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571  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 23, 2013, 07:19:58 am

     You are absolutely correct.  Since we have had both the 2350 and 2551 I can defintely agree with you that the rear bath gives you much more storage.  In the 2350 I used to have to keep some of the bath items in the cabinet outside the bathroom.  Now I have room for all bath items plus some non bath items in the rear bathroom.  It is also very easy to shower and dress in the rear bath.  With the 2350, we would many times dress outside of the bathroom due to lack of space.

     If I was a FT rver I would want to make it easy on myself as well. 

     As for the length of the 2551, we actually find it easier to drive then the 2350 and have not had any situation were we were too long.  We have parked in shopping center parking lots, gas stations, restaurants, and rest areas without any issues.

     The most important thing to remember about Phoenix Cruiser, you can draw up your ideal floor plan and they will work with you and try to accomodate your wants and needs.  Don't limit yourself to the models but (with reason) let them know what you desire and they will work with you.

572  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ignition beeping on sprinter on: April 22, 2013, 01:21:12 pm

Couple of questions.

How many times does it beep?

Will it beep if you turn the ignition on and then off withour starting the engine?

Do you have an after market radio with a removable frontface?

573  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 22, 2013, 08:01:57 am
Hi Jan,

     Welcome to the site.  We had a travel trailer when we first retired and started RVing.  It did not have a permanent bed and I was determined that the next RV would.  We were using the TT about 2-3 months every year.  It had a nice large dinette that made into a bed but doing that every morning and every night was getting tiresome. 
      We then purchased our first PC in 2008, a 2350.  Two things attracted us to this model, it was small and we thought it would be easy to get from place to place and yes it had a permanent bed.  Well, the corner bed did me in.  If it was just me, by myself, the corner bed would have been just fine and there would have been enough cabinet space for me alone.  We spent from 3- 4 months every year in the 2350.
      In 2011 we sold the 2350 and bought a 2551 and love it.  We spend 4 - 5 months in it and I find that it is very comfortable and we can carry everything we need.  It is still short enough that we can go anywhere and the living area is plenty comfortable.  We did custom a few things to our liking, the TV was placed on a swivel mount and we opted for a non-powered drivers seat so that both seats can turn around and are great for relaxing or having another couple over.  We are in the process of changing out our couch to make it even more comfortable for us.  We had opted for the older model couch since the new model was just too deep for me so now we are looking at putting in a jack knife sofa so that we have a comfortable couch and can utilize the drawer under it.   This unit also fits in our garage so that is a very big plus for us.
      Judi amd George's 2910 is another great unit.  We camped with them in FL in January and their setup is very, very comfortable. 
      We had looked at the Born Frees and Lazy Dazes as well but Phoenix was the only manufacturer that would work with us in doing almost anything custom that you want.  We made up a list of what we wanted and PC was able to accomodate our every need.

574  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 19, 2013, 12:45:26 pm

    Welcome to the PC family.  We look forward to meeting you!!!

Barry and Sue
575  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 with a dinette? on: April 15, 2013, 06:04:49 pm

    Our first RV (2003) did not have a permanent bed and I vowed that the next RV would.  That is when we purchased the 2008 2350 (with sofa).  It had a bed.  However, for our comfort we did not find the corner bed to work for us.  Some people like them but we did not.  The DH is 175 pounds and I top the scales at 108 but we felt very closed in with the size of the bed.  Also, making the bed was another challenge in itself.  It was also difficult for me to get to the cabinets over the corner bed without having to climb all over that freshly made bed.

     As for a dinette, yes I would like one but find the sofa with table to work just fine.  Putting up the table is much easier then making up that corner bed. 

     We now have a 2551 with the twin beds.  And even though I said I could not sleep without my DH it has not been a problem.  The 2350 bathroom was manageable for us so the larger bathroom in the 2551 was an added bonus.

     Before getting the corner bed I would try to spend some time in it to make sure that it will work for you.  If you could just spend one night in there or take a long nap I think you could make a much better decision.  Everyone can give you their opinion but everyone has a different comfort level so try to get some time in the 2350. 

576  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Baby Seat Placement on: April 15, 2013, 03:17:31 pm

This is a very hard question to answer.  First of all each state has different standards.  Also, I have not found any state that specifically addresses motor homes.

I did find a couple of web sites  that might be of value.

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration:

This site provides a list of Child Car Seat Inspection Station by state or ZIP code.  A phone call to some of these locations may give you some insight.

Governors Highway Safety Association:

This site provides a summary of Child Car Seat requirements by state and access to state specific web sites.

I contacted Oakland County Health Division-Health Ed. in Michigan which was on the NHTSA web site and they were very willing to help but had little to add above contact the motor home manufacture.

I would think the first step would be to contact Kermit and see what his position is on the subject and then follow up with some of these or other sites.

577  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shake down trip on: April 11, 2013, 08:29:15 am

    We had the day/night shades as you describe on our 08 model.  We now have the new MCD  shades on our 12 model.  We did not find the day/night shades to be effective in blocking out the heat from the sun.  They are good for light filtering.  The new MCD shades are good for both light filtering and solar protection.

578  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Connector for the Door is missing to hold the door totally open on: April 07, 2013, 04:05:10 pm
I would call or email the factory.  They are great at getting the right parts to you.
579  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: reunion in Petosky, MI on: April 06, 2013, 02:05:11 pm
John be very caefull about letting Holly stop in Frankenmoth. You might not have any money left for your big trip.

If you are planning to stop at Frankenmuth on your way to or from the reunion here is a money saving tip.  Join the Zehnders reward program at  It is free to join and is simply a rewards program.  It is not a credit or debit card but just a card to get you some money savings at Zehnders.

Zehnders is world famous for their chicken dinner.  The price last year was $19.95 a person.  It is an all you can eat (not a buffet but served at your table).  It includes a whole lot of food (the least of which is chicken).  You get soup, cottage cheese, cheese and crackers, bread and jelly, pickles, cranberry relish, buttered noodles, mashed potatoes and gravy, stuffing, a vegie, and desert just to name a few items.  You can also take a dogie bag when you go (so lunch the next day).

If you go the month of your bday and belong to the rewards program you dinner is "FREE".  If you go any other month and didn't go for your birthday then your meal is $3.00 off.  My bday is June and Barry's is May so when we go one of us is free and the other is $3.00 off.  A very nice meal for a decent price.  You must join at least 30 days prior to the month of your bday and they do ask for ID.

It also gets you a free ornament at Bronners.


580  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: reunion in Petosky, MI on: April 05, 2013, 01:27:48 pm
Try Frankenmuth, MI.  Google it and you will see all the neat little things to do in Frankenmuth.  Bronners - the largest Christmas store is there and the world famous Chicken Dinners at Zenders or Bavarian Inn are in town as well.  There are a few campgrounds in that area as well.  We live about an hour south of that area and make the trip there at least three times a year.  Just a fun little town a few miles east of I-75.

581  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower surround? on: March 31, 2013, 07:59:06 pm
I'm 6 ' 175 pounds and the corner shower provides plenty of room.  No problem with my head clearing the skylight.

582  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: BIKE PROJECT FOR YOUR CRUISER on: March 31, 2013, 05:56:32 pm
Look like very nice bikes. 

My only concern is that if you leave them outside with a cable running through the handles would it be possible for someone to cut the handles or bags and get to the bikes.  I would somehow want to actually secure the bikes with a cable to prevent them from being taken.  I know cables can also be cut but I would think the bags would be easy to cut and then remove the bags leaving you with the cable and bag handles.  Just a thought.

They look really NICE!

583  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got my new PC 3100 on Tue. on: March 31, 2013, 05:50:19 pm
Congrats on the new unit.  ENJOY!!!! Cheers
584  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shower surround? on: March 31, 2013, 05:49:33 pm
In our 2008 and 2012 models the shower surround is as you describe a "PLASTIC" type materal that has seams with an edging and caulk in the corner areas.  In both of our units the shower has worked very well but maintenance is necessary to make sure the caulk is adequate.  We use our shower constantly in our RVs having lived in our units at least 4 - 5 months of the year.  The showers have held up well but we did recaulk a couple of the areas.

585  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 30, 2013, 09:20:58 am

    Welcome to the forum and the world of Phoenix Cruiser.  I know what you mean about the handling of certain units.  Don't be afraid to try a little bit larger PC.  Compared to the "regular" Class C's the PC are better in handling.  We have owned 2 Phoenix Cruisers (a 2008 2350 and now a 2012 2551).  I did not like driving the 2350 at all.  The front end seemed to wander all over the road.  The only thing we did to fix the handling on that unit is added Bilstein shocks to the front end and a rear trac bar.  The 2008 2350 PC then drove like an SUV.  No problem for me to drive it even in high winds.
     We have done nothing to the 2012 2551.  Absolutely love the unit.  We will be putting new shocks on it now that it has over 10,000 miles on it.  Out of the factory it drives like your typical pickup truck.  The shocks are not a necessity yet but the Bilstein shocks are Heavy duty compared to the factory originals so will be adding those in the not too distant future.
     If you do buy a unit and have handling problems do some research and change one thing at atime.  We found very good online info on the back ending swaying on the 2350 and that is why we added the rear trac bar.  That took care of all of our handling issues.  If it is a used unit note the year of the chassis.  That may also determine what changes you may need to make.  Remember, there were some improvements made by Ford between 2007 and 2008 and that is why we only made minor changes on our 2008.

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