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991  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Towing Dinghys on: February 17, 2012, 07:39:26 am
Ron and Dave,

You could both be right and both be wrong according to the January 2012 Family Motor Coaching towing guide. On page 65 it sates that the Jeep Liberty approximate curb weight is 4.290 lbs. The Wrangler is 3,760 lbs and the Wrangler Unlimited is 4,075 lbs. Ron could be right if his Liberty is a two drive model and not the heavier 4x4.

Motorhome magazine just came out with their towing guide but I gave my copy to a friend.

To find out more about towing, and what makes a good toad,  you might want to go to the web site for FMCA or Good Sam Club or Motorhome magazine.
992  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Batteries on: February 17, 2012, 07:27:13 am
When you are plugged into 120v (shore power) at a campsite the converter in your PC will charge the house batteries. In the old days, just a few years ago, the converters had one stage of charging, full power. Todays converters have two or three stages and can they can read the status of the batteries. When you plug into the shore power, the converter comes on full power, then as the batteries get to full charge the converter goes into a maintenance level (about 2 amps) to maintain the batteries. The older converters would keeping trying to charge the batteries even after they became fully charged. This would cause the water in the batteries to boil out of the batteries, thus killing the batteries. This was called "cooking" the batterers.

I don't know exactly when PC started using the multi-stage converters, but I think it was around 2008 or 2009.  Since  you have a 2011 PC, you can and should leave the batteries on when plugged into shore power. The only time you should disconnect the batteries is when you need to store the PC for two or more weeks without hooking up.

I hope this answers your question.
993  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Towing Dinghys on: February 16, 2012, 06:55:40 pm
X2 what they said plus remember you might to think about how many people you want to seat. If we meet up in a campground someday, I would let you take the DW and me out to dinner. So seating for four would be nice, I don't like being strapped to the roof.
994  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 16, 2012, 11:19:12 am
"Their price of $30,000 is negotiable.  If money was tight, having to consider a used one, I would not pay his asking price.  But I would discuss it.  One thing for sure is that I would require they do something to level it out, helper springs or air bags, or something.  And have them include in the deal some type of awning, and replace the TV and associated cabinetry with the 26" widescreen and the current cabinets around it.  They have been known to do requests on used models.

If I was Stuart I would be sending you hate mail for posting things like this on their web site. What goes on between Phoenix and a buyer should be between them and not you. If the buyer wants to have things changed, it should be up to them, not you. What a buyer pays for a unit is between them and Phoenix, not you.  I know you are only trying to help, but it is not your business so you should stay out of it.  It is OK to point out the availability of a unit but you should stop there. This is just my thinking and has nothing to do with Phoenix USA.
995  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Happy Valentines Day! on: February 13, 2012, 06:59:33 pm
I don't know about that Bob. Next thing you know she will want to drive on her birthday also and then what! LOL
I am giving her the standard heart shaped box of chocolates, a card, and saying something mushy. Hug2
996  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 09, 2012, 03:34:47 pm

How would the refer fit into the slide out? It is on the other side of the coach. You would have to remove the wardrobe and the bathroom sink to get it to fit. Sure one could put the wardrobe on the passengers side, but the sink is a different problem.

Also when you upgrade the engine (V8 to V10) and/or the truck (E350 to E450) you are changing more than just the engine, which one must also consider.
997  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Running frig before trip on: February 08, 2012, 01:31:14 pm
Hi Bob,

Any time you or anyone on this forum wants to correct me, please feel free to set me right. I have never complained about being corrected or the chance to learn something new. After all, I have been married to the DW for 43 years now, so I am used to being corrected. rolling on the floor

998  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Running frig before trip on: February 07, 2012, 04:01:05 pm
Bob is correct again and I stand corrected. I called Kermit and he confirmed that when connected to shore power (120v) and the switch by the door is in the use position the batteries are connected, but when you put the switch into the store position the batteries are no longer connected or charging, yet the light stays on. He also said that it is OK to leave the couch plugged in full time because the converter will go into a maintenance mode once the batteries are fully charged. He said that the refrigerator needs 12 v to start the flame.

Bob, Thank you for correcting me, I learned something new today. Cheers
999  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Running frig before trip on: February 06, 2012, 08:20:43 pm
Bob is right about the need for 12v when on LPG. The spark to light the flame is from the 12v. When you plug in, the batteries automatically come one. Try turning them off at the switch by the door when plug in. You can't get the light to go out.
1000  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Running frig before trip on: February 05, 2012, 04:16:24 pm
Here on the east coast, we also get stink bugs that like to fill the propane tubes on the water heaters and the refrigerators. Good tip to run both before any trips. Thanks
1001  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Advice regarding purchasing a PC. We are new to the PC and B+ World on: February 04, 2012, 10:09:49 am
Please be carefull about using " septic tank cleaner ". Septic tanks do not have rubber seals like the holding tanks have around the gate valves. Some of the " septic tank cleaner " can kill the rubber. Read the warning labels before using them. You might try some of the black tank probe cleaners sold at your local RV store or Camping World. I have heard of some people having some success putting a bag of ice cubes in the tank with some water and driving around. The ice is to bang on the probe and knock off the paper and other stuff on the probe.

On my first PC, I replaced the probes with these "". They seemed to work better for the year I had them in the PC.  I was surprised to see that the probe part on the inside, was just a small button while these are about two inches long. I have not had the new PC long enough to find out if I will order a set of these.
1002  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Proof of Purchase on: January 26, 2012, 03:26:27 pm
If you keep a copy of your sales receipt showing the VIN and date of pickup in the rig, you will have proof of purchase for everything installed as original equipment.
1003  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: bedding for our new 2552?? on: January 19, 2012, 11:00:31 am
Ron, our 2003 Winnebago had a 60x80 queen bed, which is the standard size for a queen. We used the same sheets as our house.
1004  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: bedding for our new 2552?? on: January 18, 2012, 07:37:49 pm
I posted this when we ordered our 2552. "Now we are trying to figure out the sheets from two different company's. Amanda sent us to and this forum sent us to We are looking for custom sheets to fit theses new beds." We ended up ordering from We ordered two colors so we can tell which fits the short bed and which fits the longer bed. We also got two pillow cases for each bed. The sheets are on the expensive side but they fit and are a long term investment.
1005  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 16, 2012, 05:02:21 pm
Welcome Dale and Claire,

We did the very same thing with the PC's that you are doing. Wait until you get the new 2552 and take it for a drive. The ride and handling is a whole lot better than the 2350. Also we can not find enought things to fill all the cabinets. Enjoy the new PC.
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