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1021  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 07, 2010, 10:06:36 am
mciai2000 Acturally it was LG that brough up the sani-con, not me. He saved my bacon as well as yours.

On my 2350 with slide, the water pump is under the rear bed, about half way between the top and bottom. The factory put the bypass in before putting the bed plywood down and putting the mattress in place. They then cut a 4" wide by 6" high hole in the wall into the outside cabinet. Looking from the outside, the hole is in the right hand rear corner. I put the bottle jack in front of it and you can not even see the hole. I have to reach into this hole to get the hose and to turn the valve. I put a longer hose on the bypass to give me a little more reach to work with when putting the hose into the anti-freeze bottle.
1022  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 05, 2010, 09:42:55 am

    If you look at the sani-con pump from under the motorhome, you will see a 2" section of clear hose or the black hose connecting to the output side of the pump. I removed the hose clamp and the hose, took it to my local Ace hardware store (they have all the little odd things the big stores don't stock) and bought a 2 foot section of clear hose of the same size. I also bought a "T" and a water valve and two stainless steel hose clamps. I put the water value into the top of the upside down "T". After I pulled the old back hose through the wall I connected it to one end of the "T", and put the new clear hose on the other end of the "T". Put your two new clamps on the hoses connected to the "T". I pushed the clear hose through the wall leaving about four or five inches showing. Going back under the motorhome I connected the new clear hose where the old hose connected to the pump, again using a hose clamp. I had to cut off some of the clear hose to make it fit, but I would rather have too much hose than not enough. I tightened all the hose clamps. All done, that simple.

    Now when I use the hose, I remove the screw-on cap from the end of the hose and put it on the new water valve for storage. When back flushing, I can see what is flowing through the clear hose and I flush until it runs clear. After dumping, I remove the cap, open the valve, lift and shake the hose to get all the water out of the hose. THEN I CLOSE THE VALVE. This last step is very important, otherwise next time you turn on the pump, well you guess where the water is going.  rolling on the floor

    I hope this helps you.
1023  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water heater bypass on: October 05, 2010, 09:12:06 am
I found it. It is under and behind the lower left hand drawer. I pulled the drawer open and could see the crossover hose with three valves. When it comes time to use it, I will have to get the drawer out, and switch the valves. I know that I have to push down on one sides lever while lifting the other sides to remove the drawer. It did not want to come out this time, but next time it will, one way or another.
1024  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 05, 2010, 09:04:45 am
Ron, just remeber to close the spicket after each and every use, otherwise the next time the waste water will come out the top. This happened to me one time.  rolling on the floor
1025  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 05, 2010, 07:14:11 am
L.G. Thanks about the sani-con warning, I would not have thought of the pump needing anti-freeze. I did one of my many mods to the hose. I put a longer clear hose that runs up into the compartment, then I added a "T" with a spicket that I can open to allow air into the hose. It helps to drain the hose after using the system. The clear part allows me to see when the back flushing has flushed everything out. So I guess this mod will save me from having to put anti-freeze in the hose. Again thanks for the tip.  ThankYou
1026  Main Forum / General Discussion / Water heater bypass on: October 04, 2010, 07:00:55 pm
Does anyone know if the 2010 2350s have a water heater bypass? The water heater is under the kitchen sink behind a wooden wall. Could it be hiding in there?  Help
1027  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Things We Have Added to Our 2350 - Sun Screen on: October 04, 2010, 08:01:26 am
When we went to the Hershey show, Stuart from the factory had some windshield/window shades that let the light in, but people could not see in. You can even get a picture printed on them. Since I already have the kind that is solid with the roll down sections that let the light in, I had to pass on his. You might want to call Stuart about the cost of his shades. You can see mine here .
1028  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 04, 2010, 07:53:50 am
I do both, blow out the lines and then add anti-freeze. Sometimes I am one very big chicken. First I drain all the lines, fresh water tank and the water heater. Then I put my air plug into the water line input and blow out the lines, by opening and closing one faucet (cold, then hot) at a time. I then turn the hot water bypass and using the anti-freeze pickup tube, I add the anti-freeze. This will be my first year with this motorhome but this is what I have done for the last five motorhomes. I had the anti-freeze pickup tube put in when it was built. Come to think about it, I don't know if there is a water heater bypass and where it would be. Can anyone help me out here? I would hate to have to buy six gallons of anti-freeze just to fill the water heater and one for all the lines.
1029  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 04, 2010, 07:32:52 am
Hi Roni, nice to meet you. If you want and I wish everyone would, you can go into your profile and add your name and which motorhome you have. It will then be posted with all your messages. See the the bottom of this message for an example. HiThere
1030  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 04, 2010, 07:28:04 am
Ron, I believe you are right about the 2010 slide with the reefer in it being the change point. There is nothing under the reefer because there is a 4" hump for the slide.
1031  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 03, 2010, 04:58:46 pm
Echo11, do you have a name? I feel silly calling you Echo11 all the time.

    My short arm mirrors in no way impeade my viewing the lanes next to me or changing lanes. The only issue with them is the cars that are hiding behind me just outside the camera view. If either of us shifts left or right in the lane, or we go around a curve, I can see them. If the sun is to the side of us, I can see their shadow. I have not had any problems keeping track of them. I know Ron and some others pefer the wider arms for seeing behind themseleves, and I respect them for that, but I don't feel their need. You have to know that Ron is from Chicago and we all know how they drive up there. Just kidding you Ron.  I took a picture of my PC headon before the rains started, but it does not really show you how good or bad the mirrors work.  I will try and post it here, but I have never done that before now. You can see my rig at Yellowstone in the "Adventure anywhere" page off the home page. It is the brown one. I will try the Insert image button above now, here goes nothing. Well that didn't work. Sorry.

    There are several changes to the 2011 besides the windows, They changed the TV speakers, the monitor panel is now behind the driver's seat and the Microwave has changed. There maybe other changes that I have missed or that are done during the model year. Phoenix does not seem to make any major changes from year to year unless the bring out a new model like the 2910. They just seem to keep improving the current model with upgrades. That is one of the reason I like this brand. Also it will help if and when I go to sell it, the buyer knowing that they are getting close to the same thing that is currently offered.

    I had three different people tell me how much they like our motorhome this weekend. One was when I was in traffic in downtown Gettysburg. He was walking down the street and stop to tell me how much he liked it. He then asked if I would sell it to him. Of course I told him "no way", he would have to get his own. The size, shape and the full body paint really turns people on the this motorhome. This was another time I was glad I had the short arm mirrors as the road was very narrow with lots of traffic. We like to sit inside and watch the people walking by in the campgrounds and how they point at the rig.

    Got to go for now.

1032  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 03, 2010, 01:16:33 pm
   On the 2350 with the slide like I have, they put the fresh water tank, water pump, sub woofer and the furance under the rear bed. Without the side they put the furance under the reefer or the tall closet, I don't remeber which I saw. I don't know where the sub woofer went without the slide. Sorry if I caused any confusion.
1033  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Deep descents, rpms, redline, etc. on: October 02, 2010, 08:53:48 am
I will play both games. I figure with todays engines and transmissions, they will not let me do them any real harm, but the brakes can very quickly over heat. So when starting down a steep hill, I will slow down and select a lower gear and sometimes I will turn on the tow/haul mode. If my speed continues to build and jabbing the brakes does not keep me from speeding, the tow/haul will down shift for me and slow my speed. If the engine starts to exceed the red line, the tow/haul will up shift and it is up to me to slow her down using the brakes. Just my way of driving.
1034  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 02, 2010, 08:45:51 am
Hi Ron,

    A couple of issues about your write up above. The standard electric awning already goes all the way to the rear, covering the bedroom window. On the 2011 motorhomes, the windows are crank out at the bottom not sliders like we have. Therefore the dinning room window awning is not needed for rain, just for the sun. My sub woofer is behind the outside cabinet wall, under the bed, next to the funerance. I had them put a on/off switch for when I want to nap and she wants to watch TV. I have never used it because she uses the TV speakers, not the suround sound. Ron, I am just trying to bring you up to date with some of the new changes we noticed at the Hershey show.

Hi Echo11,

    When I ordered my 2350, the bathroom had one of the silly little fans, so I paid to have them install a second Fantastic fan there. By your comment it looks like they may now come standard. I would double check that.

    As for the mirror arm issue, I guess I better explain the difference I see because I was the one who started this issue. When I got my 2350, it had the long arms on the mirrors. I was unconfortable with them sticking out and taking up the whole lane on the black roads. We like getting off the highways when we can and taking black roads. I was down sizing from a 35' class A Winniebago. So I wanted everything small and compact. I called the mirror manufacture (Ramco) and found out that they have two arms, a 9" and a 4 3/4". I went through Carol at Phoenix and purchased the mirrors with the short arms. I then did a write up here about reducing my overall width. Let me tell you, it did not make some of the folks at Phoenix very happy as a lot of people started asking about the short arms. My understanding is that the short arms are to be the standard in the future.
As for which works the best. The long arms do show behind you better than the short arms and you can see the cars behind you without the camera on. I always run with the camera on, so I can see what is directly behind me from 0 to 25 feet out. Between 25 to 50 feet, it is hard to see a car, so I look for the shadow or wait until a bend in the road to see them.  Beyond 50 feet I can normally see the car. Besides the car is behind me and what he does is his responablility. There have been several times that I was glad I had the short arms with on coming trucks and their large mirrors coming very close to my mirrors. Also when driving in the mountains on the National Park's narrow roads I ride the center line and I don't want my mirrors sticking into the on coming lane. So if you want to see the cars directly behind you without using the camera or looking for shadows, then go with the long arms. If you want the narrow width and you can drive with cars that like to ride from 25 to 50 feet behind you being some what hidden, go with the short arms.

1035  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 01, 2010, 06:41:09 pm
echo11, you said "I am going to get a cover on one of the fantastic fans ". by saying one of, are you saying you are getting a second fantastic fan in the bath? I did that and I am very happy I did.

    I put a Maxxair ll over the fan in the hallway but did not over the bath fan. I did not like the way the cover looked that close to the edge of the MH. Make sure you use the Maxxair ll and not the old Maxxair. The old Maxxair only allows for you to run the fan on slow, else you put to much of a strain on the fan's motor. The guy at Fantastic fan told me that years ago. That is why they came out with the Maxxair ll, for the high powered fans.

    As for the seat, I agree with the above post that the swivel is more important than the power controls. The best is if you can get both, but I was told it was one or the other when I ordered mine.

    BTW, I ordered the slide because we have two large dogs and they need the floor space at night. We got the sofa with the air bed, which only comes with the slide. This gives us a second bed when needed. The weight of the slide was not of concern as I ordered my 2350 with the E450 upgrade, giving me an extra 2K pounds of payload.

    Are you getting the short or long arms on the mirrors?

    If you can, you should go by the factory and see how well these things are made. It is very interesting. I know you will enjoy your new toy when you get it.
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