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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water in outside rear compartment on: March 13, 2014, 02:08:05 pm
I will try again to answer some of the questions asked in regard to my original "water in outside compt.".  Last night I wrote a reply and added pictures but when I tried to post it, it was too large and essentially disappeared.
     We started with a 2350 with no slide and an air mattress.  Corner bed was unsat, probably OK if you were not confined with two walls.  We were going to a 2551 with a third Captains chair behind the passenger seat like on our 2350.  Kermit said not enough room for the third chair, but we can extend the chassis by one foot and have room for the chair.  Thereby the evolution of the 2552.  They asked my wife if she would like a slide out pantry by the refrig because the extra foot of chassis would allow the room.  Naturally she said yes.  We thoroughly loved the 2552 until we took two long trips.  Averaging 5.3 MPG doesn't cut it and costing $2000 each trip in fuel to visit family several times a year, is cost prohibitive.  Ford said nothing was wrong with the engine, although it should be getting better mileage.  
     We are back to a 2350 with slide and the electric couch which will make for a better sleeping arrangement.  We rarely travel and camp anymore and need the accommodations when visiting family.  From everything I have read most are getting 10 to 12 MPG and I can live with that.
     Now the water.  The 2552 had a severe water intrusion into the rear outside compt.  After putting a movie camera with a light inside, spraying water on the outside, it was discovered water was coming in at the bottom of the door.  What I found was the material the door was made of had been cut too short and did not fill the frame.  Water came in, filled the frame channel and overflowed into the compt.  After sending pictures, Kermit had a complete new door with mounting frame painted and sent to me.  I removed the old frame and door, sealed and riveted the new one in place.  No more leaks.
     The water leakage in the 2350 is coming from around the two latches.  I put a couple of beads of silicone on the compt. floor to isolate where the water could be coming from.  That location had to be the latches.  I put red food coloring around the latches, lightly sprayed water on the door and waited, opened the door and here came the red dyed water.  When it dries out, I will loosen the latches and then silicone seal the latch to door area.
     This is a new coach with no hoses in there at this time.  I also drain my hoses and connect them end to end when traveling.
     For information, one of my electric reclining seats did not work.  Called Kermit and he said to check wiring behind the switch.  I pulled the switch and found a plug that plugs into the switch had pulled out.  He said they have been having some problems with this.  So, If anybody has a problem with that system, that is an easy troubleshooting repair.
     We also installed and stapled  a thin indoor/outdoor carpet over the chipboard on the bed base to eliminate splinters and tearing of material on the mattress.  
     I also cut a 10X10 hole in the chipboard around the water pump location, lined the bottom of the hole with 1X2 and now the piece cut out rests on that frame. This gives ready access for visual checking for water leaks and maintenance if needed.  The access PC provided through the side outside location is way too far from the pump and tank.  
     I hope this  is not too long and provides answers to questions asked.
     I also found a hairline crack in one corner of the shower floor pan.  Had to look close to see it.  Sealed with RTV.  Do not want water under that pan.
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Water in outside rear compartment on: March 10, 2014, 01:21:45 pm
My first encounter with water was in our 2552 where I eventually had to replace the entire door and frame provided and shipped to me by Kermit.  I now have a 2014 2350 we just took delivery of a couple of weeks ago and I find after a rain, water in this compartment.  I am trying to isolate where it comes from as there is no water on the walls or the spare tire housing.  It is obvious it has been wet before we took delivery as the mold and mildew on the caulking around the bottom rear most area has been there for awhile.  Just curious if I am the only one who has this problem.
     I have not contacted the Factory yet, but will as soon as I can locate the intrusion area.
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sofa in 2551 on: February 23, 2014, 06:32:56 pm
We had the fold out couch with the air mattress and heard so many horror stories on the air mattress, so we drove back to PC and had that unit taken out and the couch with the dual reclining individual seats, with extendable foot rest, installed.  That was in our 2552.  Took an hour or two to complete and well worth it.  With both seats relined with the foot rest out, you have a large bed.  I do not remember the cost, but it was satisfactory for us.
34  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: WEST COAST TRAVEL WINTER TIME on: December 28, 2013, 01:37:19 am
     The four places we usually camp out from N. Idaho to San Diego are as follows:
1.  Santa Nella RV Park/13023 Calif. Hgwy 33/ Just off I-5.  2. Kit Fox RV Park, I-5 Sperry off ramp, East to left on Rogers Road.  3 Canyonville, Oregon, Seven Feathers Casino Resort, Dry Camping below the Casino (no charge)/Opposite side of I-5 from Casino, Casino has a real nice full service campground.  4. Corning, Calif., Heritage RV Park, 975 Hgwy 99W(East side of I-5).  These are usually our stops and not listed in any particular way.  We may use one or two on a trip, depending how we feel about stopping.  After you get North of Sacramento, CA., there are many more campgrounds in Calif., Oregon and Washington, these are just the ones we use.  Hope this helps.
35  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: WEST COAST TRAVEL WINTER TIME on: December 26, 2013, 02:30:12 pm
   We do this trip several times each year in the winter from Idaho to Portland, Ore. down I-5 to San Diego.  Basically, there are two areas you can run into real winter weather.  The first is I-5 North of LA going over the Grapevine.  On rare occasions a snow storm has shut down this area.  Usually not for long.  If we run into this and there is going to be a lengthy delay,  we go up Hgwy 101 and then cut back over from Hgwy 152  to I-5 North of Salinas, CA.  The second area on I-5 is crossing the mountains from Calif. into Oregon.  This is where we run into most of our winter weather and at times we are required to have chains.  They are usually good at keeping these areas open as they are so well traveled.  One year we got in a heavy snow storm outside Portand, Ore. and the area was basically shut down.  People were abandoning their cars in underpasses because it was too slippery and they could not go any farther.  Oregon doesn't do a lot to keep their roads clear, believe salts and chemicals will damage the environment. Different world in Washington.  Cross in Wash. and the roads are cleared.  That year we pulled off at a Dennys  in Oreg.for some hot soup and then asked the Manager if we could park overnight in their lot.  So, the next day traffic had dispersed, we had breakfast at Dennys and had a slow but uneventful ride home. 
    We do this trip to see our granddaughter and family, so it is a very familiar route.
Probably more info then you need, but my experiences.
36  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Noisy converter? on: November 16, 2013, 06:19:01 pm
    The opening is for return air to the furnace, so if you put a whisper quiet fan through the wall it would pull the hot air out and the other opening would provide recirculation.  Just a thought.  There are fans for computers that you can not even hear.
37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Window tint, driver and passenger side windows on: November 16, 2013, 06:13:55 pm
   I had just written a reply but somehow it did not get sent.  Barry covered what I had said about laws on tinting windows.  I use limousine tint on my side windows covering from the top down about six inches leaving the rest of the window clear.  This provides like a built-in sun shade.  This is legal.  Another thought on the tinting the whole window is when the sun is on that tinted window the window gets very hot which makes it harder for the A/C to work.  You cannot appreciate why the Police do not want this dark tint on windows until you make a stop at night and can not see inside the vehicle.  Just my thoughts.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Noisy converter? on: November 16, 2013, 12:42:52 pm
    I think you have hit on the one problem with the fan operation.  All the heat is captive under the bed with no way out, with the ducting and furnace located there. If I found that to be the problem I would purchase one of the computer type cooling whisper quiet fans, cut a hole in the wood under the bed, and install it to pull air out from that area.  Just a thought.
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: At long last - Our PC arrives! on: November 14, 2013, 11:45:17 pm
     Hopefully this is some helpful info.  The small cutout on the passenger side bed is to provide access to the water pump which should have a clear vinyl tube attached to the pump.  The cutout is directly above the pump and tubing.  The tubing is to be placed in container of RV antifreeze and then pumped through the system for those that use that type of winterizing.
    I always leave my ladder up and secure it with the double sided velcro that comes in a roll.  I wrap it around at least once and a half.  It must be held tight so there is no chafing of the aluminum tubes.   I have had too many bungee failures and don't trust them.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Fuel Mileage on: November 03, 2013, 12:58:46 am
     Glad you like the design.  According to PC it has become the best seller.  Something else I did was to install 3.5 inch high, matching wood sides around the shelf beside the bathroom sink and cut some non-skid material for the  counter top.  Now we can leave hand cream and other items out and not worry about them sliding around, or falling off.  I also used the velcro tape that comes in rolls and adheres to itself to secure the bottom section of the rear ladder to the top section.  After folding it up I wrap the velcro around at least two times, tightly, to make sure there is no chafing and the ladder is secure.  Now the ladder is available when needed but is not in the way of getting in to the rear compartment.
41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Fuel Mileage on: November 01, 2013, 02:00:32 pm
My side banner profile was established before there was an actual designated 2552 and they made one for us.   PC actually put on our order paperwork that the designation at the time was a 2551 Special. PC established the designation of 2552 after the fact. I put in the 2552 as our unit.  Never had a 2551.  They lengthened a 2551 by one foot so we could add the third Captains chair behind the passenger seat. To those that are looking at the website for possible purchase of a PC, they lengthened the coach by one foot and that means the floor, roof and side walls so we could have an extra Captains chair.  Not only do you change the physical structure, but you now have to change wiring, plumbing, etc. to fit the new structural modifications.
    This was a trade up from our 2350 where we started the third Captains chair behind the passenger for our Granddaughters car seat.   
     They did this just for a customer and I do not believe Winnebago would, or any other RV manufacturer would. 
    I do appreciate the inputs this question generated like "the hills in Florida are only the overpasses(Tom)".  A little levity is good.   
Thanks for all the information.
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Fuel Mileage on: November 01, 2013, 12:35:21 am
The reason I was curious as to the fuel mileage on the 2350 with the Ford V10, is because on the first 2552 on the E450 and the V10, we were averaging 5.3 to 6 MPG at 55 to 60 MPH.  All Interstate, no mountains and no towing.  Mileage verified with a Scan Gage and checked with computer.  Ford said the 5.4, V8 should get better mileage.
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / PC 2350 Fuel Mileage on: October 30, 2013, 11:46:11 pm
Just curious as to what owners are experiencing in fuel mileage with their V10 on the 2350.  Most of us keep track of our fuel consumption.
44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Optional Ford V-8 on: October 22, 2013, 06:33:53 pm
Did anybody notice on one of Earls videos he says there is also available a Ford V-8 engine.  I wonder if is the new Ford, supposedly with better fuel mileage and power similar to the V-10.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question on propane furnace on: October 21, 2013, 01:34:18 pm
All RV heaters are sealed combustion units.  They get their air from the outside and the exhaust goes back outside.  Look at your heater vent on the outside wall of your coach.  There are two openings, one for intake and one for exhaust.  That is the same for the hot water heater.   Although, when you are cooking on the propane stove you definitely need a window or vent open.
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