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166  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 19, 2011, 08:27:06 pm
Bobander did a great job in his reply, so I have little to add.  A note of caution, though.  I thought the tow bar came out of the box ready to use--which I did.  Then I read the instructions/information more carefully and noticed two nuts need to be tightened after aligning the bar to the toad (85 ft/lbs). 
167  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Hood River Oregon for July 4th. on: July 19, 2011, 08:20:40 pm
Sounds like quite an adventure.  Guess you got back to AZ in time for the sand storms.  We live north of you in Pine, and we got some of your dust...  We're off to San Diego next week, and then to the Grand Canyon North Rim, Zion NP, Great Basin NP and ? (haven't decided where else yet) at the end of August. 
168  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 18, 2011, 11:45:30 pm
The Demco Cammander tow bar works great, and it is very easy & quick to hook-up.  It weighs 41 lbs and has a 6,000 lb towing capacity.  The self-supporting arms make hook-up and disconnect more convenient.  When disconnected, the bar swings to either side (both arms on same side, or one arm on each side) for out of the way storage.  It comes with safety cables, and there is an attached rod for holding the wire cord.  I ordered it from PPL Motor Homes ( for $422.  For the same price, you can get the same tow bar with blue ox adapter.  I've only towed the Jeep from Phoenix up the mountain to Pine, AZ (90 miles) so far, but next week I'll be towing it to San Diego.  I'll let you know if there are any issues on the longer trip.
169  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: backup camera on: July 07, 2011, 11:35:34 am
On my 2010 2350, it's a Sony XVM-B62.
170  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: fiber glass roof on: July 07, 2011, 10:43:57 am
What wax does your detail man use?  I keep getting conflicting information from my searches.  Having grown up in the era of paste wax, I know very little about the new liquid and spray waxes --creature of habits formed too many years ago... 
171  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: keyless entry for our 2008 2900 PC on: June 17, 2011, 10:38:55 pm
I bought a kit at autozone, but the instructions had me cutting wires inside the door which I wasn't comfortable doing.  Besides, like Ron, too many keys plus fob  was just too much.  I did have a f100 pickup that had the key pad, and I really liked that.  If it works on a pc, that's what I'd recommend.
172  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Running light bulb replacement on: June 17, 2011, 10:34:52 pm
While you're up there, why don't you wax it, too?
173  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: June 09, 2011, 09:41:16 pm
Found a good price on the Demco products, so ordered today.  Thanks again for the comments and info.  Next step--wiring.
174  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: medicine storage on: June 09, 2011, 09:37:58 pm
Okay, I'm way out of my element here, so just a thought.  When we kayak, we keep sandwiches "cool" by using those freeze packs in a small cooler.  Might that work for medicine if you keep an eye on the melt ratio and temp??
175  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: June 09, 2011, 03:06:26 pm
Thanks for the comments.  I'll look up the demco tow bar and base plate.
176  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: June 07, 2011, 09:30:30 pm
Found a good deal on a 2005 Jeep Wrangler that I couldn't refuse.  Now have to get tow bar, base plate, wiring and brake.  Any recommendations for the tow bar?  I've noticed several good comments for the Blue Ox.  Hopefully, I'll be able to do the installation myself.
177  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tanks on: May 17, 2011, 11:02:08 pm
When things are dark, compassion and humor help brighten the way.  I feel all comments were meant to lighten the mood.  Hope you have many, many years of enjoyment in this lifestyle we call PC.
178  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Suspension and handling on: May 10, 2011, 12:07:11 am
After reading everyone's comments, I decided to replace the shocks and sway (anti sway for the purist) on my 2350.  It took me a full day to replace the stock shocks with Bilstein HD shocks front and back only because I kept having to "find" tools I just had.  Then I replaced the front and back sway bars with Hellwig anti sway bars, and that took me one day for the rear bar and a couple hours for the front bar.  It was a fairly simple installation except for a couple times when I over thought what I was doing.  After installing the front shocks, the test drive didn't show significant difference except for a stiffer ride.  The new rear shocks made a significant difference.  Then the test drive with the new rear sway bar was everything everyone has commented on in this post.  The front sway bar topped off a very satisfactory installation and test drive.  The difference is remarkable!  We're leaving next Monday on a long trip east, and I can't wait to experince the difference on the open road.  I did all the labor myself, and the total cost for these upgrades was $790.70.  The best price I found for the Bilstein HD shocks was through for $82.55 each with no shopping cost or tax.  The Hellwig front sway bar was $199.71, the rear $204.95 and shipping was $55.84 through  All parts were received within 5 days of my order.  I'll get the steering stabilizer after this trip. I'm considering lowering the front tires to 70 psi from the recommended 75 to soften the ride a little.  Anybody have any thought about whether this is a good or bad idea?  Thanks for all your comments on the benefits of these upgrades that truly inspired me to undertake this project.
179  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Coming Soon! on: May 09, 2011, 11:40:33 pm
Ron, I was looking closely at my 2350 today, and concluded that you were right.  The rack and ladder are not needed, and I will delete them from any future pc's I purchase.
180  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I could read the book, but on: May 06, 2011, 01:41:39 pm
With the tv on, press the menu button on the remote and see if source can be changed to dvd.
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