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631  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: T/P on: October 06, 2011, 06:37:39 pm

    Since we all must take responsibility equally, then I say if George makes you dump then he must do the cooking. HiThere

632  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Towing with a PC on: October 04, 2011, 07:27:48 pm

I towed a 4500 pound  trailer for six years before we got our PC.  The first 2 years I used a 2003 explorer with a 113" wheelbase.  The light weight of the SUV and the short wheelbase made the experience less than desirable.  The last 4 years I used a F150 with a 144" wheelbase.  The heavier  truck and longer wheelbase made a world of difference.  

Even though the 2100 PC has a wheelbase of 138" and should have more than enough weight and power to handle a light weight trailer that is not the major area of concern.

A motorhome was never designed to tow a trailer.  I have a couple thoughts you might want to consider:

   The  Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) for the rear axle.  A 5000 pound travel trailer will present 500 - 750 pounds of tongue weight to the motorhome and thus to the rear axle.  Depending on how the motorhome is loaded and packed this may over load the rear axle.  The added rear weight may also make the front end feel lighter and affect the steering characteristics.
   The existing hitch is most likely rated at 5000 pounds and might need to be upgraded.

Also, I'm a basic nut for safety and try to keep at least a 20% margin of safety on all vehicle ratings.

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
This is the maximum safe actual weight of your vehicle. If you exceed this weight, the vehicle's engine, transmission, brakes, and so on will be stressed beyond their design limits.

Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR)
This is the maximum safe weight of your combined vehicle and trailer. This weight includes all people, luggage, and other material. If your combined towing setup exceeds this weight, your vehicle's engine, transmission, brakes, and so on will be stressed beyond their design limits.

Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR)
This is the maximum safe weight that can be placed on your front or rear wheels. The two numbers are likely to be different to account for engine weight and trailer tongue weight and luggage. If you exceed this weight rating on either the front or rear tires, you can create a dangerous driving situation or even damage your vehicle.

The idea sounds good and could solve your space problems but as you see there are many things that need to be considered.

One last thought.  Maybe, you might want to check on a trade in and a new or slightly used larger PC.  Then just add a tow car and your ready to

633  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Leveling jacks on: October 01, 2011, 07:05:10 pm
Just to emphasis a previous postingby RMMPE.  The leveling jacks are not just for leveling they also make great stabilizing jacks on level sites.  I put them down just enough to steady the PC that way I get no motion when we move about inside.

634  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: T/P on: October 01, 2011, 06:50:49 pm

   We do the toilet paper test to determine what is good.  Take two sheets of any toilet paper and place them in a 16oz glass.  Fill the glass about half way or so with water.  Shake.  See how fast it breaks up. 
We have found that angel soft is the best.  Even better than the RV toilet paper they market.   No job is complete until the paper work is finished!! Yahoo!

635  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tires for Sprint Phoenix Cruiser on: September 29, 2011, 09:22:09 am

When tires are in direct contact with concrete the concrete will suck the lubricating oils out of the tires.  Whenever I park a vehicle for any length of time I always have a nonporous substance between my tires and the concrete.

636  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Length of Camping Trip on: September 28, 2011, 09:49:30 am

My brother-in-law started camping with his 2 kids (19 and 21 now) 12 years ago.  They have been to 38 states and his kids still talk about their RV trips.  It was a great experience for them as I'm sure it will be for your family.  We often took trips with them and had a great time.  We even hiked with them to the waterfalls of the Grand Canyon (28 miles in three days).  RV'ing offers a rare opportunity for family and friends to connect.

637  Main Forum / Polls / Length of Camping Trip on: September 27, 2011, 02:11:20 pm
Just interested in seeing how long people spend in their Phoenix Cruiser.  Add any tips that make your long stays more enjoyable.  It goes without saying, your traveling companion is at the top of that list.  Also, share any problems (and hopefully solutions) you have encountered during long stays.
638  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New first-time PC owner on: September 25, 2011, 12:04:13 pm
Just another point of view, since we did not need the extra seating we deleted the lounge chair and had the factory install storage cabinets.

Here is a link to and earlier posting with pictures.,158.msg560.html#msg560

639  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tires for Sprint Phoenix Cruiser on: September 23, 2011, 09:43:36 am
I have had tire problems in the past and found that the DOT markings provide some good information.  Especially when it comes to age and plant of origin.  NHTSA would be a good source of information if there is a problem with these tires.

Tires manufactured after 2000 have the following DOT format.

AA= Manufacturing Plant, Includes country
BB= Tire Size
CCCC= Discretionary use of manufacturer
DD=Week of year manufactured
EE= Year of manufacturer

I have also heard RV tires should be replaced every 4 or 5 years but most of the time it is in reference to travel trailers.   The PC uses light truck tires which have different characteristics than trailer tires.  This question  might need further research before the correct answer can be found.

640  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: QR Codes on: September 20, 2011, 04:13:28 pm
How is this one?
641  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tow Vehicle and Insurance on: September 20, 2011, 09:51:16 am

   We have our cars and MH insured with Hartford.  Our toad is a 2004 Chevy Cavalier.  It is insured like our other vehicle.  It is a 04 with only 29,000 so it is insured with the low mileage rating.  We only put on about 3 or 4K actual mileage per year (even though the tires have much more mileage on them than the odometer).  I don't think the insurance company cares if it is towed or not.  Our Cavaliers motto is "I GO WHERE I'M TOAD!" LOL

Barry abd Sue
642  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Owners of 2551, 2552 and question on: September 19, 2011, 05:53:44 pm
Judi and George,

Is the toilet a Thetford China bowl model and if it is do you get full bowl flush coverage?  Just wondering because I notice the 2012 models have a china bowl and one option on the Thetford site is a spray nozzle to act as a water saver.  I was wondering if this is going to be a mod that we will have to make.

Barry and Sue 
643  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: QR Codes on: September 17, 2011, 09:56:20 pm

644  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Planning trip to utah, Colorado, and the Grand Canyon on: September 15, 2011, 08:31:12 pm

   If you plan to stay at the National Parks book early.  They fill up fast.  We did not plan our trip last September until August of the same year.  Thus last minute booking.  We were fortunate to find  "A" site in Zion due to someone cancelling out.  If you have the Senior Access Pass it is half off the published rates.  Also most NP tours are also half off.  We stayed at Devil's Tower for $6.00 (rustic-no hopokuips).  Had a blast.  That one was not crowded (about 1/2 full). 

   Go to Arches in Moab, Utah.  We did the fiery furnace tour (a 3 hour guided hiking tour with a park ranger).  Really a whole lot of fun and not as hard as they describe.  Half off that as well with the Senior Pass. 

    We stayed at Flying J's on the way and back from Michigan.  At other times we used Passport America Parks (just joined last September) and had great campgrounds for less than $15.00 a night.  The DW looks up all the campgrounds on rv park reviews ahead of time so we know which parks to choose and which to avoid.  Joining Passprt America saved us almost $200 in camping fees. 

     If you want more info feel free to send me an email.

645  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electric sofa/bed question on: September 15, 2011, 08:13:39 pm

     We have had three aero beds in the last fifteen years.  The first one we bought is still going strong.  We used this one in the house as a spare bed.  The second one was used in a travel trailer for almost five years and eventually developed a leak after extensive use.  We replaced it prior to buying the Phoenix Cruiser and we now use it as a spare at home.  We never did buy the double thick one from Aero.  What we did for guest is put two together so one acted as a box spring and the other acted as a mattress.  Thus the height was like that of a regular bed.  Works great when we have guest and have never had a complaint.  We find the Aero beds very comfortable as well.  Just a thought if you want a spare for home.  Then if the one in the RV does give out you can quickly replace it with the one from the house.

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