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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Slide, leak or no leak on: August 17, 2017, 11:56:41 pm

The PC leak issue is a little unsettling to a prospective buyer.

I was very concerned about the leaking slide issue, as well as the mechanical failure rate on the Lippert-Schwintek side drive system. So much so that I ordered my new 2552 without the slide.

In my case my previous motorhome did not have a slide so I wont miss it on this one.  Many people today feel that they would not be without a slide, but some very well respected RV vendors still do not offer slideouts and they sell more RVs than they can deliver. Examples, LazyDaze Class C and Airstream trailers.

It seems that is because LazyDaze and Airstream want their products to outlast their multiple owners.....and their products do.....and I want our PC to last that long for us.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 17, 2017, 04:36:25 pm
(I hope I got that close to right Ron)
Yep! ThumbsUp
3  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 3-way water-fill valve tip on: August 17, 2017, 08:54:43 am
If you live in the Chicago north-west suburbs, my brother swears by an RV repair shop in Elk Grove Village, IL.  He says they do a great job and charge very little, and are fairly prompt too.  I don't recall the name nor the address but can ask my brother if anyone is interested.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Turning radius of standard 2552 on: August 17, 2017, 08:48:02 am
We have a 2552 and it requires 4 lanes to make a u-turn without backing up.
Interesting.  I will have to pay closer attention how many lanes it takes for us with a 2350.  It's less than 4 lanes.  Maybe it's 3.9 lanes. Smile

Ron Dittmer
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 17, 2017, 08:41:18 am
I think I should stop following this forum... New units with bad toilets, awnings that don't open properly, and slide out leaks.... I'm starting to get worried about my decision to order a PC.  Perhaps they are going the way of other companies or close to closing...
I think that the reliability issues seen in recent years are going to be found across all brands of motor homes.  Since the great recession, many manufactures of RV toilets, refrigerators, awnings and such, moved production to China.  Why China cannot consistently make a decent toilet, why lead is occasionally found in the paint on children's toys, why why why is another topic.  But a public forum is not the place to discuss cultural matters.

Ron Dittmer
6  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 3-way water-fill valve tip on: August 16, 2017, 07:38:59 am
As an aside, Phoenix raised their hourly labor rate to $80 recently.  Still a deal to have someone intimately familiar with your rig work on it, should you be in the general neighborhood.
You make a very good point.

Does anyone recall what the rate used to be there at Phoenix?  I wonder what the rate is at other places like Camping World.  To date I have avoided repair shops, but I want to be educated if I later have a need.
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 14, 2017, 07:27:47 am
I am surprised to read that Phoenix would not send you a new toilet free of charge being that the problem started while the rig was under warranty.  That is not the Phoenix way.   shrug
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Turning radius of standard 2552 on: August 12, 2017, 10:00:49 am
Renotsa----We went through the same exercise last spring when we came very close to buying a 2551.  We have very limited space to fit it in.  Our driveway in the rear of the house is 10' wide and edged by shrubs and gardens on both side.  Its a sharp right angle turn off an alley that is only about 12'-14' wide....also with fence and hedge on either side.

The 2551 has a WB of 194".  We used the same formula to determine a turning radius of roughly 36'.  We also determined the tail swing to be about 2-1/2'   This was important because of the fence in the alley.  Made mock ups and cut outs to try and mimic the turn....still could not be sure.

Then discovered that a 20' Uhaul truck had almost the exact same dimensions as the 2551 in length/width and WB  196".
Spent $50 for an hour and discovered that it would not make the cut.....without ripping out wifes gardens, which was a no go.  The 26' Uhaul looks to have around a 200"+/- WB....but it is quite a bit longer overall.  Attached is the 20' truck dim.
Hutch, I think that is one great a U-Haul truck of the same length & wheelbase and give it a try.
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Turning radius of standard 2552 on: August 10, 2017, 09:08:24 pm
I always understood that the Sprinter's front wheels turned sharper (more angled to the left and right) than any E-series does.  So the difference would be more than just the wheel base.  But don't take my word for it.  It's just what I thought I recall reading some time ago.
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ford Transit on: August 09, 2017, 03:15:11 pm
Your brother needs to watch his load very closely if his Winnebago is built on the Dodge Ram Promaster chassis with front wheel drive and single rear wheels.  I hear people exceed the load limit extremely quickly.  Don't plan on carrying much.  A 3rd person or a tank of fresh water puts you over GVWR limit.
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Onan issue on: August 08, 2017, 09:48:36 pm
I would unscrew the hour meter panel from the wall and check the connections.  Make sure all connections are good & tight.  I've never had ours out so I don't know how the connection is made.  If it's a snap-on but very loose, gently crimp it with a pliers so there is good resistance getting it back on.

Do it with all power off and the chassis battery disconnected because the starter might get it's power from there.  Work with a flashlight if you have to.  When disconnecting the chassis battery, just disconnect the ground, not the power.  Leave the red connection on and undisturbed.  It is so much safer and reliable doing it that way.
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ford Transit on: August 07, 2017, 05:48:01 pm
We were at the factory in October of last year and noticed a Transit chassis inside the shop.  I don't know anymore than that.
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water heater woes on: August 07, 2017, 05:01:13 pm
I fear you just might be replacing a perfectly good hot water heater.  And if you think "New Is Better", you may be wrong.  I heard the old ones are better than the new ones if made in China.

If you are comfortable doing so, I would try this.

Assuming water got into something it should not have, light the water heater manually using an extended reach lighter, the $1 ones used to start your gas stove.  One person holds the LIGHTED lighter in the tube while the other person starts it up inside.  If any gas is getting through, it will ignite.  Then once it's fired up, it should dry out for you.

As always, make sure your hot water tank is full of water before lighting it.  And as always use common sense.  Safety first.  If you smell gas, don't light up that $1 lighter.  That is why you want it lit in the tube as you start it up inside.  You want to light it before gas builds up.  Apply the same rules you use when lighting your propane stove inside.....Lighter-Flame-On, then turn on the gas.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Diamond Shield on: August 06, 2017, 07:59:55 pm
Nancy or Jake,

You make a great point.  How many Diamond Shield protected PCs are doing well with the product?  What would PCs look like without it?  Ours is looking mighty fine.  Wink
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question on: August 04, 2017, 02:08:32 pm
Bob at PC put a foam block somewhere in the support channel to not allow the awning to close so tightly and did help for a few uses but we're back to pushing it out.  Price we pay for curved sidewalls and not so boxy look.
Interesting remedy, even if only for a few times.  I wonder if the manufacture of the awning offers a spring or something as a permanent solution.  It seems worth a call to ask.
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