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991  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sani-Con electrical schematic on: April 25, 2011, 07:10:22 am
Trudy, before you do anything else, make sure the battery disconnect switch by the door is turned on and not in the storage position. The sani-con is a 12 volt system and when the switch is off neither the pump or the valves will work.  I found this out the hard way, but that is another story with an unhappy ending, like gray water all over me. pulling hair out pulling hair out pulling hair out
992  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: April 23, 2011, 11:17:35 am
I just put a post under "back flushing tanks" topic with a picture that might help clear this up. this is what my 2010 PC 2350 looks like from the back under the coach.
993  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Back flushing tanks on: April 23, 2011, 11:14:46 am
OK, it stopped raining for a few minutes, so I went out to the back of the PC a took a picture. Click on it to enlarge it. I hope this clears up what I am talking about. To the left side you will see the sani-con pump with the wide metal strap holding it onto the body (this is an improvement over earlier years thin strap). You will also see a 90 degree elbow coming out of the pump going up into the outside compartment. Coming over the top of the pump and going into the 90 degree elbow you will see a little 1/4 hose that is going into the elbow also, this is coming from the main dump pipe and bypassing the sani-con pump. It is meant to allow gray water to bypass the pump and drain out to the sewer. The only problem with it is that the water has to push it way up the two hoses and out to the sewer. Since the top of the main hose is about 3/4 or more as high up the side as the gray tank, and we all know that water seeks it own level, the water will only flow when the tank is 3/4 full or higher.

On the right of the photo you will see a 3" pipe with a cap that has Valterra written on it. This is the pipe that you would use it if you did not want to use or could not use the sani-con system. You would hook up a 3" hose and run it to the sewer before opening the dump valves. When you open the dump valve water flows into this pipe and either out the end or is pumped out by the sani-con pump.

I hope this clears up the sewer system questions. Sorry if I confused anyone with my post.
994  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I have a request on: April 23, 2011, 10:58:17 am
Aimee, I got it!  Only good things about PC and the sales staff are allowed on this site. Thanks   

No Rannan5050 you don't "GOT IT". Aimee is trying to keep this site a friendly and happy place, unlike some forum that are just a bunch of complainers crying about anything and everything. If you have something to say about the people on here or Phoennix you can say it, just keep it in nice manner. We all have things we disagree with from time to time and that has always been allowed on here. Just don't come here looking the bash the company or the people. I see that you have posted 4 times and already you have a minus 5 rating. Please keep it friendly on here.
995  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: smoke detector on: April 23, 2011, 07:27:43 am
My original one and the one I used to replace the original one are both battery operated. The original one was mounted on the ceiling near the kitchen and every time my wife cooked on the stove it would beep. So I went the wally world and bought a kitchen model that allows us to silence it for ten minutes by pushing a button. It does not seem to go off as often as the old one, maybe because it is a kitchen model. I took down the original one and placed the new one in the same spot.
996  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Back flushing tanks on: April 22, 2011, 03:49:50 pm
After dumping, when you open the black valve and put on the sprayer, do you immediately put on the pump?  Or do you wait a short while for the bottom of the tank to fill and then put on the pump for a few minutes?  After dumping, how much water should be added to the bottom of the black tank- a few flushes?

After starting to spray I wait 2 or 3 minutes before starting the pump. The spray cleans the walls and the top, flushing cleans the bottom.If the pump runs out of water, I stop it for a couple of minutes more. I continue doing this until the water coming out is clean. After dumping the black tank, you should fill the toilet bowl and flush it so you have some water in the bottom.

Never put the hose into the sewer hole and leave the black tank open. What happens is what Ron had happen to him, big stink every time you flush the toilet.  Cry The gas in the sewer will come right into your bathroom. The other problem is without water in the tank, you will build up a cone of waste that will get very hard and eventually clog your toilet. Not a job you want to have to clean out.  Bolt You can leave the gray water open because the shower and the sinks have a "P" trap under them that is full of water, keeping the gas out of your bathroom. I always run water into the sinks before each trip to fill the traps, after that normal use will keep them full.

The gray water bypass I was talking about is on the sani-con pump, not the 3 inch pipe facing out the back of the motorhome. That is the other way to dump, if you have a problem with the sani-con system. RVs with out the sani-con have this type of hookup to dump with. Grin
997  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I have a request on: April 22, 2011, 11:33:57 am
Aimee, I for one appreciate all the hard work you do to keep this forum up and running as smoothly as it does.  ThankYou

I aim to follow your advice to the letter. I hope everyone else will also.  ThumbsUp
998  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Back flushing tanks on: April 22, 2011, 10:14:39 am
I am not taking sides but both of you are wrong and both of you are right. You can put the hose into the hole and open the gray valve and leave it open. Once the gray water gets to the highest point of the hose the gray water will start draining though the pump bypass. The pump bypass is the small hose on the top of the pump, under the motorhome. This hose is very small and will drain very very slowly. So if you are taking a shower and the gray tank fills up, you will be trying to put water into the tank faster than it will drain out and you will be standing in water. What I am trying to say is that your husband is doing what I consider the right thing, but you are right in that there is a bypass. What a wonderfull world we live in.  Cheers 
999  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Back flushing tanks on: April 22, 2011, 07:49:27 am
    I open the valve for the black tank and let it dump, then I flush it by opening the black sprayer valve and let it run until it comes out clear, about 3 or 4 minutes. Then I close the back tank valve and do the same for the gray tank.

    I have modified my sani-con system to do two things for me. In the pictures you will see a clear hose so I can tell when the water is coming out clear. You will also see a red handled water valve that I can open after I dump and turn off the pump that will break the vacuum allowing the water to flow out of the hose.

1000  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: We have it! on: April 21, 2011, 08:22:20 am
 Celebrate Celebrate Celebrate chandelier
Congratulations Roni.

Now fill out your profile and don't forget to keep on this forum. We all want to hear of your adventures and modifications to make your PC "YOUR PC".
1001  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dinette Table top Replacement on: April 19, 2011, 08:00:11 am
I think I confused things. Richard is the one with the broken table.

To add one's location, just go into your profile (click on Profile above, on the line with home, help etc.) and edit it. The location is near the bottom.
1002  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dinette Table top Replacement on: April 18, 2011, 12:11:01 pm
Richard (and Trudy also) you are asking us where to find someplace but you are not telling us where you are. In your profile you can fill out the info about your PC and a general location of where you live. Full timing is a location.  ThumbsUp

Like Ron said you can fix the table top yourself, call the factory or look in the yellow pages for a kitchen cabinet builder. Wink
1003  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: smoke detector on: April 18, 2011, 10:57:09 am
any place that sells smoke detectors should sell one for the kitchen. We bought ours at Walmart for about $15. Has one test button and one silence button. It reactivates itself after about 10 minutes.
1004  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: pillow top mattress on: April 18, 2011, 07:42:52 am
David, On the first night of our last trip the air mattress developed a hole and would not hold air. Since it was under warranty we called Carol at the factory and she sent a new one to our home. In the meantime we stopped at Bed, Bath and Beyond and bought their middle of the line, $200 air mattress. It does have a pillow top and is a little nicer to sleep on. The issues we had was that 1) the motor is just off center, would not fit in the hole at the top of the bad properly (I had to put the canvas away from the frame at the top right side), 2) the exhaust hole was also at the top of the bed, not the foot, making it  a lot harder to dump the air quickly and 3) the mattress is a little thick when folding it to put it away. My wife had to pump the air out using the motor. Remember that your sofa is a full size bed and not a queen.

BB&B had tree different mattress, the lowest was about $130 and was seven inches thick when inflated. The middle one was nine inches at $200 and the highest was 11 inches thick and cost about $40 more. Jo Anne thought that the high end one would be to thick when it came time to fold it up and put the sofa back in place. The middle one turned out to be a little thick but is doable. If you can figure out how to get the motor and exhaust hole at the foot of the bed, things might work better, without being a issue when folding it. If you do, please let us know how you did it. When we got back home, we put the mattress that Carol sent us back in the PC and put the new one in the house for now.
1005  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Oxidation on: April 15, 2011, 01:04:59 pm
Why don't you email your pictures to Kermit and see what he has to say? Can't hurt.
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