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166  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 3100 owners on: March 01, 2012, 07:39:50 pm
Yes, it has two sets of seatbelts on that forward facing seat only. Dont know positively where theyre anchored, but apparently on the floor by feeling a slot behind the seat. Still, it would be nice to access any additional space if there is any.  But have to assume the space pretty much used by something.
167  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: March 01, 2012, 05:00:13 pm
My two cents worth on a brake system: We have an older Brake Buddy without proportional braking. (Fleetwood paid half the cost to settle a federal complaint against them for misstating towing capability on our Class A.)  I can tell when its working because I can feel it, plus the indicator on the dash.  But with very careful driving, it rarely comes on. The point being that if I had to replace it, I personally wouldnt pay extra for proportional braking with the lighter weight toad we have.
168  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 3100 owners on: March 01, 2012, 04:49:06 pm
The front dinette seat has a very large drawer under it to utilize the space. But the space under the rear dinette seat, where the outlet is, is not accessible. The cushion is not removable (kind of wish it was reversible). Nothing inside or out would seem to utilize that space. But there must be something important in there no space seems to be wasted.
169  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 3100 owners on: March 01, 2012, 01:35:42 pm
Well, what do you know?  Probably other 3100 owners knew this, but we didnt, even after we have owned it for a year and a half.  Theres an additional electrical outlet far back under the forward facing dinette seat.  Probably for a computer.  All the times weve cleaned, weve have never noticed it.  We set up a small Christmas tree on the table in December.  Christmas the first time in Florida still seems a little strange for a northerner.  With no outlet available (we thought), we unfolded the sofa bed in order to access the outlet for the Aerobed and used an extension cord.

So my outlet count is 12, including what must be one in the compartment above the pantry for the microwave, which is screwed shut. Living/cab, 4 (no Aerobed; 3?); kitchen 3; bedroom, 3; bath, 1; exterior, 1.  First class . . . as always.

170  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 3100 owners on: February 29, 2012, 06:19:23 pm
DownByTheRiver, not sure what you trying to say.  But for us, livability was the most important thing.  Frankly, we dont watch all that much TV.  My recliner is comfortable and makes working on the computer easy (I am a webmaster for four non-profits, gratis).  Also, we are avid readers, and the sofa and recliner work out very well for us.  Not quite sure how you can make valid observations with owning a PC.
171  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question for 3100 owners on: February 29, 2012, 01:17:54 pm
Yep, added a chair (recliner).  We previously had a Class A with all the trimmings.  In 2006, we sold the Class A ourselves and downsized to a PC, Model 2900, which is no longer made and was bought from a dealer.  This was before mostly factory-only sales by PC.  Our dealer went out of business which, I guess, is one good reason PC is now mostly factory-only sales.   The 2900 had a small swivel chair, see floor plan below.  Beside the chair was a small triangular cabinet with a top that I used a lot (also on the 2700 and 2910), more on that table little top later.  We really liked the 2900 but missed the dinette from the Class A.  And the rear slideout didnt suit us as we couldnt use the bed or access most of the closets and cabinets unless the rear slide was open.  Also, the bath layout was not the best for us.  Both would also be true of the 2700 and 2910.

We went to the Phoenix Owners Clubs annual meeting in Branson, MO which turned out to be quite an expensive trip for us.  Kermit was there with the new 3100, and we ended up trading for one.  The more open floor plan of the 3100 made a dramatic difference even though its only 10 longer than the 2900 (and the 2910).  Also, it has a longer wheel base (better ride but larger turning radius), bigger gray tank, and an extra outside storage compartment.  We would have preferred a single double bed, but the twins work fine, and the bed is actually longer, my feet dont hang over!  The bath arrangement is a major, major improvement.  We made several changes when it was built send me an e-mail if youd like details.  But back to the chair

We bought a Euro chair, recliner with ottoman like this: but dont use the ottoman.  See pic below.  There are many, many Euro chair makes/models available.  I tried to choose one with the narrowest width.  I didnt spring for the extra money for the leather personal choice.  When I recline, I just prop my feet on the turned-around passenger chair which works fine.  When we watch TV, Im in the recliner; my wifes asleep on the sofa  Grin.  I keep my laptop on a cushioned lap table which I often set on the passenger chair when not in use, or on the floor between the seats.  Im pretty sure PC offers a recliner to match, but Im not sure there would be room for the flip up footrest.  Im very happy with this arrangement.  We rarely use the sofa bed but can by moving the chair in front of the dinette for the night.  And as for the sofa bed, if you rarely use it, Id recommend our sofa bed, no longer used but may be available.  It has a full width/depth drawer under it which is huge (see pic).  Easy access for my computer, printer, and long items.  It requires an Areobed which weve had no problems with but rarely use.

I was concerned about not having the small side table that I had on the 2900. I solved that by using the cabinet next to the chair, see pic.  I bought a plastic cutting board at Walmart and cut it to fit the opening.  Great for my coffee warmer in the morning, a cold beverage in the afternoon, and a Happy Hour drink before supper.  Good place for other things too like the TV remote.  No need to clear it off when traveling just close the cabinet door and go.  And youll find that that wall of cabinets behind the passenger seat holds a ton of stuff.

I know that many folks want to stay with shorter models, but this works for us.  We do travel.  Been to Alaska.  Drove Route 66: and the Pacific Coast Highway:   Weve been in 49 states by RV (and Hawaii, Guam and Europe by air).  But we also stay for weeks in some places; weve been in Florida for the past three months at an RV resort.  So the 3100 floor plan works great for that.  And boy do we get visitors Class A folks wanting to see what the PC is all about.  nod
172  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: February 28, 2012, 07:19:39 am
Wow! Talk about using a cannon to shot a flea!  Grin   Ive heard all those arguments before, especially from my loquacious bother-in-law.   Bottom line: buying from an American car company creates jobs and profits for America and Americans.  Well never own a car from a foreign car company.  Not when there are plenty of cars made by American car companies rated as good as or better than those of foreign car companies.  Weve had several Class A motorhomes and other RVs and several tow cars.  The HHR is certainly the best weve ever had as a tow car.  And driving it is great sits up straight like the PC. 
173  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: February 27, 2012, 12:37:46 pm
We tow a Chevy HHR, 4 down, automatic, no body mods (but do remove a fuse).  Tows great, no mileage registers, lots of room in the back for everything.  Best, its from an American car company none of the profit on the car left the American economy and went to a foreign country. nod
174  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Any pets travel with you? on: February 20, 2012, 05:39:27 pm
We would like to get a cat but are unsure of how well they travel.  We had a cat pre-PC, and she was terrified of riding in a car.  Was that typical?  Does it work best starting of as a kitten?  Would prefer to get an adult cat
175  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Troubleshooting electrical problems in rear camera hookup on: February 20, 2012, 05:32:32 pm
Our first PC was a 2006.  We didnt have an intermittent problem it just quit working.  And during a month trip.  And out of warranty.  Called the manufacture (dont remember the name), and they replaced it when we got home.  Have a 2011 now with a Sony, its great.
176  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Batteries on: February 19, 2012, 02:44:31 pm
We leave our 12v on all the time, even when on shore power.  Were now over five years in a PC (on our second one) and never had problems.  The reason I like to leave it on is because its not unusual for the shore power to go off for a while.  Usually during a storm but sometimes for no obvious reason.  If that happens, everything still works if the 12v is on full time.  We dont use shore power when stored not available.
177  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Window Awnings vs. Sun Screens on: February 16, 2012, 01:39:33 pm
I can understand viewing the shades as fancy, but I think after having them, most folks would use the word practical.  Sure is for us being parked for a week up to weeks at a time.  nod
178  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Window Awnings vs. Sun Screens on: February 11, 2012, 04:40:29 pm
We also love these shades.  Our shades are pictured on the company website:  One great feature is the ability to roll down the two front side windows allowing a breeze through with the side shades on.  And with the front shade on, the cab stays cools on most days.  Wink
179  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Advice regarding purchasing a PC. We are new to the PC and B+ World on: February 04, 2012, 02:13:46 pm
According to the video ( on the replacement probes, its not the paper on the probes but scum on the walls that transmits the electrical charge that fools the sensors.  The ice cube trick seems to be a temporary fix.  I read one story on installing them: the standard sensors are held in place by a rubber grommet that expands inside when the screws are tightened and will come out with gentle prying as opposed to pushing them on into the tank...???  Or just leave them in place and drill new holes.
180  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Advice regarding purchasing a PC. We are new to the PC and B+ World on: February 04, 2012, 07:05:08 am
The light over the sink was factory installed and the light switch is over the tank heater switch (same switch but unmarked).   Its 12v.  We love it, best of mods we made.  Yes, the white tube is for a standard sewer hose.  Were in Florida (, been here two months and will be here another month.  The standard sewer hose works great for this type of camping.  I dont leave the drain open though.   The 3100 has a larger gray tank than other models (50 gal.).  Just open the black tank when full, then the gray tank to rinse.  Much faster than the pump, less noise, and less wear on the pump.  But thinking about replacing the sensors on the black tank they show full all the time.
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