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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Trik-L-Start installation on: January 30, 2015, 08:46:08 am
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to keep the chassis battery charged when plugged in to shore power.

Believe me, this simple solution works fine. I only have to turn on the switch for a day about once every few weeks.

Replace or have Phoenix replace the little momentary on switch that is on left side of your steering wheel with an on-off switch. My 2006 2551 had this.
Phoenix went to a momentary switch for some reason,

Contrary to what people believe this switch is not to start your RV, the wires from the relay it activates are too small. But it will trickle charge your battery. Phoenix built in a safety feature. Ask Kermit. When you turn on your ignition switch to start the relay is deactivacted so you CANNOT pull too much current through the relay wiring.

I have been doing it this way with 2 cruisers for 9 years,
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery switch on dash on: January 30, 2015, 08:29:29 am
I leave mine on for 2 months at a time while my RV is in storage so that my solar arrays keep the engine battery charged. No problem. Its a relay, you are just keeping it energized. No dusty cycle involved.

The replacement switch is less that $10 and a 5 minute installation.
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery switch on dash on: January 23, 2015, 10:57:02 am
Phoenix changed it from a on-off switch to a momentary switch a few years ago. Since it takes a while to get power back into the engine battery you must hold it on. You cannot use your coach batteries as starter batteries. In fact even if you are holding it on as soon as you hit the ignition switch the relay drops out so you don't over load the wires.

However there is no reason you can't leave this switch on to fully charge your battery. What I did was go to Advance Auto parts and bought the identical switch, except it is on-off. The switch just easily pops out and the switch has spade terminals so it plugs right in.

I am on the beach in Mexico and about once a month I throw the switch on so my engine battery recharges, There is a constant load on and in a month it drops from 12.7 v to 12,5 v.

If that switch is on and you close your side door even with your step override on your step will go in. Another safety feature.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Batteries are not charging while plugged into 110? on: January 12, 2015, 09:33:01 am
Sounds like converter is not working or the switch is off at the door.
2015 models have different converters, I think. If batteries charge with motor they must have good connections.

If plugged in you do not need to turn the inverter on.

At 12.1 volts batteries are 50% capacity. At 11.2 volts they are dead.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Disappointing gas mileage on: December 31, 2014, 07:57:55 pm
The brand nor octane matters. But they put 10% alcohol in most gasoline. This will drop your mileage by at least 0.5 mpg.

I had a E350 once that got 5 mpg, took it to Ford. They found that the air ducting to the fuel injection system was not installed correctly and air was leaking. They fixed under warranty and mileage jumped to 10 mpg.
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ford 350 vs 450 on: December 31, 2014, 07:42:46 pm
I had a 2006, 2551 with E350. It was fine with no modifications. It got  1 mpg better gas mileage than my 2552 on a E450.

I had no problems at all.

What happened is they went to a wider and heavier slide out which made them go to the E450. But there is no overweight problem with 2006 model.

If it drives OK for you buy it.

I just noticed you are in Wis, that's where mine ended up after I traded it in. Does it have 4 solar panels on it?
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: REAR AXEL OVER LOADED on: November 02, 2014, 05:50:41 pm
Be sure to watch your speed. Your speedometer will be off a lot. If you have a GPS, go by that speed reading.

I put oversize tires on a van once and the first time I past a cop on the interstate I got a speeding ticket. I was off by 7 mph.
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: October 31, 2014, 01:57:06 pm
Ron, They just dropped the tray about 1-1/2". Slides in/out without any clearance problem.
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling our 2551 mattresses on: October 30, 2014, 02:12:10 pm
There may be some owners of old 2551 who want to upgrade.
The newer 2551/2552 mattresses are much more comfortable and maybe their old ones are wearing out.

I would pick a price and hope someone close to you is interested.
I sold my old 2006 2551 to someone in WI.

Shipping is out of the question.

Good luck
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Cabinet door latches on: October 14, 2014, 02:24:14 pm
I shopped around and found the best price at Amazon for genuine Southco Latch c3-805. It is listed as Southco Inc SC-4325 Side-Mount Grabber Catch, 5 Lbs, a genuine Southco Latch c3-805.
http://www.amazon.com/Southco-SC-4325-Side-Mount-Grabber-Catches/dp/B002I03LEM/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413306610&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Southco+Latch+c3-805
Price is $4.71 plus $9.21 for shipping as many as you want.
You can buy 3lb, 5 lb or 10 lb pull for the same price.
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Cabinet door latches on: October 13, 2014, 10:07:12 am
I replaced about 12 of them, which Phoenix replaced free of charge.

The good latch (5 lb pull) is  Southco Latch c3-805, do not buy one from brd. these are the bad ones.
Southco cost about $8 plus shipping, or free>$50

Phoenix uses a Chinese latch distributed by brdsupply.
The plastic fails and it comes apart.
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2013 model 2551 12 volt batteries OK? on: October 11, 2014, 09:31:45 am
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As for your solar panel charging issue, my first thought is charging voltage.  For 12v batteries a charge voltage is around 14 v.  What do you get from your solar setup?
 - Dick

Trojan T105 batteries that Phoenix installed on my rig indicates on their data sheets,  at least 14.8v to charge and 15.5V to equalize your batteries and 13.2V float after fully charged.
Most solar charge controllers are set up to do this correctly. Your 110-12v converter is not.

Also as noted all 6 volt batteries are almost 11" high, so that the tray must be lowered if your rig was built for 12v batteries. After April 2012 I believe Phoenix did this.

What happens to most campers is that their batteries never get fully charge so they observe that they don't get out the amp-hours that they believe they should.
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Future newbie with a couple questions on: October 11, 2014, 09:06:57 am
Batteries - 2-6v Golf cart batteries have plenty of amp hours which should be slightly more that 2-12v batteries. They work MUCH better for deep discharge than 12v marine batteries. That is why Phoenix switched in late 2012. Solar charging is a must because the converters that they use NEVER get your batteries fully charged. They don't put out a high enough voltage. The Ford alternator will full charge them when driving or if no solar arrays, use a portable battery charger the puts out at least 14.8v to charge and 15.5 to equalize your batteries.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Full-timers on: September 30, 2014, 12:08:06 pm
We full time in our 2552 all winter in Mexico. We have been doing a Mexico blog for the past 6 years. http://khmexico10.blogspot.com/
We also have a website where we show all our travels. http://keelhauler.org/RV/

We are on our second Phoenix Cruiser and our 3rd motorhome.

We have put a lot of mileage on all of them.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Disappointing gas mileage on: September 30, 2014, 11:56:48 am
Theoretically as long as it is the octane it is designed for, using a higher octane would actually lower your mpg.

Brand has no effect, all comes out of a limited number of refineries. I see all the brands using the same refinery.

What has the biggest effect is % of alcohol they put in the fuel. If you can get 100% gasoline you will improve your mpg by as much as 10%.
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