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331  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 Photos up with Slideshow on: July 22, 2010, 12:03:54 pm
Ummmm, she didn't say it was a 2010, she said it was the new model 2910.  Good job Aimee and thanks for the photos.

Bob
332  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Inverter on: July 06, 2010, 08:32:54 pm
What RV year and inverter model do you have, maybe my 2010 RV with Xantrex XM 1800 operates different from yours.

On mine, when plugged in to 110, the 110 passes through to the items you described with the inverter on or off at the control panel on the wall.  Also, the battery switch has no effect on the inverter passing through the 110.
Bob
333  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Inverter on: July 06, 2010, 12:48:35 pm
Are you plugged into shore power?  On shore power, the 110 volts passes through the inverter to the items you described whether the inverter is on or off.

If not on shore power then the inverter needs to be on to provide 110 volts (from the batteries) to those items.  When the inverter is providing the 110 volts from the battery (not on shore power) the inverter will shut down if the battery voltage gets too low or if the output load is above its limits.

Bob
334  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: electric couch vs new version on: July 04, 2010, 06:14:19 pm
We purchased a new 2551 in April with the new sofa/air bed.  When we were shopping for the RV, we had an opportunity to sit in one with the old electric fold-out sofa and the new sofa/air bed.  We found that the new sofa is much more comfortable to sit on and it sticks out 6 or 8 inches less than the old one when in the sofa position, a big difference considering the room available.

We slept on the air bed once and it is ok - not great, but it is for the grandkids and they think it is great.  We are really happy with the new one for sitting comfort and more floor space.

Hope this helps,
Bob
335  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 12, 2010, 01:03:26 pm

Maybe your 2551 is 10'-1" if you had it empty, no gear, no water, just a couple gallons of gas in the tank, and then with the max tire pressure of 85psi.  Kind-of-a worst case condition.  Who really knows.

I always store ours in the garage with a full tank of gas & gear, but no water, and 65/70 psi in the tires.

Good point Ron, My 2551 has full gas, no water, 1/2 gear, 80/75 psi tire pressure when measured.  Maybe the gas and 1/2 gear load accounts for lower height.  I should check again someday when conditions would give maximum height just to know.

Bob
336  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 11, 2010, 08:58:34 pm
Hi Mary,

I have a new 2551 that we picked up in April.  I just went out to the garage and measured the height.  It measures 9'-11.5" to the top of the AC, the AC is 11" tall.  I am surprised that it is lower than the spec height of 10'-1", maybe that is for the standard AC and now they are installing the low profile AC, you might ask Kermit about that.

If the Dish is 15" as you indicated, then the top of the dish would be 4" taller than the AC which would result in a height of 10'-3.5" on my 2551.  Keep in mind that the roof slopes down to the front a couple of inches so you would need to account for the location of the dish relative to the AC.

I also store my PC in the garage and the opening is a nominal 10' wide x 12' tall, plenty of room for the PC.

Hope this helps,
Bob
337  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dead batteries on: June 07, 2010, 03:15:16 pm
If you go back a few replies you will see that I was respoding to the question why the battery disconnect light stays on when the battery is disconnected while on shore power.  LG responded that he had to leave the battery connected to get 12vdc to the roof air thermostat for the roof air to run.  I was responding that in my 2010 2551, when on 115vac shore power I can disconnect the batteries and the 115vac to 12vdc converter will supply the 12vdc to the thermostat and also the refer control panel so both the roof air and refer will run even with the batteries disconnected.  This seems like a good idea so that my batteries are not being charged continously while on shore power, avoids potential overcharging.

In answer to your comment that 2010 models have only an inverter; there is a converter to go from shore power or generator 115vac to 12vdc to run 12v circuits and charge the battery.  There is also an inverter to go from 12vdc to 115vac to run the tv, dvd and a few 115vac outlets while drycamping.

Bob
338  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dead batteries on: June 07, 2010, 12:20:53 pm
LG

On my 2010 the roof air runs with the house batteries disconnected, the refer runs too.  The 12 volts required to operate the thermostat and the refer control panel is supplied by the converter even with the house batteries disconnected.

Bob
339  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dead batteries on: June 04, 2010, 08:03:15 pm
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He would like to know if the red light on the battery switch (which says it's either "in use" or "stored") ever goes out. He keeps it in "stored" position, but the red light stays on. Is this normal?

On my 2010 2551, I have determined that the batteries are disconnected from the converter and all loads when the stored switch is pushed even though the red light stays on.  When not on shore power the light goes off, when on shore power the light stays on because the light wire is connected to the converter side of the isolating relay.  So listen for the relay click when pressing the store switch and the batteries will be disconected from the converter even if the light stays on when on shore power.  This is good in that you can have everything run off the converter on shore power and the batteries will not be charging and possibly overcharged.

Bob
340  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Slide Update on: June 04, 2010, 07:52:33 pm
We were in Tempe AZ in Feb at a PC dealer looking at a 2010 2551 model and it had a serious indent in the vinyl flooring in front of the Refer.  We decided to order one from the factory and picked it up in Tempe in April.  Our unit does not have any indentation in the vinyl flooring.  In fact, when the slide is retracted, the top contacts the outer wall first and then the bottom is pulled in tight for another 1/2 inch which results in the roller lifting up off the flooring.  I don't know if this is intentional but it eliminates the indentation problem.

Bob
341  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 04, 2010, 07:41:42 pm
3 Months to Canada, that sounds great, our longest trip has been 4 weeks, maybe we can go longer now that we have a more comfortable rig.

We normally go to Moab in the Fall to do some Jeepin, just north of Arizona so who knows - maybe we will run into you along the way.

Just thinking, wouldn't it be fun to post a message on PC Forum while on the road and see if any other PC owners were in the area.  I might try that next trip, look for my post in the "Phoenix on the Road" category.

Have a great trip,
Bob and Chris
342  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 04, 2010, 05:59:27 pm
Hi all,

We took delivery of our 2010 2551 w/slide in April.  We had two truck/campers for the last 25 years and it was time to quit climbing up and over each other getting in and out of bed, which we are doing more often at night as we age.  After lots of research we decided that we wanted to see a Phoenix Cruiser in person.  We live in Northern California near Lake Tahoe and there weren't any PCs nearby.  So in February we headed to Arizona and stopped by the PC dealer in Tempe -- Go Green RV.  We ordered our 2551 and went back to Tempe to pick it up in April.  Go Green RV is a small outfit and the owner, Kevin, is great to deal with, no pressure and lots of patience.

After we picked it up we toured around Arizona for 3 weeks to make sure everything was working before heading home.  We really enjoyed the RV, much more room than the truck/camper and plenty of power to tow our Jeep Wrangler.  We are doing some mods on the unit and I plan to share them in another post.

Looking forward to meeting other PC owners on the road,
Bob and Chris

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