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676  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: ENGINE COWLING on: October 09, 2013, 05:06:38 pm
Was the test done with the windows open or closed?
677  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Hanging with the Big Dogs on: October 07, 2013, 12:39:37 pm
We stay in campgrounds most of the time. I would rather wake up to the sounds of birds chipping and the smell of bacon cooking, not semis runnig and the smell of diesel fuel. Safety is not a big issue with us. Our 100 lb German Shepherd takes good care of that.  ThumbsUp
678  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Steering damper and suspension improvements - advice please on: October 04, 2013, 05:45:21 pm
 Steering dampener from Summit Racing - Bilstein #BSN-24-174534 cost $95.97. I installed it in about 30 minits or less. Only had two nuts to remove, took old one off, slide new one on, replace the nuts. Real easy to do. Did not have to raise the PC.

Shocks  from eshocks.com $328.40 for all four and local truck tire shop installed the for $193.36 for a total of $521.76. Bilstein #s front 33-187570 rear 33-176857. Let someone else install the shocks as it was a real pita for him.

679  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Hanging with the Big Dogs on: October 04, 2013, 04:27:13 pm
I bet at least two or three PC could park length wise in that spot. I would be afraid that I would not fine where my PC was hiding when I came back. LOL rolling on the floor
680  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 04, 2013, 04:24:40 pm
"I  had initially considered ordering the 2350 on an E450 chassis but was cautioned by forum member Ron Dittmer on the rough ride I would be in for with the small coach on that chassis. I had found the heavier load capacity and braking capabilities of the E450 appealing since we have a lot of steep roads and highways in Colorado and we are thinking of getting an Jeep Wrangler Unlimited as a toad ( about 4600 lbs curb weight). I like the 24' length and am not interested in the larger models. I would be interested in any input from the 2350/E450 owners on the forum.

We would like a slide out with the sofa. Access to the rear while in transit is important to us however and I would appreciate hearing from anyone regarding ease of passage to the back while the slide-out is retracted."


 First off let me say hi and welcome. I think I am the only person on here that has actually owned a Phoenix 2350 built on the E450, but I could be wrong. In 2010 I ordered a 2350 with a sofa slide out. When it came time to build it, the factory discovered that the E350 chassis that had gotten from Ford only had the small 35 gallon gas tank, not the standard 55 gallon tank. I did not want the smaller tank, so I asked about getting it built on the larger stronger E450. They said yes for a small upgrade fee of $2000. So I agreed with it and got what I wanted all along. I replaced the shocks with Bilstein shocks and thought the ride and handling improved. I replaced the rear anti-sway bar with the Roadmaster heavy duty bar. I could not say that it was worth the money and there was very little improvement. I never felt that the ride was rough or hard. We took this rig from Maryland to Yellowstone and down to Rockey Mtn. NP east entrance and up the mountains. Never had any problems with it, except for the stone chip in the windshield in Wy. on a dirt road. My tax dollars at work replacing the road. I think everyone should upgrade to the E450 over the E350, but that is just me and I know not everyone agrees with me.

We upgraded to the larger 2012 2552 because of the better sleeping arrangement, at least for us. I have also replaced the shocks with the newer Bilstein HD silver shocks and like the ride even better that the stock factory stocks or the older yellow Bilstein shocks. I also replaced the steering dampener with a Bilstein dampener for about $300. Now I sit back and just cruise the highways. On my last trip two deer jumped out in front of me wile I was doing 65 mph and I really do like the extra handling theses improvement have made.

As for getting to the back with the slide out in for traveling, no problem. I am 6' 240 lbs and can move around with the slide in or out.

Feel free to ask any and all your question on here as we all love talking about our PCs.
681  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inverter on: October 03, 2013, 07:33:23 am
Do a search for inverters and converters under Ron.dittmer postings. He has explained this in detail and how to get around the issues. The 2007 PCs have different equipment than the current models. He will most likely jump in here later today, so keep checking here.
682  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Steering damper and suspension improvements - advice please on: October 02, 2013, 05:00:54 pm
Barry.
 Oh I must omit that my wife is always asking me "why can't you just leave it alone". She just doesn't understand my need to play with my toys.  LOL
683  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Steering damper and suspension improvements - advice please on: October 02, 2013, 03:43:30 pm
Barry, I used the HD shocks. They are the same ones as used on ambulances, per the lady on the phone at Bilstein.
There was still some play back and forth that I wanted to tighten up, so I went with the larger steering dampener over the one that Ford uses. I like my motorhomes to handle like a sports car or as close as I can get it too. It will never happen totally.

Ron you are the expert on the older, pre 2008 chassis, so I don't know why anyone would disagree with what you have to say. I might disagree with some other things, like no slide, but I also don't use the disagree button for other peoples opinion. 
684  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Steering damper and suspension improvements - advice please on: October 02, 2013, 11:52:41 am
I agree with Barry in that you should do one thing at a time and see what works for you. Then do the next thing. I have used Bilstein shocks on three different motorhomes, one class A and two PCs. I can tell you they did the most to help handling of any of the changes I have made in the past. I fact, I did not follow the rule on one thing at a time on my current PC in that I put both front and rear shocks on at the same time. Then I added the Bilstein steering dampener. I can tell you that the new stainless shocks are far better riding than the old yellow ones. I bought the shocks at eshock.com and had a local truck tire shop install them. The steering dampener I installed myself in less the a half hour.
685  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Transfer Switch Manual on: September 30, 2013, 05:53:15 pm
Bob what problems did you have with yours? Now you got me worried, at least a little worried.
686  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: September 30, 2013, 05:50:21 pm
I have ordered thses floor mats from WeatherTech. They should be here tomorrow. I will let you all know how well they fit. They look good in the pictures and I have used their cargo mat for the back of my Jeep Grand Cherokee.

http://www.weathertech.com/ford/2012/econoline-e-series/floor-mats-all-weather/
687  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Transfer Switch Manual on: September 30, 2013, 12:12:26 pm
Why all the concern about the transfer switch? I have never heard of anyone having a problem with one and if I ever do, it is going into a shop to be fixed. In the 30 years of motorhoming i have never had a problem with one, yet. So I ask, why the concern?
688  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Oak Mountain State Park near Birmingham AL on: September 30, 2013, 07:56:01 am
Great shot.  ThumbsUp
It needs to be in the Adventures Anywhere section so it can show up on the home page.
689  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 27, 2013, 09:38:14 am
Ron I am glad you fixed the problem without having to terrorize the cab. Kermit is so helpfull. How many other companies do you know where the owner is so helpfull? Not many I bet.
690  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: September 26, 2013, 02:47:55 pm
"Because I love y'all the mostest"  under general discussion.
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