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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: REAR AXEL OVER LOADED on: September 15, 2014, 10:50:53 am
My 3100S fully loaded including two adults, one dog and full tanks (not sewer tanks) came in at 4,460 lbs front (540 lbs under max.); rear was 9,140 lbs, (360 lbs under max) for a total of 13,600 lbs (900 lbs under max).  I run the tires at the inflation rate as determined from the Michelin tables at  70 lbs front and 74 lbs rear.  Not sure what the actual calculated tongue weight is for my new Jeep Cherokee but I would guess I am still under max GVW and OK from the CGVW since the jeep's weight is 4250 lbs.   I  guess those three slides are sure heavy on the 29's?  I wonder how other brands put larger boxes on the 450 chassis and offer three slides as well, they must be way over weight coming out of the gate?   Hope this helps, thanks, Ron
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: REAR AXEL OVER LOADED on: September 08, 2014, 10:30:06 am
I just looked back and found my specific numbers...fully loaded and ready to head out my 3100S came in at 13,600 lbs.;  9140 lbs rear; 4460 lbs front.  900 lbs under max.   hope this helps?  thanks
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: REAR AXEL OVER LOADED on: September 08, 2014, 10:16:40 am
My 3100 with one slide, full tanks, two adults, fully loaded including 75 lb dog came in 1100 pounds under GVW and both axles were under max. capacity.  I have not done individual wheel weight but would like to. Not sure what to say.   Thanks
34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC vs.Nexus on: September 08, 2014, 10:12:43 am
I have not seen a Nexus in person or on the road so cannot give a first hand review of the product,  and obviously I have a bias towards PC's.  I would want to see what Nexus uses for flooring (can not find anything on their website) I bet it is not marine plywood like PC uses?  I like the built in spare tire approach that PC uses, can not see where the spare is kept on the Nexus.  I like the built in cab step that PC uses vs's the exposed style that Nexus uses.  I like the rear bulkhead that PC offers and the lines it creates with the rear cap vs's the plain square look.  I hate all of the names Nexus utilizes for their coaches...Viper is all right for a high powered Dodge product but not and RV, nor is Ghost, etc.  While PC's may be more expensive I can personally see where the differences could come in to play and think the PC is worth the extra dollars.   best of luck.   thanks
35  Main Forum / General Discussion / Brake Buddy on: August 29, 2014, 11:00:19 am
FYI....For all with the new Jeep Cherokee utilizing a Brake Buddy set up for towing four down....the clevis set up  on the BB does not slide over the top of the brake pedal because the Cherokee's pedal shaft is just to wide.  I tried to grind the notch wider but was not happy with the outcome or fit.  I emailed BB and got a very fast response they  have a new modified clevis set up specifically for the Cherokee's pedal and they are sending it out to me free of charge.   Great company I must say with super customer service.   I hope everyone has a safe long weekend!   Thanks, Ron
36  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: August 11, 2014, 09:42:38 am
Skipper....I hear you loud and clear and the hassle is some times just not worth it but it just irritates me that the coach owner  (I purchased the unit new) purchases a coach expecting everything to be A-OK and when it is not it should be made right especially if the unit only has 7000 miles on it.   I am sure many would not feel the vibration I feel or they would merely tolerate it, I am critical and will get the vibration fixed one way or another.  I have had my issues with Ford going back to a 1995 Holiday Rambler on the F-53 chassis that had ongoing fuel pump issues that Ford could not seem to resolve and we "settled" and not in a Ford dealership setting!   I have been told by someone who knows that any of the company reps that you might talk to in regards to warranty work or buy back negotiations are actually compensated on how much they do not pay out, so it is in their best interest to push back on the consumer.   thanks
37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: August 06, 2014, 09:59:24 am
Update...I called Ford Motor Co.'s RV customer service line yesterday to inquire as to what suggestions they might have to remedy the ongoing vibration I have in my 2012 E-450 with 7,000 miles on it....I placed the call primarily out of principal and due to the fact I know there are no Ford dealers in NH that have the capability to balance all three shafts at once... I was primarily looking for permission to go "out of network" without loosing the potential for Ford warranty coverage.   My conversation began positive but soon turned somewhat negative as the Ford rep resorted to reading from the "old Ford defensive play book".  For the record there are two certified Ford frame modifiers in Elkhart who follow closely the Ford tech specs for frame extending and in most cases actually utilize Ford drive shafts for the application.  Because Ford did not do the actual work they are not responsible for any warranty coverage.  While I understand their position I find this "gray area" disturbing in that I have read the warranty booklet very closely and there is absolutely no mention of any break in driveline warranty coverage (5 years/60,000 miles) if the frame has been modified.   The booklet specifically mentions limo and ambulance applications (no mention of RV's) but states clearly that as long as the fabricators use a Ford certified chassis for specific applications the Ford warranty is still in affect.  PC uses RV certified chassis in all of their coaches.  As the end user I think we should all be aware that if there is and issue with the frame, drive shafts, of other components excluding the engine, transmission and rear end we are all with out any  Ford warranty coverage.  We all spend a lot of money to purchase our coaches and with that purchase comes the implied warranty coverage and I find it upsetting when an issue surfaces know one (Ford, the certified Ford frame extender, or PC) steps up to assist the owner.  In conclusion,  I spoke with my local Ford dealer who is willing to approach the regional Ford rep about some assistance (good will $$$) when the vibration is resolved.  What is ironic is the Ford dealer got absolutely nothing out of my purchase of the PC and yet is willing to help me out.   I look forward to what differing opinions of this situation you all have?   "Live Free or Die", NH's state slogan says it all.   Thanks
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: August 01, 2014, 08:39:55 pm
Kermit returned my call today and we had an informative conversation regarding the vibration.  His rule is if you can feel it in your butt it is driveline, in the wheel it is tire related.  His advise was that not balancing all of the shafts together would most likely be a waste.   A truck garage that specializes in suspension, driveline issues in Portland, Maine can balance all three together.  I think I will take the rig up there and leave it since they claim to have a super guy who just specializes with such issues.   Will keep you all poster.   thanks
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: August 01, 2014, 09:49:57 am unit is still under Ford 3/36 warranty but I know I will have a fight to get them to cover.  Still awaiting to get Kermit's input.  Your point is well taken in that there is no way the three shafts not balanced together could ever work.   will keep you posted.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: July 29, 2014, 04:30:51 pm
Update...Ford dealer would like to pull the shafts and send them to a truck dealership that has a shaft balancer.  The only issue is they do not have the capability to do all three together, that bothers me.  I have left a message for Kermit to get his input if doing them separately will solve the problem....I was quoted $450 for the balancing (on top of the road force at $300 and the first balance job at $60) the dollars are adding up with no garrantee! I would hate to throw the towel in and say "I can live with it".  Not sure why the end user (coach owners) should be picking the tab up here? NHWander....please know that any coach over 30 feet is going to have the extended driveline/frame extension.  The stock Ford wheel  bases would not have such extensions.  Thanks
41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: July 27, 2014, 07:46:22 pm
Update....Got vehicle back from Ford dealer on Friday.  They moved some tires around on the back thinking they might be able to reduce vibration.  I really appreciated their efforts and they did not charge me for their efforts(I am still getting over what they charged me for the road force balancing!).
No real significant change I do not think they want to get into balancing the shafts but guess that is the route we must take.  Ths.
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: July 24, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
Update....Ford service dept. took the rig out on the highway and found the vehicle does in fact have a serious vibration.  On the lift they observed the off center driveline  and the sharp angle of the final shaft into the differential.  I have forwarded all of Skipper's research and exp. and Kermit's excellent input.  They have kept the vehicle to do some research themselves to see what their approach might be?  Nothing has been said as to who's responsibility the fix will be....will keep you posted.  Vehicle has 7000 miles on it.  Vibration does appear to be getting worse.  thanks
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: July 24, 2014, 09:25:49 am
Update....Ford road force balanced all six (6) tires yesterday (to the tune of $300!!!) and said it was all set with one being way out of balance.     Picked unit up and the vibration was the same as before!   Back today to begin to look at the driveline, I supplied them with all of the info that Shipper outlined.   We will see what they find today, to say the least,  the $300 charge will be discussed.  Why is nothing easy?   Ths.
44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: vibration in driveline on: July 18, 2014, 10:30:26 am
Skipper.....thank you very much for outlining my options and approaches.  I will do exactly what you have outlined prior to going to Ford.  I hope the same equipment that your were able to untilize is available here!    ths.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / vibration in driveline on: July 16, 2014, 02:47:11 pm
I read all of Skippers  past posts regarding driveline vibration and what he went thru to get to a good ending very interesting. It appears that I have the same vibration in my 2012 3100.  I had a vibration before the Michelin recall and thought perhaps one of the tires had thrown a weight or something.  New Michelins were put on in Feb. and I have now had them reballanced twice and the vibration is still with me!  Seems to be worse in that 62 MPH range.   I guess i will contact Ford and get ready for the dealer run around and finger pointing as to who's responsibility it will be to correct the problem.  Will keep you posted.
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