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1006  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: battery storage/ maint on: November 21, 2011, 07:05:22 am
Why do you remove the house battery? You leave the engine battery in and remove the house battery? I have been to West Yellowstone, Mt where it went below minus 30 degrees and never had any problems with a battery. Do you think the everyone that lives in that kind of cold brings there batteries in at night? Yes you can read on the internet to remove the batteries but this is a case of you have to think for yourself. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Ron is one of the guys telling you to bring them in, yet he keeps his motorhome in a heated garage. I bet in the winter when he goes to work and parks outside he leaves the battery in his car.

Read the stuff here and make up your own mind as to what applys to you.
1007  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Flushing The stinky tank on: November 18, 2011, 06:57:00 am
very nicely done.  ThumbsUp

I took my mod off the old PC and returned it to factory specs before trading it in. The first change I made to the new PC was to put the mod on it. One night on the road trying to get all the water out of the hose was enough for me. Grin
1008  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Adding hooks to rear storage on: November 16, 2011, 06:08:34 pm
There is a 4" high by 12" long by 1" thick backer board behind where the hooks are installed. I was just at the factory and asked this same question because I added a hook on my old PC. I did not hit anything with that hook. Bobby and I went looking at how the rear end cap is make and mounted. I want to put a hook in the new PC but have not figured out how just yet.
1009  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: November 11, 2011, 08:43:05 am
Welcome Cordylm,

You will love the PC. We will be at the factory on Monday morning 11/14/11 to trade in our 2350 for a new 2552. Maybe we will see each other. I notice we come from neighboring states.
1010  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: infrared heaters on: November 07, 2011, 12:58:24 pm
we have a park model trailer we are not in but want to keep the place at a reasonable temp. been looking at infrared heaters, they say the use little electric. any one use something like this?

Infrared heaters only heat you not the air. If you are looking to keep things, like water, from freezing, they do not work. We use a small cube heater set on the lowest setting to keep the pipes from freezing. It doesn't seem to add much to the electric bill that I can tell.
1011  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 03, 2011, 03:18:49 pm
Back in the 90's we had a Chinook motorhome. It had a dinette on one side and a jack knife sofa on the other. When you put them down they made a bed that went from side to side, much like this layout. It turned out to be hard to get into bed and even harder for the person in the front to get to the bathroom. After awhile I stopped opening the sofa and just slept on the seat. It was good practice for when I got in the dog house at home.  rolling on the floor  I don't think I would get any layout that stopped us from walking back to the bathroom at night. As we get older we tend to use the bathroom more in the middle of the night. Just my thinking but not right for everyone.
1012  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How does your PC ride? on: November 03, 2011, 03:09:12 pm
Thanks George, I will talk to Kermit when I pick up the new PC. Getting closer to that day and I can hardly wait.
1013  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 03, 2011, 08:11:37 am
"If only PC made a 2350 on a Ford E350 diesel chassis..."

I don't think that Ford makes an E350 with a diesel in it. It would be very noisy in the cab. Their Pickups with the diesel are some what noisy.

SA, We live in western Howard county, not that far from you, i bet. If you are interested in seeing my 2350 before I trade it in at the end of next week or just want to talk about PCs, sent me a private message with a phone number I can reach you at.
1014  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How does your PC ride? on: November 02, 2011, 08:24:50 am
Seems a mystery to me that a company like PC wouldn't go ahead and put Bilstein's or Koni shocks on their units right out of the factory.   Seems like something many folks do anyway.
I always thought that PC-USA should offer a "Handling Package" option on the E-Series to include the following.
- heavy duty front and rear stabilizer bars
- Bilstein or Koni-RV shocks
- rear trac bar
- heavy duty front steering stabilizer
- front wheel alignment

Our 2007 2350 on a 2007 E350 chassis drove like a drunken sailor until after these upgrades.  Now it resembles the handling of an SUV.  With 1000 pounds of chassis weight margin when loaded on trips, the quality of the ride is quite comfortable.

I believe that Phoenix does what it does because everyone thinks what they need and/or want is different, so they don't do anything and let the customer do it themselves. This is the reason they do not install towel bars and toilet paper holder but wait for the customer to bring their own and tell them where they want them installed.

Ron put everything on his in one big step and is happy with what he did. I don't agree with his way of doing it. I upgraded my 2350 from the E350 to the E450 when it was built.  I then put Bilstein shocks on, had an alignment done and drove it for awhile. I put the Roadmaster rear anti-sway bar on and could hardly tell any difference. If I was to keep this unit, I would not add anything more. I my new PC 2552, I plan on driving it the 600 plus miles home from the factory to check out the ride and handling. Then I will probly order Bilstein shocks and an alignment. Then I will see what happens before adding anything else.

One of the fun things about owning a PC is making mods  during the build and afterwards on our own. Then coming on here and talking about them.

Back in 1989 I owned a Pace Arrow class A that had the Mor-ride on it. The ride was pretty good. Yesterday I called the Mor-ride folks and talked to them. Since they are located in Elkhart and I am picking up my new PC in Elkhart I was thinking I could have them install it right after I got it. The price of $795 plus tax plus 6-7 hours labor at $79 an hour seems a little high not knowing how this new unit is going to ride. I will put this off for now.
1015  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 02, 2011, 08:08:49 am
Ideally, the dinette bed would be big enough for me (6'2", 230 lbs), but unless I can get the floor plans and measurements I guess I'll just have to try and find one locally and check it out.

At least I know it's plenty big enough for DW, if we decide that climbing over each other in the corner bed isn't working.

BTW, what type of mattress does Phoenix use for the corner bed -- inner spring or foam?  How would you rate its comfort?

SA, you have not filled out your profile yet so we don't know what is local for you. Therefore can not help you with that.

Phoenix uses an inner spring mattress on the beds. The new 2012 models have a form sofa/bed.

When I said that the dinettes were a pita, I was referring to having to sleep on cushion designed for sitting on and all the cracks between the cushions. If I had to sleep on a dinette I would have to get a form pad to lay over the cushions.
1016  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How does your PC ride? on: October 31, 2011, 09:21:09 am
Hi George,

    Have you had the PC weighted yet? If you do and you check the Michelin tire charts, you will probably find that the tires air pressure on the Ford door is way to high. By the charts I needed to drop my 2350 on the E450 down to 65 PSI. I dropped both the front and rear to 70 PSI. The ride is much better to me.

As far as the main post, the ride is a matter of personal taste. Each of us has made different changes and some we like and some we don't. The only thing that rides and handles really good cost several hundred thousand dollars and says "Prevost" on the grill.
1017  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: October 31, 2011, 07:30:15 am
Over the years Phoenix has change the sofa/bed. Several years ago they used a jack knife sofa, then they went to the Air bed/sofa in 2010 and for 2012 they have a electric memory foam sofa. I have not tried to sleep on the new sofa yet. Each changes seems to have been for the better but none are as good as a real mattress. The air bed was pretty bad until we change the mattress to a better Areo bed mattress.

The dinette in the slide out is just too small for anyone except a small child. In the non-slide model the dinette is larger but still pretty small. The mattress part is the cushions that form the seats and the back. Ron has the non-slide dinette and seems to like it. I bet he will jump in here soon.

I used to sell RVs for about four years after I retired and before the market died. I never found a sofa that I felt was that comfortable and the dinettes where a PITA, IMO.
1018  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: October 30, 2011, 07:53:33 am
I am trading in a 2010 PC 2350 in the very near future. My PC has the sofa/air bed not the dinnette. Ron sent me a private message that I responed to. As I told him, I am locked into this deal as it is a very good deal. ThumbsUp

I wish you luck in finding a PC you like.
1019  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: List Your PC Projects Planned Over This Winter 2011 to 2012 on: October 29, 2011, 10:45:38 am
Roni, I would recommend that you paint the plywood board or polyurethane it. This should stop the splitters. Then add edge guards on the edge. Go to "tips & tricks" section on this forum and look at Sue's "High traffic storage guards". The guards come is several sizes in our local home depot and ace hardware stores.
1020  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: List Your PC Projects Planned Over This Winter 2011 to 2012 on: October 29, 2011, 09:07:28 am
Mine is to trade in the 2350 and pickup the new 2552. I will put up soap dishes, shower hooks, shower tray and a paper towel holder in the kitchen. The guys at the factory are making most of my wants for me. Doug who will be installing the towel bars and the Maxxair II vent covers for me. Bobby has added his touch with shelves over the headboard in the bedroom and a new compartment between the generator and the LPG tank.  I plan to keep my 3" sewer hose and connectors in it. Arn't the guys at the factory great!  ThumbsUp

Then I plan on having Bilstein HD shocks installed all around. After testing them, I will have to see just what other suspension changes I might want to make.

A new toy to play with.

P.S. The new PC is in the paint shop now, so in about two to three weeks we should get it, hopefully. Grin
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