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571  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shake down trip on: April 11, 2013, 08:29:15 am

    We had the day/night shades as you describe on our 08 model.  We now have the new MCD  shades on our 12 model.  We did not find the day/night shades to be effective in blocking out the heat from the sun.  They are good for light filtering.  The new MCD shades are good for both light filtering and solar protection.

572  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Connector for the Door is missing to hold the door totally open on: April 07, 2013, 04:05:10 pm
I would call or email the factory.  They are great at getting the right parts to you.
573  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: reunion in Petosky, MI on: April 06, 2013, 02:05:11 pm
John be very caefull about letting Holly stop in Frankenmoth. You might not have any money left for your big trip.

If you are planning to stop at Frankenmuth on your way to or from the reunion here is a money saving tip.  Join the Zehnders reward program at  It is free to join and is simply a rewards program.  It is not a credit or debit card but just a card to get you some money savings at Zehnders.

Zehnders is world famous for their chicken dinner.  The price last year was $19.95 a person.  It is an all you can eat (not a buffet but served at your table).  It includes a whole lot of food (the least of which is chicken).  You get soup, cottage cheese, cheese and crackers, bread and jelly, pickles, cranberry relish, buttered noodles, mashed potatoes and gravy, stuffing, a vegie, and desert just to name a few items.  You can also take a dogie bag when you go (so lunch the next day).

If you go the month of your bday and belong to the rewards program you dinner is "FREE".  If you go any other month and didn't go for your birthday then your meal is $3.00 off.  My bday is June and Barry's is May so when we go one of us is free and the other is $3.00 off.  A very nice meal for a decent price.  You must join at least 30 days prior to the month of your bday and they do ask for ID.

It also gets you a free ornament at Bronners.


574  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: reunion in Petosky, MI on: April 05, 2013, 01:27:48 pm
Try Frankenmuth, MI.  Google it and you will see all the neat little things to do in Frankenmuth.  Bronners - the largest Christmas store is there and the world famous Chicken Dinners at Zenders or Bavarian Inn are in town as well.  There are a few campgrounds in that area as well.  We live about an hour south of that area and make the trip there at least three times a year.  Just a fun little town a few miles east of I-75.

575  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower surround? on: March 31, 2013, 07:59:06 pm
I'm 6 ' 175 pounds and the corner shower provides plenty of room.  No problem with my head clearing the skylight.

576  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: BIKE PROJECT FOR YOUR CRUISER on: March 31, 2013, 05:56:32 pm
Look like very nice bikes. 

My only concern is that if you leave them outside with a cable running through the handles would it be possible for someone to cut the handles or bags and get to the bikes.  I would somehow want to actually secure the bikes with a cable to prevent them from being taken.  I know cables can also be cut but I would think the bags would be easy to cut and then remove the bags leaving you with the cable and bag handles.  Just a thought.

They look really NICE!

577  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got my new PC 3100 on Tue. on: March 31, 2013, 05:50:19 pm
Congrats on the new unit.  ENJOY!!!! Cheers
578  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower surround? on: March 31, 2013, 05:49:33 pm
In our 2008 and 2012 models the shower surround is as you describe a "PLASTIC" type materal that has seams with an edging and caulk in the corner areas.  In both of our units the shower has worked very well but maintenance is necessary to make sure the caulk is adequate.  We use our shower constantly in our RVs having lived in our units at least 4 - 5 months of the year.  The showers have held up well but we did recaulk a couple of the areas.

579  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 30, 2013, 09:20:58 am

    Welcome to the forum and the world of Phoenix Cruiser.  I know what you mean about the handling of certain units.  Don't be afraid to try a little bit larger PC.  Compared to the "regular" Class C's the PC are better in handling.  We have owned 2 Phoenix Cruisers (a 2008 2350 and now a 2012 2551).  I did not like driving the 2350 at all.  The front end seemed to wander all over the road.  The only thing we did to fix the handling on that unit is added Bilstein shocks to the front end and a rear trac bar.  The 2008 2350 PC then drove like an SUV.  No problem for me to drive it even in high winds.
     We have done nothing to the 2012 2551.  Absolutely love the unit.  We will be putting new shocks on it now that it has over 10,000 miles on it.  Out of the factory it drives like your typical pickup truck.  The shocks are not a necessity yet but the Bilstein shocks are Heavy duty compared to the factory originals so will be adding those in the not too distant future.
     If you do buy a unit and have handling problems do some research and change one thing at atime.  We found very good online info on the back ending swaying on the 2350 and that is why we added the rear trac bar.  That took care of all of our handling issues.  If it is a used unit note the year of the chassis.  That may also determine what changes you may need to make.  Remember, there were some improvements made by Ford between 2007 and 2008 and that is why we only made minor changes on our 2008.

580  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Need Help with trip west on: March 30, 2013, 08:48:22 am
George and Judi,

Colorado - we did the Pikes Peak Cog Railway and Air Force Academy - enjoyed both very much.
                Mesa Verde is one of our favorite National Parks - make sure you take the ranger guided tour (1/2 off with your America the Beautiful Pass) - very interesting to be in the "ruins"
                 An hour away from Mesa Verde is the "FOUR CORNERS".  Some folks say it is a tourist trap but we went anyway and spent three hours there talking to the local vendors.  Some very interesting arrow heads being made.  We bought one and had the maker sign it for us (very cool).  Keep it displayed in our foyer at home.

Utah - Arches National Park - another of our favorites.  Sign up for the Firey Furnace Tour - again 1/2 off with your pass but do it early online because it does fill up fast.  Make sure you take the Ranger guided tour the private ones are 10 to 15 times as much.  We paid $7.50 for it and others who took the private tour were paying $100 plus.  It is a 3 hour tour that takes you into the Firey Furnace part of the park.  Wear good shoes and take water.  The ranger is very informative and gets you to climb into to some very neat spaces.  Very educational as well.  Not difficult knowing you both are in great shape!!!!

Get to Zion National Park and try to camp in the NP campground - very, very fun.  Many nice hikes throughout the park.

Grand Canyon is also one of our favorites.  We actually did a three day hike to the water falls.  Stayed on the Supai reservations.  Probably the best and most adventurous trip we ever did.

On our way out West one of the campground host talked us into joining Passport America.  We did and were not sorry at all.  Many nice Passport Parks out West and the most we ever paid was $15 dollars a night.  If you want more info I'll send you a private email.  We did not reserve any campgounds except for the NP ones.  Others we just found as we were driving or did some rustic camping.  Many BLM camps in the area.

581  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Norcold Refrigerator Service Manual on: March 19, 2013, 02:46:14 pm
We had a problem with our refrigerator getting too cold even on the lowest setting.  The fins in the refrigerator were also frosting over very heavily.  After doing some research online we think we have found the probelm.  The thermistor located on the fins seems to be failing.  We tested with an ohms meter and it was not testing as it should.  We have replaced it and at this moment all seems well.

The important thing is that we found the Service Manual online.  It is very good for troubleshooting the refrigerator. It is at

When you click on the link it will download the manual.  


Update:  The new thermistor is working great after 8 hours.  The refrigerator is keeping a nice steady temperature!!!
582  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Travel Advice Requested for traveling to Wyoming from NE Penna. on: March 13, 2013, 08:46:24 am
We made the trip to YNP from Michigan a couple of years ago and had a great time.  We agree with Tom's suggestions about places to stop.  One thing to add is that if you are not members of Passport America (PA) it might be something to check into.

When we stopped at the Corn Palace in Mitchell, SD the campground we stayed at was R&R Campground and the owner showed us the Passport America book.  We were relunctant to join but at the time it only cost us an extra $22.00.  She showed us the many Passport parks out west and it became obvious we could save $$$. 

We did a review of the many parks and most of them got good to excellent reviews.  In Custer we stayed at the Broke Arrow Campground that was in the middle of anywhere you wanted to go.  An excellent campground at only $15 a night.  We visited Mount Rushmore, Crazy Horse, Custer State Park, and a couple of the other NP in the area.

When we visited Devils Tower we stayed in their campground ($6 for seniors).  Totally rustic so you could check out your generator.  When we were parked we looked out our window with the Tower in the background.

On that same trip we visited Zion NP (stayed in the park) and Arches NP (stayed at OK RV Park in Moab, another PA Park at only $15).  Both great places to stay.

Enjoy your trip.
583  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Removing carpet on: February 24, 2013, 03:24:40 pm

   I would call Phoenix and ask them their thoughts.  They could probably answer all your questions.

584  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower Pan on: February 21, 2013, 12:22:49 pm
The towel bar behind the bathroom door looks really nice "BUT" seems like you could catch yourself on that when trying to enter the bathroom through that somewhat tight door opening (for me anyway).


Actually we never did catch ourselves on the towel rack attached to the back of the bathroom door.  I had worried about that too but it was no problem.

I had a very small (countertop) wastebasket (with cover) in the bathroom that fit next to the toilet.  Anything large went into the wastebasket underneath the sink in the kitchen.


PS - I have the same phobia about putting holes in the wall.
585  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower Pan on: February 21, 2013, 08:04:04 am
When we had the 2350 here is what we did to add a little more storage in the bathroom.

Bathroom Counter Extension (Image Bath-1)

Matching corian cut to size and fitted in place.  The step down design allowed for a cleaner look and no need to try and match the sink edge pattern.  The extension provides a place for the tissue both top and bottom.

Additional Storage For Tall/Bulky Items (Images Bath -2 & Bath-3)

Located between the shower and the sink cabinet this area was perfect for tall items like curly irons and bulky hair dryers.  Image Bath-2 shows the top in place and Image Bath-3 shows the top removed for easy access.

Keep Rings Out Of The Trap (Image Bath-4)

A simple sink strainer from Home Depot can save hours of work and that priceless ring

Just One More Hook (Image Bath-5)

Another trip to Home Deport for a matching hook.  Use existing screw in side of medicine cabinet to attach hook. 

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