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601  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: August 03, 2012, 12:16:11 pm
One thing that surprised them was the height of the toilet.  It is plainly too tall for both of them.  They have a question to ask the factory about a lower pedistal....maybe no pedistal.

I do not know about the toilets in the newer models of the 2350 but from the pictures it looks like it is on a pedistal.  But in the 2551, the toilet is much lower since it is a different model toilet and it does not sit on a pedistal.  Having had both the 2350 and now 2551 it was a real surprise when I first used the 2551 after having been used to the 2350.  

They liked our older sliding windows for improved air circulation while parked.  

At first we were not sure if the newer style windows would give us the air circulation but having had both kinds of windows now we find the newer style to work very nice.  Surprisingly you get very good circulation through them.  And the best part is you do not have to worry about them being open if it is raining.  We also like the rimless look on the outside.

It may be the old uncomfortable jack-knife style sofa.

When someone needed to sleep in our 2350 on the sofa I always placed a piece of memory foam underneath the sheets and there were never any complaints.  I would then roll the memory foam up and store it behind the sofa.

It is nice that they had a chance to see your unit so they can now compare the differences between 2007 and 2013.  Hopefully they will be able to pick and chose and get exactly what they want.


602  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Holding Tanks on: August 01, 2012, 05:16:05 pm
Ann and Bob

The size of the tanks (35 black, 23 grey) I think is based upon the plumbing lay out plus where the tanks can be mounted under the PC.  The 2350, 2551 and 2552 have smaller grey tanks and larger black tanks.  All the other models are just the opposite.

Managing the tanks depends upon the campground.  If full hook ups are available I connect the 3" sewer hose, open the grey tank and keep the black tank closed.  When the black tank needs dumping I close the grey tank and let it fill up a little before I dump the black tank.  After I dump the black tank I use the water hose connection on the San-Con to flush the black tank.  Once the black tank is flushed I close the black tank and add a couple of gallons of water to the black tank, add any chemicals and start the whole thing over again.  The finale step is to open the grey tank for one last flushing of the 3" hose.  This is just me - I never have the grey and black tanks open at the same time (do not want any cross contamination) again this is just me.  If the campground does not have sewer hook ups I keep both tanks closed.  When the grey tank fills up I use a blue dumper to empty it.   It usually takes about two weeks before I have to dump the black tank.

603  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: July 31, 2012, 06:21:10 pm
I think the most important thing to remember when looking at the different models that Phoenix Cruiser has to offer is that if you want something "Different"  do NOT hesitate to talk to Kermit about it.  Kermit will take any suggestions you might have and give them serious consideration.  He will let you know if he can accomodate your request and will let you know why he can't.  You could even design your own floor plan and show it to him and he will tell you if it is possible.  If you are unsure of anything just ask Kermit and he will be honest with you. 

In 2008, we were the first ones to ever ask for a corian sink extension and he now does this all the time.  He has gone to a larger TV because of Ron's installation.  We had two pages of changes on our 2012 model and we absolutely love our 2551.  He went to the moon and back for "gradygal" (George and Judi) and has built two very SPECIAL units for them.

I think the best thing about Phoenix USA is you can order something special!

604  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: July 29, 2012, 06:29:06 pm
Before I tell you about our buying choices Ill tell you how we use our unit.  We stay anywhere from 1 day to 3 months at a time.  We just got back from a 3 day trip to a local campground.  Our next trip is scheduled for a month out East (traveling from place to place).  I also have our winter planned for 3 months in Florida (weve done this for six years now).  
We started in 2003 with a travel trailer that had a slide but no permanent bed.  My requirement was that the next unit MUST have a permanent bed.  I got really tired every night and every morning dealing with putting the bedding away and then taking it out again at night.  I also insisted that we find a unit with NO carpet.  

In 2008 we bought the 2350 with a slide (E350).  It was a great unit.  The only changes we made to the unit were changing the front shocks to Bilstein and adding a Blue OX trac bar.  Once we added the trac bar it drove like a dream.  What I got really tired of was the corner bed.  It was difficult to make, especially when changing sheets.    And for two people (175 lbs and 100 lbs) it seemed to get smaller and smaller.  Watching TV was also a bit difficult and it was hard to have another couple come to visit because of lack of seating.  

We now have a 2012 2551 with a slide (bought it in October, 2011) (E450).  We absolutely think this is the best unit for us.  It is the largest unit that will fit in our garage and when we ordered it we had all of our wants and needs included.  We do not have any power seats so this allows both the drivers seat and passenger seat to swivel thus seating for four is very comfortable.   We installed our own TV on a swivel mount so that viewing TV is no issue for us.  We opted for the sofa with the large drawer underneath so storage is not an issue.  The bathroom space is great and the beds are the most comfortable we have ever slept in (and easy to make).  All three of our units have had slides and we have never had an issue with the slides.  We have stayed in parking lots overnight (just kept the slide in), we have stayed in zero degree weather (have never been cold) and we have stayed in it anywhere from 1 day to 3 full months (and never complained about space).  This unit drives very nice right out of the factory.  Even though the 2551 is 3 feet longer than the 2350, the longer vehicle is not any harder to drive than the shorter one.  In fact, we find the 2551 to drive even easier than the 2350.

We have gone with a toad and without depending on our need for transportation once we are parked.  The E450 with a V10 has had ample power in any driving situation that we have encountered.  We have found that the larger rear end of the E450 makes the E450 a little more responsive than the E350.

605  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: OOPs, we did it again: Again on: July 23, 2012, 07:55:03 am
Syd and Margo

     We'll be there.  The party is at George and Judi's PC Cheers

Barry and Sue
606  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A/C problem again on: July 22, 2012, 12:27:01 pm
According to Dometic, here is how the fan and compressor are suppose to operate depending on your settings:

Cool - Cool Mode
In the Cool mode the system will cycle the compressor On and Off based on the room air temperature and the temperature set-point on the Single Zone LCD thermostat. The fan will turn on first followed
by the compressor in approximately 2 minutes. In this mode there are 3 fan speed selections:

Lo - (LOW): The fan operates continuously at low speed. The compressor cycles ON and OFF.

Hi - (HIGH): The fan operates continuously at high speed. The compressor cycles ON and OFF.

Au - (AUTO): When auto fan is selected the fan speed will vary depending on the difference between the temperature set-point and the room air temperature. In auto fan the compressor and the fan
will cycle On and Off with the thermostat.

When the difference is:
>5 The fan operates on HIGH
<4 The fan operates on LOW

Compressor Time Delay
A time delay of approximately two minutes occurs any time the compressor is required to begin the cooling cycle.

Dometics literature also states that the operation on High Fan/Cooling mode will give optimum or maximum efficiency in high humidity or high outside temperatures.
Starting the air conditioner early in the morning and giving it a "headstart" on the expected high outdoor ambient will greatly improve its ability to maintain the desired indoor temperature.

We found these on/off cycles annoying at first until we understood how it is suppose to work.  Ours works exactly as described above.  We generally keep it on Au.

607  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: July 20, 2012, 09:45:16 am
My sheets fit PERFECT.  I bought mattress covers from JC Penney's.


   See my post on the velcro straps I added to my sheets,714.msg4852.html#msg4852.  They work great.   Yes, these beds are very comfortable.

608  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: July 20, 2012, 09:34:33 am
Where do people keep their pans?

We also had shelves put in the two shirt closests.  I keep my pans on the bottom shelf next to the stove top.  I got a really good price (less than $50) for these pans.
They all stack into the large one so they take up very little space.  AND--they are the nicest pans I have ever owned.

In that same cabinet I have my electric fry pan, crock pot, hand mixer, toaster, etc...  Those cabinets are nice and deep that you can put alot in them with room to spare so that you do not have to move everything out to get to one small item. 

609  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: July 20, 2012, 09:25:49 am
Ann and Bob,

   We also did not want to put screws in the bath door for towel racks so we used "extra strength" double sided tape and put our towel bars on the shower door.  I have one higher up and one about the middle and they work great.  Here is a link to the towel bars that we use.
    The adhesive on these was not that strong but we just changed it out for extra strength adhesive we bought at Home Depot and we have not had an issue yet.  I wish they were a little longer and when these no longer work (they've been working for four years) I would just buy the two end joints and a plastic bar and cut it to size.  These are only 12 inches long so I have to fold the towels in thirds.  I bought lightweight towels that dry fast so it is working for us.

610  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Stop Rust on: July 19, 2012, 09:24:00 am
Backing up the point about getting that stuff on your skin.  I did get a little on me.  It was nearly 2 months before my skin shed the last of it.  Good thing it didn't drip on my face.


    A good adhesive remover will work to get products like this off your skin without any damage to the skin.  We use this at home

    Many local medical stores carry it, in fact when our local Walmart had a medical store in it they also carried it.

    It works really well.

611  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 19, 2012, 09:17:58 am
Anne and Bob,

Congratulations  Celebrate Celebrate

Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy. 

Barry and Sue
612  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Stop Rust on: July 17, 2012, 07:39:51 pm

Chassis Saver has the same UV warining.  I'm not going to top coat it and wait and see how gray it gets and how it looks.

613  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Stop Rust on: July 15, 2012, 05:54:08 pm
I really need to do something about the back side of my entry step.

One thing I would caution you on when working on the step is to make sure none of this "paint" gets on the area where the step slides in and out.  You do "NOT" want to fuse the step to its brackets or the step may not move any more.
614  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: request from those with slide experience on: July 15, 2012, 05:51:18 pm

Do you use slide supports?
How do you maintain the rubber seals?
     There are all kinds of products for rubber seals - and there are pros and cons to using them.  You should be good for the first year and I would call Kermit and ask his advice.
Do you add insulation to the underside?
      We do not use any insulation and have never found a need for it.  We notice no air flow going between the seals.  If we know of extremely bad weather we may bring the slide in.
How do you keep out bugs, mice or toads?
       We use a "NO SOLICITATION" sign and we have never had a problem.  rolling on the floor rolling on the floor   For real - since we store ours in a garage it has never been an issue.  But we have heard to use dryer sheets or real pepperment oil on cotton balls scattered throughout to keep the pesking critters away.  We have never had any entry through the slide while we are camping. 

       The only thing we do is make sure the slide stays in the middle of the opening.  There are rollers on each side of the slide and you should make sure the slide remains centered between those two rollers.  We noticed a little rubbing on our 2350 and called Kermit and he told us how to adjust the slide mechanism so as to recenter the slide.  Apparently one of the nuts and bolts on the slide mechanism loosened and caused our slide to shift a little.  Now when Sue is doing the hard job of pressing that button I go on the outside and let her know that the slide is in a good position.  We do this periodically just to check. 

615  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Stop Rust on: July 14, 2012, 08:12:14 pm

   It is similar to POR-15.   I heard that it is a little better.  I had my choice between the chassis saver and por-15 so chose the chassis saver.  It actually adheres better when there is rust. 

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