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631  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Parkways in New York on: August 23, 2012, 08:04:47 pm
Thanks for the two replies - I gave you each a helpful.  I sure wish mapquest or other routing programs would allow for the avoidance of these parkways.


UPDATE 8:15 PM - I just logged into the Good Sam Club website (since I do have a membership) and I tried their routing program and it is actually "VERY NICE".  It did allow me to put in avoidances per state like parkways, tunnels, major bridges etc...   Very helpful indeed if you have a good sam membership.  Even will send the routing to your email so that it can be printed out. 
632  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Parkways in New York on: August 23, 2012, 08:43:43 am
In planning our trip to Maine I was reading that New York does not allow RVs on certain Parkways.  I've looked at the New York State DOT site and have called them but am wondering if others have found this to be a real issue.  What do you do to avoid these roads?  Is New York the only state that we have to worry about?  Any advice would be appreciated.

633  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Planning a trip to Maine and Cape Cod on: August 23, 2012, 08:34:50 am

     We are heading that way from Michigan the first week of September.  We plan to be gone about a month.  Our first stop is West Point, NY, then onto Cape Cod, Bar Harbor, and then we'll circle back through Cabot, VT and go to Cooperstown, NY and Corning NY.  I have not made any reservations but just called a few places and they said they have openings.  As we get closer I'll start calling to confirm places as the weekend "might" get crowded.  If we have internet I'll post and let you know about the places we stay.

634  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replacing cutting board with a drawer???? on: August 14, 2012, 12:02:54 pm
Marilyn and Margie

Here is another option, we replaced both drawers with a pullout pantry from Home Depot in our 2008 2350 and then moved it to our 2012 2551.  It provides more storage with easier access.

635  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Battery Charging on: August 13, 2012, 11:29:39 am

The converter ( battery charger ) does not directly charge the van battery.  It is not all that hard to charge the van battery if it is fully discharged but I would not recommend that it be done on a regular basis.  This should be viewed more as an emergency procedure.

Here are two links on how you can get the van battery charged if you run it down.,1065.0.html,968.0.html

636  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The white button on the dash to the left of the steering wheel on: August 08, 2012, 09:07:19 am

Here is a link to a previous post about this subject.,968.0.html

637  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: August 06, 2012, 06:47:19 pm
 Celebrate Cheers Celebrate Cheers

Congratulations on placing your order.  We think you made a super choice.  Hopefully the wait time will go by fast and then you can have the fun of packing it up and hitting the road.


Barry and Sue
638  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gray water by-pass? on: August 04, 2012, 06:20:24 pm
Here is the manufacturer, website and telephone number for the dump valves used by PC.  I have called and talked to them in the past.  They have a good customer service department.

Dump Valves - Barker Auto-Drain - - 1-800-537-9940

Also here is the URL for their manuals

639  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: tow dolly with 2551 on: August 04, 2012, 08:59:04 am

There is a company the provides aftermarket equipment that would allow a vehicle to be towed 4 down.  I have used the information provided by Remco Towing several times.  Also, their customer service is very knowledgeable, assessable and helpful.  Here is a link to their website that provides information on what needs to be done to make a vehicle towable 4 down.  This should be much cheaper than a new car.


640  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: August 03, 2012, 12:16:11 pm
One thing that surprised them was the height of the toilet.  It is plainly too tall for both of them.  They have a question to ask the factory about a lower pedistal....maybe no pedistal.

I do not know about the toilets in the newer models of the 2350 but from the pictures it looks like it is on a pedistal.  But in the 2551, the toilet is much lower since it is a different model toilet and it does not sit on a pedistal.  Having had both the 2350 and now 2551 it was a real surprise when I first used the 2551 after having been used to the 2350.  

They liked our older sliding windows for improved air circulation while parked.  

At first we were not sure if the newer style windows would give us the air circulation but having had both kinds of windows now we find the newer style to work very nice.  Surprisingly you get very good circulation through them.  And the best part is you do not have to worry about them being open if it is raining.  We also like the rimless look on the outside.

It may be the old uncomfortable jack-knife style sofa.

When someone needed to sleep in our 2350 on the sofa I always placed a piece of memory foam underneath the sheets and there were never any complaints.  I would then roll the memory foam up and store it behind the sofa.

It is nice that they had a chance to see your unit so they can now compare the differences between 2007 and 2013.  Hopefully they will be able to pick and chose and get exactly what they want.


641  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Holding Tanks on: August 01, 2012, 05:16:05 pm
Ann and Bob

The size of the tanks (35 black, 23 grey) I think is based upon the plumbing lay out plus where the tanks can be mounted under the PC.  The 2350, 2551 and 2552 have smaller grey tanks and larger black tanks.  All the other models are just the opposite.

Managing the tanks depends upon the campground.  If full hook ups are available I connect the 3" sewer hose, open the grey tank and keep the black tank closed.  When the black tank needs dumping I close the grey tank and let it fill up a little before I dump the black tank.  After I dump the black tank I use the water hose connection on the San-Con to flush the black tank.  Once the black tank is flushed I close the black tank and add a couple of gallons of water to the black tank, add any chemicals and start the whole thing over again.  The finale step is to open the grey tank for one last flushing of the 3" hose.  This is just me - I never have the grey and black tanks open at the same time (do not want any cross contamination) again this is just me.  If the campground does not have sewer hook ups I keep both tanks closed.  When the grey tank fills up I use a blue dumper to empty it.   It usually takes about two weeks before I have to dump the black tank.

642  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: July 31, 2012, 06:21:10 pm
I think the most important thing to remember when looking at the different models that Phoenix Cruiser has to offer is that if you want something "Different"  do NOT hesitate to talk to Kermit about it.  Kermit will take any suggestions you might have and give them serious consideration.  He will let you know if he can accomodate your request and will let you know why he can't.  You could even design your own floor plan and show it to him and he will tell you if it is possible.  If you are unsure of anything just ask Kermit and he will be honest with you. 

In 2008, we were the first ones to ever ask for a corian sink extension and he now does this all the time.  He has gone to a larger TV because of Ron's installation.  We had two pages of changes on our 2012 model and we absolutely love our 2551.  He went to the moon and back for "gradygal" (George and Judi) and has built two very SPECIAL units for them.

I think the best thing about Phoenix USA is you can order something special!

643  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 or ? What did you choose and why? on: July 29, 2012, 06:29:06 pm
Before I tell you about our buying choices Ill tell you how we use our unit.  We stay anywhere from 1 day to 3 months at a time.  We just got back from a 3 day trip to a local campground.  Our next trip is scheduled for a month out East (traveling from place to place).  I also have our winter planned for 3 months in Florida (weve done this for six years now).  
We started in 2003 with a travel trailer that had a slide but no permanent bed.  My requirement was that the next unit MUST have a permanent bed.  I got really tired every night and every morning dealing with putting the bedding away and then taking it out again at night.  I also insisted that we find a unit with NO carpet.  

In 2008 we bought the 2350 with a slide (E350).  It was a great unit.  The only changes we made to the unit were changing the front shocks to Bilstein and adding a Blue OX trac bar.  Once we added the trac bar it drove like a dream.  What I got really tired of was the corner bed.  It was difficult to make, especially when changing sheets.    And for two people (175 lbs and 100 lbs) it seemed to get smaller and smaller.  Watching TV was also a bit difficult and it was hard to have another couple come to visit because of lack of seating.  

We now have a 2012 2551 with a slide (bought it in October, 2011) (E450).  We absolutely think this is the best unit for us.  It is the largest unit that will fit in our garage and when we ordered it we had all of our wants and needs included.  We do not have any power seats so this allows both the drivers seat and passenger seat to swivel thus seating for four is very comfortable.   We installed our own TV on a swivel mount so that viewing TV is no issue for us.  We opted for the sofa with the large drawer underneath so storage is not an issue.  The bathroom space is great and the beds are the most comfortable we have ever slept in (and easy to make).  All three of our units have had slides and we have never had an issue with the slides.  We have stayed in parking lots overnight (just kept the slide in), we have stayed in zero degree weather (have never been cold) and we have stayed in it anywhere from 1 day to 3 full months (and never complained about space).  This unit drives very nice right out of the factory.  Even though the 2551 is 3 feet longer than the 2350, the longer vehicle is not any harder to drive than the shorter one.  In fact, we find the 2551 to drive even easier than the 2350.

We have gone with a toad and without depending on our need for transportation once we are parked.  The E450 with a V10 has had ample power in any driving situation that we have encountered.  We have found that the larger rear end of the E450 makes the E450 a little more responsive than the E350.

644  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: OOPs, we did it again: Again on: July 23, 2012, 07:55:03 am
Syd and Margo

     We'll be there.  The party is at George and Judi's PC Cheers

Barry and Sue
645  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A/C problem again on: July 22, 2012, 12:27:01 pm
According to Dometic, here is how the fan and compressor are suppose to operate depending on your settings:

Cool - Cool Mode
In the Cool mode the system will cycle the compressor On and Off based on the room air temperature and the temperature set-point on the Single Zone LCD thermostat. The fan will turn on first followed
by the compressor in approximately 2 minutes. In this mode there are 3 fan speed selections:

Lo - (LOW): The fan operates continuously at low speed. The compressor cycles ON and OFF.

Hi - (HIGH): The fan operates continuously at high speed. The compressor cycles ON and OFF.

Au - (AUTO): When auto fan is selected the fan speed will vary depending on the difference between the temperature set-point and the room air temperature. In auto fan the compressor and the fan
will cycle On and Off with the thermostat.

When the difference is:
>5 The fan operates on HIGH
<4 The fan operates on LOW

Compressor Time Delay
A time delay of approximately two minutes occurs any time the compressor is required to begin the cooling cycle.

Dometics literature also states that the operation on High Fan/Cooling mode will give optimum or maximum efficiency in high humidity or high outside temperatures.
Starting the air conditioner early in the morning and giving it a "headstart" on the expected high outdoor ambient will greatly improve its ability to maintain the desired indoor temperature.

We found these on/off cycles annoying at first until we understood how it is suppose to work.  Ours works exactly as described above.  We generally keep it on Au.

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