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151  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Carbon Monoxide Detector on: December 30, 2010, 02:17:15 pm
I went out to check my 2011 PC 2552 and found the fire and smoke detector mounted on the ceiling where it should be.  I also found my carbon monoxide and propane detector mounted in the bed area about a foot off the floor where it should be.  The carbon monoxide and propane detector are integrated in one unit and mine is white in color.
     Bob
152  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Heated holding tank question on: December 22, 2010, 01:55:45 pm
After dumping your holding tanks and your gate valves are closed, I add some anti-freeze to the grey water side through one of the sinks.  Then I open the grey tank dump valve and allow anti-freeze to flow to the Sani-con to prevent it freezing.  Then I close the valve and add anti-freeze to both the grey and black tanks through the toilet and a sink.  This, I find, allows me to use my Coach in the winter and still be able to dump. Our dump station here in N. Idaho is open all year.   Anyways, it works for me.
      Bob
153  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 on: December 19, 2010, 02:16:59 am
Billy,
    We have the first 2552 which was a 2551 that we needed an extra length to add a third automotive seat behind the passenger seat.  PC came up with the solution to add one foot to the length of the coach.  On our 2552 we have a slide with a sofa and between the sofa and refrig. is a slideout pantry, all part of the overall slideout.  Can not answer the confusion on the dinette and sofa situation.  A call to Stuart would easily clarify the situation.  On the other items, I would recommend the insul. glass, the mirror compass and outside temp., and the backup monitor.  As far as the Satellite Dish, I believe that would be a personal preference.  For us, most parks have cable TV and if not then it gives us more time to read or go for a walk.  Just my thoughts. 
      Bob
154  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 14, 2010, 04:34:15 pm
Checked with PC about the frame lengthening.  They do have to modify the frames, but it is done by an outside Ford authorized company.  To modify the frame in lengthening the wheelbase you would need to have a fixture to insure frame alignment.  Also, you would have to modify all your wiring harnesses, brake lines and drive line.
    Bob
155  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 12, 2010, 12:13:05 am
The wheelbase is a fixed Ford chassis. PC could not lengthen the wheelbase, but they can use a different Ford chassis with a longer wheelbase.  As you can see on the PC spec. sheet there are several available wheelbase lengths.  They can extend the chassis length by welding extensions on the frame.  I believe they have any extensions to the frame done by an outside source.  Did not see any equipment at the factory to do this type of work.  So, the wheelbase on the 2552 is probably the same as the 2551, but I would have to measure it be positive.
Bob
156  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552/programed remotes on: December 11, 2010, 11:56:26 pm
Bob A.,
     We paid PC to have a Ford rep. come to the PC Factory and program two remotes for our unit.  We also had it done on the 2350 we had.  It cost $250 including the remotes and is well worth it.
      Bob
157  Main Forum / General Discussion / 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 10, 2010, 01:10:24 am
My trip East to pick up the new 2552S was through a weather window of opportunity.  Basically North Idaho to the Factory and return.  Had some surface ice in Montana on the way over and basically clear roads on the return. On my 2350 trade I had added heavy duty anti-sway bars and a rear trac bar.  The 2552 was stock from the factory.  There was a lot of wind coming and going, both leading, following and crosswinds.  Experienced no handling problems with either vehicle.  At this point I will do more evaluating before seeing a need to add anti-sway bars to the new unit.  I will add one of the after market steering stabilizers as the buffeting from large vehicles is annoying.  May also add a trac bar to tighten up the frame to chassis.  Stability of the 2552 is greatly improved over the 2350 by moving the fresh water tank from the very rear of the 2350 to basically over the rear axle on the 2552.  That eliminates a large pendulum affect with sloshing water.  The more weight you can place onto or forward of the rear axle, the better your stability and handling. I found the 2552 was better handling, a smoother ride and quieter over our 2350.  One area on the 2350 we found that created annoying rattles was the dinette table.  To eliminate some of this we would put the table down and move the cushions to the bed position.  One negative on the 2552 over the 2350 is with the longer wheelbase your turning radius increases so you have to be more aware of your room to manuever, especially in gas stations and parking lots.  But, that negative is also a big positive for roadability.  With a shorter wheelbase you get a choppier ride over pavement irregularities, whereas a longer wheelbase provides a much smoother ride and this was my experience on the way home. Also, the additional weight of the 2552S adds to the smoother ride.   I did find in comparing fuel mileage for the round trip to be similar.  Of course the 450 engine is not "broke in", but I did not see a big variation in the comparison fuel consumption. Will have to do more on this in the future, knowing what I was getting on the 2350. 
    These are my personal observations and opinions.
    Bob
158  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 08, 2010, 06:51:06 pm
I will try and answer the many questions.  On our 2350 we had another automotive seat installed in place of the barrel chair behind the passenger seat.  Needed to safely carry our granddaughter.  We found the corner bed to be a real pain.  Maybe OK for young people, but not for us.  Spoke to Stewart about the 2551.  Needed more room to put another auto seat behind passenger.  Therefore the evolution of the 2552S being a slideout with a couch.  Found the 2350 dinette uncomfortable.  Will be adding a short pair of legs to the couch table and wife will make a cushion so table can be used as a foot stool for relaxing.  Stewart and Kermit came up with adding 12 inches to the coach which would give the extra room.  By lengthening the coach they were able to add a slideout pantry between the refrig. and the couch and room for the auto seat behind the passenger seat.  Some of the other items we had installed are:  a Max fan 6200 in the bed area, it is a self contained unit that can be left open in bad weather as when open it has its own cover.  Moved the Fantastic Fan forward to the slideout area. Had a 3 inch pullout drawer installed in one of the closets over the bed, room for wifes jewelry and computer. Wood rails on the tapered wing areas, which allows items to be left in those areas while driving. Two six volt batteries(More power available). Three way refrig. We always use DC when on the road, contrary to what some say there is plenty of DC available and the RV standard is not to use propane on the road(safety). Added insulation in the side cap area where there is none. Had an upgraded water pump, water pump strainer and flex lines added between the pump and the hard lines, eliminates the transfer of noise through the system. Had Ford Rep. come to the PC Factory and program the computer for the Keyless Remotes which gave us two remotes.  We had shutoffs added inside the coach for the outside shower so once blown out they can be shut off and coach still useable in winter.  On our 2552, PC has added an access panel under the mattress for the water pump and added a valve and hose so you can pump anti-freeze directly into the system, nice addition for those that use anti-freeze.  
     The 2350 on E-Bay is our old unit, if you can call nine months old.  The paint is the Desert Sage and cherry cabinets, same on the new unit.  Went with the Tom Tom system to eliminate hitting head on backup camera on the overhead and having to look up to see the screen.  
     Where can you find a manufacturer to do these custom items in this day.  My hat is off to PC and I will promote their product.
     Bob
159  Main Forum / General Discussion / New PC 2551/2552 on: December 06, 2010, 07:34:58 pm
Picked up our new PC Dec. 2.  Traded our 2010 2350.  Picture is in Bozeman, Montana at an overnight stop with outside temperature at a minus 10 degrees.  Furnace kept inside comfortable.  This is the second or third try to post this.  Appears photo was too large.
    Bob
160  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: November 01, 2010, 01:26:29 pm
I live in North Idaho. My winterizing procedure is drain the all tanks: grey and black, fresh water and water heater.  Turn on water heater bypass.  I have made a fitting to hook up my air compressor to the city fresh water hookup.  I blow out all lines with air including the toilet.  With the drain on the water heater still unplugged, I open the coldwater line to the water heater blow out some residual water in the heater, although the heater manual states, about two quarts will remain in the heater and is OK for the winter.  Close the heater line again and run the water pump to get any remaining water out of the pump.  Run air through all faucets, and do not forget the outdoor shower.  I had PC install shut-offs inside the coach for the outdoor shower as we sometimes use our coach in the winter, so after the outside shower is blown out we close the shut-offs and do not have to worry about that area freezing.  After everything is blown out, I add RV antifreeze to all the drains(p-traps), and do not forget the shower drain and toilet.  I pour about half a gallon into the shower drain and then open the gate valve on the grey tank so it goes to the sani-con pump, run it momentarily to protect it, then close the gate valve.  There is enough anti-freeze in the systems to protect the gate valves, especially if you use your unit in the winter. Nothing like going to dump and finding your gate valves frozen shut.  Another thought is you may find RV antifreeze expensive, so an option is windshield washer antifreeze fluid.  Our local dealers use it exclusively, but do not use it in your freshwater lines.  After they are blown out there is no reason to run antifreeze through empty lines.  I use about 50 PSI air to blow out the lines. One thing I was surprised about was the lack of a sacrificial anode in the water heater.  Without one, in most cases the electric heating element becomes the sacrificial anode.  My first RV water heater without one.  Just my thoughts.
     Bob
161  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: October 12, 2010, 03:23:46 pm
The tether anchors are made by Secure-tite and are called Wire Ring Anchor Points.  They have a 900 lb. capacity.  They are not bolted to the pedestal but forward and aft of the pedestal and secured to the frame below the floor.  I believe we purchased them at Lowes.  We provided them to PC and they installed them.  The reason for two is whether the baby seat is mounted in the forward facing or rear facing position.  When they are young you need to have the seat rear facing.  Hope this helps.
    Bob
162  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: October 12, 2010, 02:12:01 am
If I have mastered this site, I will post pictures of our 2350 with the third Captains chair.  The metal loops are steel fold downs for a baby seat tether.
    Bob
163  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 07, 2010, 02:06:26 pm
This is just one example of a state requirement for mirror visibility. This happens to be Idaho. 
    Bob

TITLE 49
MOTOR VEHICLES
CHAPTER 9
VEHICLE EQUIPMENT
49-940.MIRRORS. (1) Every motor vehicle shall be equipped with a mirror so located as to reflect to the operator a view of the highway for a distance of at least two hundred (200) feet to the rear of the vehicle.
(2)  When a motor vehicle is so loaded or constructed, or is towing a vehicle or trailer which is so loaded or constructed as to obstruct the drivers view straight to the rear, then the motor vehicle shall be equipped with a mirror on the left side and a mirror on the right side so located as to reflect to the operator a view of the highway for a distance of at least two hundred (200) feet to the rear of the vehicle.
(3)  When an operator of a motor vehicle is transporting under special permit authority an oversize load which makes mirrors impractical devices for reflecting to the operator a view of the highway to the rear, a following escort vehicle equipped with proper mirrors meeting the requirements herein may be substituted for the required mirrors on the hauling motor vehicle. The escort vehicle must be a car or light truck and it must be equipped with an oversize load sign, flashing or rotating lights, and a two (2) way radio which provides full-time communication with the escorted vehicle.
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164  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 07, 2010, 12:47:21 am
Just for info.  We have a 2350 and we needed another seat for our baby granddaughter.  Stewart suggested replacing the barrel chair with another Ford swivel/reclining Captains seat locking in the forward position.  It works great and can swivel and recline to any position. Much more comfortable than the barrel chair.  They also added forward and aft tie downs for the seat anchored to the frame.
     We also had a MAXAIR Maxxfan, model #6200 with remote.  When closed it has a very low profile and when open it is still a streamlined low profile.  It can be left open all the time as no rain can get in.  Look at the green 2350 on the new brochure and you will see how low a profile it is. 
      One other subject.  The width of your outside mirrors.  The mirrors are designed a certain width as the law in most states requires your rear visibility to be able to see a point a specific distance directly behind your vehicle.  If you shorten the arms, that point will move much farther aft of your vehicle, thereby creating a very large blind spot. 
    Bob
165  Main Forum / General Discussion / Roof Rack Ladder on: August 24, 2010, 05:35:39 pm
The roof rack is handy when needed to check anything on the roof. But, the majority of time it is an obstruction to get in the rear compartment.  My solution: Pull the pins, move the bottom free of the bottom brackets and then reinstall the pins.  Place the the lower portion of the ladder in the up or storage position.  I then use double sided velcro straps and wrap the upper and lower ladder sections vertical tubes(both sides).  Make them tight so they can not rattle and chafe each other.  Now I have free access to the rear compartment, but still have my ladder available if needed.  The double sided velcro comes in a roll and also becomes handy for securing a myriad of things.
   Bob
   Idaho 
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