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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 24, 2016, 08:46:59 am
You must be right Doneworking.  I can see not wanting to change the doghouse engineering but putting 5/8" of insulation on the cold, noise transmitting floor is beyond me especially when there is a Ford part for the application?
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 24, 2016, 07:19:19 am
It would be very interesting to know why PC made this decision?  One has to wonder if we are missing something here?  Thanks for asking PP.  Ron G.
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2016 - 2351 Options and Modifications on: June 23, 2016, 11:11:36 am
polish prince....PC does not usually take the door panels or dog house out during construction of the coach for their is no reason to do such so I sure that is slowing their decision and pricing some.  well worth doing no matter what the upcharge is if you do not want to do it yourself.   Ron G.
34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 23, 2016, 09:11:51 am
QuiteSolutions's web site is excellent explaining all of their different products and what each of them is suppose to accomplish.  The floor kit that is all pre cut (Ford product) and the QuiteSolutions part number is Econo-9214-VFK and is $178.00 plus shipping.  The cowl kit is $111.00 plus shipping.  Putting the floor kit down during construction should be a walk in the park since everything is stripped out.  One has to wonder why the floor insulation is not just put down automatically?  I would love to know what the counter argument might be to not do such?  Thanks, Ron
35  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 22, 2016, 03:39:58 pm
More insulation everywhere!   Cab in particular, floor, doors, front cap.  Go with the double pain windows, e-450 chassis, forget the in dash navigation.  I would go with the light hickory wood, I am getting sick of the dark cherry, see if they offer a theater set up for the sofa seating, slide is a must.  I do like the ladder but no roof rack approach.  Full body paint looks super but it sure is a lot of money just for looks.  I would have PC install any and all suspension upgrades you can afford, new shocks, front and rear stabilizers, trac bar.  Guess that is it from my perspective.  Ron G.
36  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New speakers on: June 22, 2016, 10:36:21 am
Have not gotten that far back yet!!!
37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New speakers on: June 22, 2016, 09:46:46 am
There are adapters for the older E-350-450 as well as the new models just order the right one.  Very easy installation.  Go for it!  Ron G.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / New speakers on: June 22, 2016, 08:43:08 am
As I stated in my cab soundproofing post I installed new Infinity speakers when I had the door panels off.  I have now fine tuned the radio and I can tell you the sound quality has been significantly improved.  The Infinity speakers (model # 6832cf) are and exact match to the Ford OEM ones, they come with a build in adjustable tweeter and have great base sound.   Amazon sells them for $99.00 and I would suggest you get the little plug adapters for another $7.00 for the pair so you do not have to cut anything.  There is a super Youtube video that shows how to get the panels off and install the new speakers easily.  There are only 4 screws holding the door panel on and it then lifts up and out, I would suggest you might want to purchase a pry tool from a local automotive store ($7.00) for use on the  power window panel that utilizes those little fasteners, the tool just makes the job so much easier.   best of luck, it is worth the hour of labor for sure.   Ron G. 
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 21, 2016, 01:11:20 pm
Quieteride Solutions based in CA. is the best resource....there web site specifically outlines the entire kit for the E-450 or you can buy separate pieces if your should desire.   I ordered everything from the web from the company's I mentioned, their sites are great and explain/describe everything.  I honestly discarded all of the packaging slips order sheets so can not give you exact numbers but the sites have that info.  I would have QuieteSolutions drop ship right to PC if I was you.  I am sure Kermit has resources as well that he uses.  Better insulation is worth every cent, I would have PC put extra sound proofing in the front cap as well, right now they just run the ceiling insulation down the front and that is not enough at all.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wrangler Unlimited as a toad? on: June 20, 2016, 03:37:25 pm
I would agree 150% Ron D.  Strong, light weight chassis with a world class engine that used correctly is a good combo but do not ask it to do more than it is capable of doing safely....Ron G.
41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wrangler Unlimited as a toad? on: June 20, 2016, 09:50:59 am
Having once had (very short time) a Monica Covina (Sprinter based) I never even considered for a moment towing my Jeep Liberty CRD, 4500 lbs.  While that 3.0L is a work horse the Sprinter chassis IMO is close to it max. when fully loaded.  I would never pull a toad weighing over 2800 lbs behind a Sprinter, just not safe. 
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soundproofing the cab on: June 20, 2016, 08:43:35 am
That is a tough question to be honest Pax.  The insulation in the doors really quiets the noise coming from passing cars/trucks.  Where I see the biggest improvement is when the vehicle down shifts you do not hear that real roar, it is deadened considerably.  I guess I would say the floor insulation and the doghouse work would be where I would start.   There is a lot of heat that comes up thru that uninsulated floor and of course noise.   The worse aspect is fighting the dog house, I really took time to make sure the gasket made up to the floor correctly and it is a pain because you can not see anything in behind so  must feel your way.  The company's I ordered the kits from were super and the orders came very fast.  Having the pre cut carpet from PC ($61.00) made life very easy, I would not have tried to custom cut carpet, I have tried before and it is and art that I do not have.  While it is a PIA to do everything I can now say there is nothing else I can possibly do to make the cab area any quieter.   I do think I will tackle the front cap  wing areas because I know there is next to zero insulation in those areas and a lot of wind noise comes from them.  Will keep you posted.
On another note,  I found a nice little mouse nest built right in between the "V" of the engine way back under the doghouse.  I do not know why it never ignited!  You all might want to check for such a situation if you live in and area that is prone to field mice!  Thanks, Ron G.
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Soundproofing the cab on: June 19, 2016, 06:46:20 pm
I have never been overly pleased with what I consider to be excess noise in the E-450 cab so I decided to see what I could do to make the cab somewhat more enjoyable.  I insulated the hood with a great selfsticking product from DEI Engineering, their hood thermal acoustic lining looks nice installed and does in fact deaden the tinny sound of the hood.  Next I stripped the doors down and used a product from Eastwood industries, I used their heavy XMatt product that is suppose to reduce noise by approx. 18 decibels,  it sure made the doors closing sound far more solid.  While I was in the door panel I replaced the stock (weak) Ford speakers with  a set of Infinity's,  they sound superb and are exactly the same shape/size as the Ford speakers.  I then turned to the floor.....capt. seats came out, ripped out the  PC stuck down carpet, ordered a new piece of ready cut carpet from Carol at PC.  I ordered a great ready cut kit from QuietrideSolutions, the kit includes  floor insulation as well as  strips and squares of Dynamat material that are strategically placed on the floor as detailed in their instructions.  Ironically, the insulation had the Ford  logo on the packaging and a Ford part number. After putting the Dynamat down the foil sided (one side) insulation is spray glued in place over the Dynamat.  All seams and edges are sealed with tin foil stick tape.  The new carpet went down slick and I again glued it down in strategic  places so it will not move around at all.  The biggest pain was the dog house removal/putting back.  Once out of the vehicle you remove the Ford insulation.  I then installed another ready to install insulation package from Quietride Solutions, the three pieces are all pre cut and fit perfectly.   The new insulation is spray glued in place and then the Ford formed insulation goes back in place right over the newly installed insulation.  I can honestly say that I have reduced cab noise by approx. 45%, my wife, the hardest judge agrees with me.  Total job ran me  $516.00, not cheap, and two days of my labor but I am very pleased.  One has to wonder why PC does not offer a package of extra insulation from the factory?  Another project done!
44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Cracked shower pan on 2350 on: June 09, 2016, 01:30:25 pm
What Ron D. is referencing is the use of plaster of paris by plumbers under shower pans.  They place a large "blob" of the stuff and then push the pan into it.  They say you cannot use joint compound it must be plaster of paris.  I really do not think that approach would be a good idea in a rolling house!   Foam insulation would be my recommendation and I am not sure that will actually work all that hot either.   Thanks, Ron G.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Much Are You Towing on: June 05, 2016, 02:37:22 pm
the new Jeep Renegade can be towed but only models equipped with the smaller of the two engines that allows for  standard shift.  The lager engine only comes with the new 9 speed automatic and can not be towed four down.  The Cherokee has the same transmission but has a different PTO setup that does allow it to be towed.  Thanks, Ron G.
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