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1  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: RV Repair Flowchart on: June 13, 2014, 07:18:46 pm
I know that is meant to be a joke, but I carry both items, should I be worried?  Grin
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: refrigerator still a problem on gas on: June 13, 2014, 05:42:12 pm
The refer will not operate on gas if the battery disconnect switch is not on.  To turn it on push the "use" side of the switch.

If your overhead lights work when not on shore power, then the switch is on and this is not your problem but I thought I would mention it anyway.

Bob A
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: traveling I 70 west of Denver on: June 13, 2014, 01:04:03 pm
Jan and Dick, sorry we got off your question.  Is there then anyone out there that pulled a toed over some interstate highway mountain passes?

Good job getting back to subject.

We have 30,000 miles on our 2010 2551 towing a 4,000 pound Wrangler throughout the western states.  Over too many mountain passes to count or remember the elevations.  Never a problem, handles the tight curves fine and power to get over all the passes.  On the steepest climbs you will slow down, but all the other RVs and trucks are as well.  Just be sure to engage the "tow/haul" feature as it will save your brakes on the down hill, it works very well.

I now have so much confidence in the PC that I don't think about the route, just go and enjoy.

Bob A
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: traveling I 70 west of Denver on: June 12, 2014, 06:29:32 pm
Bobander, I would also like to disagree and / or agree, but can't find any info except from another forum.😟

Can you point me to a legit source of info, where you gathered this?

Here are links to the 2014 Ford brochures for the Class A and C motorhome chassis, it has been this way for many years not just 2014.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2014/Class_C_brochure-2014_LoRes.pdf

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2014/Class_A_brochure-2014_LoRes.pdf
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: traveling I 70 west of Denver on: June 12, 2014, 11:54:32 am
They put this engine in 30+ class A's, and you know they tow..  

At the risk of appearing rude and a know it all, and getting some "disagrees", I offer the following:

The V10 in the F53 chassis class A's has 3 valve heads where the E450/350 chassis has 2 valve heads.  They say this is because of the limited room in the E450/350.

The difference is 362hp and 457lb-ft torque in the 3 valve vs 305hp and 420lb-ft torque in the 2 valve, so the class A's have more power for the larger package.

Just trying to be helpful,
Bob A
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: valve extenders and tire pressure monitoring system on: June 03, 2014, 11:22:45 am
I have had flexible extenders on several motorhomes with zero issues. But... i just had the Michelin recall done (Feb.) and found both inner tires flat one morning post the new tires being installed.  I  figured they were just poorly installed and really put the pliers onto them.  One has held air but the other one has subsequently gone flat again.  I have ordered new more expensive extenders to see how they work.   It is a real pain without them so need to install something. 

Are you able to reach the inner wheel stem to tighten the extension without removing the outer?

What did you order and keep us posted on how you like them.

Your experience makes me want to order new extensions when I replace the tires.

Bob A
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: valve extenders and tire pressure monitoring system on: June 03, 2014, 01:24:53 am
Hi Dick,

I too am interested in this subject.  My 2010 PC came with the flexible tire extensions on the rear duallys.  After 30,000 miles they have worked perfectly, never leaked.  I did have to redo the pop rivets holding the angle brackets to the wheel covers as the rivets were working loose.  They do make checking tire pressure very easy, and looks like they could easily support pressure monitors as long as the pop rivets are holding tight.

On another RV forum, there are strong opinions expressed that these flexible extensions are a problem and should be replaced with solid extenders such as the Tire Man brand.  The claim is that the wheel cover can rub through the extension causing a leak.  A few weeks ago I was passing through Ridgecrest CA where Tire Man is located and I stopped in to check them out.  It is a one man shop run by Chuck and he was very friendly and I spent a bit of time with him while he showed me how he makes the extenders and examples mounted on various wheel types.  The issue I have is that the extenders barely stick through the holes in the wheels and would be harder to check pressure.  Also you have to make sure your tire shop knows how to install them and can change tires on a wheel with a 7 inch stem sticking out.

So, I am thinking I will stay with the flexible extenders when I replace my tires as they seem to work great for me.  I think that the issue of the wheel cover rubbing through the extension can be overcome by careful inspection periodically and by use of pressure monitors.  When I replace the tires I will be sure that the extensions are tightened securely on the valve stems and maybe add a drop of removable threadlocker.  My only question is should I buy new flexible extensions or reuse the old ones when replacing the tires.

It will be interesting to hear other PC owner's experiences and opinions and see if there have been any leaking problems, hope not as I don't want to have to rethink my decision.

Bob A
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Does PC-USA Offer A Memory Foam Mattress For Their Permanent Beds? on: April 21, 2014, 05:28:37 pm
Hi Ron,

We bought the Serta 2" memory foam topper in king size and cut it to fit the twin mattresses in our 2551.  It really does the job for us, very comfortable without sinking in, I can actually fall asleep on my back.  Liked it so much that we also have it on our bed at home.

Bob


http://www.overstock.com/Bedding-Bath/Serta-Deluxe-2-inch-Memory-Foam-Mattress-Topper/1080221/product.html?refccid=SYYOBMFSB4FZK22LXOKNHCBNHM&searchidx=3
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Actual length of our 2552 on: February 19, 2014, 07:05:01 pm
Bruce and Sharon,

Just measured our 2012 2551 and it measures 27 feet 2 inches.  That is without a ladder on back so it is to the end of the spare tire cover.  The ladder might extend it a little, not sure.


Barry and Sue

Our 2010 2551 measures the same, 27'-2" to the spare tire cover.  When we were shopping for an RV we took a tape measure with us because the motorhome had to fit in our RV garage.  We never found a motorhome that measured the same as described in their brochure, some manufactures were off by a couple of feet.  The PC length was not bad at 27'-2" compared to and advertised 26'-5", but you have to wonder how do they come up with these measurements and why not just put the actual measurement in the brochures. 

Bob
10  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers? on: February 17, 2014, 08:15:07 pm
Hey, Bob, it was great meeting and talking with you at the Cave Creek Campground last week.  Sorry I wasn't able to have ya'll over to sit around the campfire.  My recuperation from hip replacement is going great, and we're back at our place in the Tonto National Forest looking out at a beautiful blue sky.  Remember, we'll be camp hosts at San Simeon State Park in Cambria starting in July--so if you get a chance to come to the coast, we'll see you there.  Have a great time in Arizona and a safe trip back to California.

Hi Larry,

Yes, it was great meeting you and your wife and putting a face to a fellow PC forum user, I still can't believe how well you were doing less than a week after surgery.   Your PC was only the second one we have seen during our four weeks in Arizona, the first was at Catalina State Park but they left the next day before we could stop by.

We are on the road home to Northern California today, my wife tore something in her calf yesterday and after going to urgent care and getting a boot to imobilize it we decided to go home and have it checked more thoroughly by an Ortho doc.  We had to cancel the next three weeks at McDowell and Usery but we figured she couldn't get around anyway.

We envy you spending the summer at San Simeon, it is one of our favorite costal parks.  We will be near there in May for the West Coast PC gathering at Pismo Beach.

Hope we see you again down the road,  Bob
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical problem on: December 24, 2013, 06:40:08 pm
Hi Triumph,

At 12v it looks like the batteries are dead, a fully charged battery will show 12.7 v.  Go to my post linked above and you will see that when on shore power the red light may be on but the relay could be open and the batteries will not charge.  You need to plug into shore power and press the switch on the use position and the bateries will be charging.  Check this by watching the volts on the inverter panel, it should show near 14 volts, and then push the switch between use and store and you will see the voltage go down to a resting voltage when in the store position and back up to a  charging voltage in the use position, even though the red light stays on.

Bob A
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery Cut off Switch on: December 22, 2013, 12:14:57 pm
yep, if you are plugged in, it is always on. The switch only works for long term storage when not plugged in. It only helps if you forget to turn off something. If you don't, don't worry about the switch.

Hi Tom,

Actually, the switch and relay both work when plugged into shore power, just the light doesn't go out when the relay is open (store).  I have verified this by checking voltage on both sides of the relay in various configurations.  When I am plugged in for an extended period, I sometimes open (store) the relay so that the batteries are not being charged uneccesarily.  This can be verified by watching the battery voltage on the inverter panel, it will go down to a resting voltage with the relay in the open (store) position, and then go up to a charging voltage in the closed (use) position.  The amount of charging voltage depends on the state of the batteries.

Bob
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery Cut off Switch on: December 21, 2013, 07:41:15 pm
This is for my 2010 2551, the relay and converter are located differently in some other models, but the schematic is probably the same.  The battery disconnect relay is located under the passenger side bed next to the converter/charger, the disconnect switch and light are located next to the entry door.

The disconnect relay is a latching relay that mechanically latches in the closed or open position after receiving the corresponding 12V signal from the battery disconnect switch.  The disconnect switch is a two way momentary contact switch that momentarily sends the signal to the relay for both the "USE" and "STORE" positions.  Being momentary means that the switch does not stay in either position, just returns to center when released.  The "STORE" position is the disconnected or open position for the relay.  You can see in the schematic that even with the relay in the disconnected open position that the light at the doorway switch will be powered and stay on if the converter is plugged into shore power and thereby providing power to the 12V circuits.  When not plugged into shore power the switch light will go off in the store position.




14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: MICHELIN TIRE RECALL on: December 19, 2013, 04:28:16 pm
My 2010 PC tires are not in the recall, but I will need to replace them in a couple of years.  I am curious if any of you who are now replacing tires are doing anything different with the valve extensions on the rear duallys.

I have had no problems with the braided flexible extensions, but have heard some say that they are prone to leak.  The recommendation is to replace with the one piece long stems that are shaped to extend out for access, no extensions.

One example:
http://www.dickmantires.com/Tire_pressure/Duallyvalve/dually_valves.html

The one piece long stems cost about $150 for the four rear wheels and require some expertise to install.  I am happy with the flexible extensions installed by PC, just wondering if anyone is changing to the solid stems and how it went.

Thanks, Bob A
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: MICHELIN TIRE RECALL on: December 16, 2013, 12:14:27 pm
More info:

http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/20131213/NEWS/131219944/michelin-recalls-1-3-million-lt-tires-for-tread-air-loss
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