to make sure that it does not draw too much.  All microwaves are different in their input and output.  The other thing is the ventilation.  You just have to make sure there is adequate ventilation around the microwave and then either side vented out, roof vented out or possibly front vented out.  Finally, can it be mounted to fit in the same space.  I have read "ADS" for the RV microwave that say they can withstand the vibrations of travel but who knows if this is just advertisement.  On many ofthe RV forums I have read of people using the "home" microwaves but we have never had to replace one.

Roof - The folks at the factory walk all over the roof and they say it is fine to do so.  Doug from PC has been up on ours a few times to fix some caulking.

Fan Covers - We have the fan covers over two of our three fans.  Work great and will be adding one to the third fan.  After leaving the uncovered one open one night during an unexpected rain we will be adding a cover over it.  They are really  easy to install.

Barry and Sue
551  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex 1800 on: May 26, 2013, 09:17:06 am

Here is the 120V and 12V panels from our 2012 2551.  Can't be sure yours is the same but it is a good place to start.

120V CB Panel

1.  120V Receptacle
2.  Water Heater
3.  Microwave   
4.  Roof Air   
5.  Inverter (To Inverter)   
30 AMP Main Disconnect (Shore Power or Generator)
20 AMP main Disconnect (Inverter Power From Inverter)
1.  120V Receptacle (Inverter Powered)
2.  Television (Inverter Powered)
3.  Vacant (Inverter Powered)
4.  Vacant (Inverter Powered

12V Fuse Panel

1.  Tank Heater
2.  Driver Side Lights and Livingroom Fan
3.  Passenger Side Lights and Bedroom Fan
4.  Coach Rear Lights and Bathroom Fan
5.  Water Pump
6.  Water Heater/Refrigerator
7.  Antenna/Awning
8.  12V Bath Outlet (Added by factory during build)
9.  O2/Propane Detectors
10. Vacant
11. Vacant

552  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 25, 2013, 08:52:15 am
     Love your pictures from your trips.  Two of my favortie places - the Grand Canyon and Zion NP.  We did the hike to Havasu Falls.  Absolutley beautiful!  We actually stayed in the lodge in Supai.  It was 28 miles in three days.  A trip of a lifetime!!

553  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical question an inverter on: May 23, 2013, 09:16:24 am
Here is some information I found to help define the type of battery you might want.  I personally like Interstate batteries.  The batteries that came with both of our PCs were Marine batteries.  When I need to replace them I will go with Interstate Deep Cycle batteries.  When we had a travel trailer we had an Interstate Deep Cycle battery and it never gave us any problems.

Starting, Marine, or Deep-Cycle Batteries

Starting (sometimes called SLI, for starting, lighting, ignition) batteries are commonly used to start and run engines. Engine starters need a very large starting current for a very short time. Starting batteries have a large number of thin plates for maximum surface area. The plates are composed of a Lead "sponge", similar in appearance to a very fine foam sponge. This gives a very large surface area, but if deep cycled, this sponge will quickly be consumed and fall to the bottom of the cells. Automotive batteries will generally fail after 30-150 deep cycles if deep cycled, while they may last for thousands of cycles in normal starting use (2-5% discharge).

Deep cycle batteries are designed to be discharged down as much as 80% time after time, and have much thicker plates. The major difference between a true deep cycle battery and others is that the plates are SOLID Lead plates - not sponge. This gives less surface area, thus less "instant" power like starting batteries need. Although these can be cycled down to 20% charge, the best lifespan vs cost method is to keep the average cycle at about 50% discharge. Unfortunately, it is often impossible to tell what you are really buying in some of the discount stores or places that specialize in automotive batteries. The golf car battery is quite popular for small systems and RV's. The problem is that "golf car" refers to a size of battery case (commonly called GC-2, or T-105), not the type or construction - so the quality and construction of a golf car battery can vary considerably - ranging from the cheap off brand with thin plates up to true deep cycle brands, such as Crown, Deka, Trojan, etc. In general, you get what you pay for.

Marine batteries are usually a "hybrid", and fall between the starting and deep-cycle batteries, though a few (Rolls-Surrette and Concorde, for example) are true deep cycle. In the hybrid, the plates may be composed of Lead sponge, but it is coarser and heavier than that used in starting batteries. It is often hard to tell what you are getting in a "marine" battery, but most are a hybrid. Starting batteries are usually rated at "CCA", or cold cranking amps, or "MCA", Marine cranking amps - the same as "CA". Any battery with the capacity shown in CA or MCA may or may not be a true deep-cycle battery. It is sometimes hard to tell, as the term deep cycle is often overused - we have even seen the term "deep cycle" used in automotive starting battery advertising. CA and MCA ratings are at 32 degrees F, while CCA is at zero degree F. Unfortunately, the only positive way to tell with some batteries is to buy one and cut it open - not much of an option.

554  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another season on the road and the inverter is not working on: May 19, 2013, 08:09:13 pm

    I was also thinking, and this happened to me on more than one occasion--I thought I was in the "use" position because the red light was on but in essence I had plugged it in and did not put the button in the use position so I was not charging my batteries.  The red light was only on because I was plugged in.

555  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another season on the road and the inverter is not working on: May 19, 2013, 07:52:23 pm

The first thing I would do is to get a volt meter and measure the voltage right at the coach batteries (not the van battery).
If the reading is less than 12 volts then the battery is not being charged or there is excessive corrosion on the leads or there is a lose connection.
To check for charging the battery, connect to shore power, make sure the store switch is in the operate position, and then measure voltage at the battery.  This will ensure that you are indeed charging the battery.  You should read about 13+ volts.

Also check to see if there are any blown fuses (12 volt) in the convereter.

This is what I would do to start troubleshooting this problem.  Let us know what you find or if you have other quesstions.

Just for your info - I went out to our coach and tested the inverter and I read a full 13.0 when I press the green button.  I'm pretty sure that this is what the inverter sees as the coach battery voltage.

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