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541  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex 1800 on: May 26, 2013, 09:17:06 am

Here is the 120V and 12V panels from our 2012 2551.  Can't be sure yours is the same but it is a good place to start.

120V CB Panel

1.  120V Receptacle
2.  Water Heater
3.  Microwave   
4.  Roof Air   
5.  Inverter (To Inverter)   
30 AMP Main Disconnect (Shore Power or Generator)
20 AMP main Disconnect (Inverter Power From Inverter)
1.  120V Receptacle (Inverter Powered)
2.  Television (Inverter Powered)
3.  Vacant (Inverter Powered)
4.  Vacant (Inverter Powered

12V Fuse Panel

1.  Tank Heater
2.  Driver Side Lights and Livingroom Fan
3.  Passenger Side Lights and Bedroom Fan
4.  Coach Rear Lights and Bathroom Fan
5.  Water Pump
6.  Water Heater/Refrigerator
7.  Antenna/Awning
8.  12V Bath Outlet (Added by factory during build)
9.  O2/Propane Detectors
10. Vacant
11. Vacant

542  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We're happy with our new 2350 on: May 25, 2013, 08:52:15 am
     Love your pictures from your trips.  Two of my favortie places - the Grand Canyon and Zion NP.  We did the hike to Havasu Falls.  Absolutley beautiful!  We actually stayed in the lodge in Supai.  It was 28 miles in three days.  A trip of a lifetime!!

543  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical question an inverter on: May 23, 2013, 09:16:24 am
Here is some information I found to help define the type of battery you might want.  I personally like Interstate batteries.  The batteries that came with both of our PCs were Marine batteries.  When I need to replace them I will go with Interstate Deep Cycle batteries.  When we had a travel trailer we had an Interstate Deep Cycle battery and it never gave us any problems.

Starting, Marine, or Deep-Cycle Batteries

Starting (sometimes called SLI, for starting, lighting, ignition) batteries are commonly used to start and run engines. Engine starters need a very large starting current for a very short time. Starting batteries have a large number of thin plates for maximum surface area. The plates are composed of a Lead "sponge", similar in appearance to a very fine foam sponge. This gives a very large surface area, but if deep cycled, this sponge will quickly be consumed and fall to the bottom of the cells. Automotive batteries will generally fail after 30-150 deep cycles if deep cycled, while they may last for thousands of cycles in normal starting use (2-5% discharge).

Deep cycle batteries are designed to be discharged down as much as 80% time after time, and have much thicker plates. The major difference between a true deep cycle battery and others is that the plates are SOLID Lead plates - not sponge. This gives less surface area, thus less "instant" power like starting batteries need. Although these can be cycled down to 20% charge, the best lifespan vs cost method is to keep the average cycle at about 50% discharge. Unfortunately, it is often impossible to tell what you are really buying in some of the discount stores or places that specialize in automotive batteries. The golf car battery is quite popular for small systems and RV's. The problem is that "golf car" refers to a size of battery case (commonly called GC-2, or T-105), not the type or construction - so the quality and construction of a golf car battery can vary considerably - ranging from the cheap off brand with thin plates up to true deep cycle brands, such as Crown, Deka, Trojan, etc. In general, you get what you pay for.

Marine batteries are usually a "hybrid", and fall between the starting and deep-cycle batteries, though a few (Rolls-Surrette and Concorde, for example) are true deep cycle. In the hybrid, the plates may be composed of Lead sponge, but it is coarser and heavier than that used in starting batteries. It is often hard to tell what you are getting in a "marine" battery, but most are a hybrid. Starting batteries are usually rated at "CCA", or cold cranking amps, or "MCA", Marine cranking amps - the same as "CA". Any battery with the capacity shown in CA or MCA may or may not be a true deep-cycle battery. It is sometimes hard to tell, as the term deep cycle is often overused - we have even seen the term "deep cycle" used in automotive starting battery advertising. CA and MCA ratings are at 32 degrees F, while CCA is at zero degree F. Unfortunately, the only positive way to tell with some batteries is to buy one and cut it open - not much of an option.

544  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another season on the road and the inverter is not working on: May 19, 2013, 08:09:13 pm

    I was also thinking, and this happened to me on more than one occasion--I thought I was in the "use" position because the red light was on but in essence I had plugged it in and did not put the button in the use position so I was not charging my batteries.  The red light was only on because I was plugged in.

545  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Another season on the road and the inverter is not working on: May 19, 2013, 07:52:23 pm

The first thing I would do is to get a volt meter and measure the voltage right at the coach batteries (not the van battery).
If the reading is less than 12 volts then the battery is not being charged or there is excessive corrosion on the leads or there is a lose connection.
To check for charging the battery, connect to shore power, make sure the store switch is in the operate position, and then measure voltage at the battery.  This will ensure that you are indeed charging the battery.  You should read about 13+ volts.

Also check to see if there are any blown fuses (12 volt) in the convereter.

This is what I would do to start troubleshooting this problem.  Let us know what you find or if you have other quesstions.

Just for your info - I went out to our coach and tested the inverter and I read a full 13.0 when I press the green button.  I'm pretty sure that this is what the inverter sees as the coach battery voltage.

546  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: tank sensors, Can the new electonic sensors be installed on older models on: May 16, 2013, 09:47:51 am
John and Holly,

    We had the sprayer on both the 2008 model and now on the 2012 model.  My DH loves this feature.  He uses it everytime he dumbs the black tank and just about once a week on the gray tank.  He defintely uses it prior to coming home from a trip.  If we have a full hookup he leaves the gray tank open and the black closed.  Once the black fills up or we are ready to leave he dumps it and then uses the sprayer to clean it out. 

547  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: tank sensors, Can the new electonic sensors be installed on older models on: May 15, 2013, 08:43:45 am
When we need to do a good cleaning of our holding tanks we use Calgon Water Softener (found in the laundry detergent aisle at the grocery store).  We use the liquid form and pour about a capful into the holding tank that is filled with water.  Let it sit for a little while and then drain.  We then rinse with clear water when we are done.  Some folks add just a few drops of detergent as well when doing the cleaning with this method but we have never used the detergent.  We have been using this for 10 years and it works great.  It is much cheaper then buying the RV products and it is safe.  No harsh chemicals or bleach.
Found this method on many RV forums years ago and it works wonders. 

548  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Service Manuals and Troubleshooting Guides on: May 13, 2013, 10:48:24 am
Ever since we had to troubleshoot our refrigerator while camping in FL this winter I have been looking for other SERVICE MANUALS for those "just in case" situations.  Here is a very good website that includes downloadable links to some service manuals for things like the AC, Furnance, and Refrigerator.  These are the service manuals the RV repair shops use to troubleshoot a problem.

The website also gives some very good explanations of how things work in the RV. 

The refrigerator repair was easy to follow and only cost us $30 to repair and no service call.

549  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: What's the name on: May 09, 2013, 05:47:35 pm

550  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Thinking caps on: May 09, 2013, 04:31:09 pm
Barack Obama

551  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning Recall on: May 09, 2013, 07:50:32 am
Here's the info I found on the recall




Here is a link to an article that identifies the model numbers

I checked our documentation for the 2012 2551 model and we have a Power Patio Awning Model 895(X)0(X)(X).400(X)    On another forum someone posted that the model serial plate is located inside the front support rail, and you need to extend the awning and get a short ladder to look for it.  It looks like the recall only affects those awnings with motor powered awnings and awning motor service kits manufactured between February 13, 2013 and April 9, 2013.


552  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: May 08, 2013, 02:03:14 pm
Steve and Aleece,

       Congratulations to both of you.  Cheers We're sure you'll enjoy your adventures.  Hope to see you in FL in the winter. 

Barry and Sue
553  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Do I need two Air Conditioners? on: May 08, 2013, 09:11:50 am
I had an awning shop make a set of sun screens for our 2008 2350.  They work great and the total cost was around $100.

When we got  our 2012 2551 I just moved them over.  The sun screens are now five years old and show very little wear.


554  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Do I need two Air Conditioners? on: May 05, 2013, 11:48:43 am
Mike and Trish

We have a 2012 2551 and found the A/C was able to keep up with the 90+ temperatures in the keys this winter.   Newer PC's have  MCD Shades that have a sun screen plus a room darkening shade.  We keep the MCD sun screens down on sunny days.  We also have sun screens that we use to cover the three windows in the cab area all the time.  The sun screens help keep the PC cool during the day.  They block the sun but still let you see outside, you don't feel like you are trapped in a cave.  The other thing we did was order thermal windows for our PC.  They work great to keep the heat and cold in/out.  The last thing we do is angle the air deflectors at the front and rear of the A/C down a little to get the cold air away from the ceiling and circulating within the PC.

555  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: May 02, 2013, 08:05:45 pm
John and Holly,

    If you could stay in Indiana and let the Ford dealer that sold the cab to Phoenix Cruiser check it out, I think you would be better served.  That might not be possible if you are in a time crunch.  I would hate to see you get stranded on the road on the way back to Maryland.  I will send you a private email.

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