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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 03, 2016, 03:10:53 pm
Has anyone here ever performed this experiment?  With your spouse driving your PC on a smooth interstate highway, lay on your back on the floor with your head resting right over the rear axle.

I did that to get a better feel for road vibration being transferred to the motor home through the rear suspension.  Of coarse the results can vary depending on how much air (or extra air) you put into your rear tires.  In our case, I feel "tires-on-road" with the back of my head on the vinyl floor.  I wonder if the Sulastic Shackles I previously mentioned would remove most of it.  If that vibration could be stifled, maybe our house & contents would enjoy the ride much better.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 08:55:07 pm
We have a 2400. Almost anyone we consulted with about the effects on ride height and ride quality recommended adding one or more leafs to the rear spring set instead of air bags. We had a suspension shop add at a leaf to each side four years ago. We have been very happy with the ride and extra 1.5 in of ride height. It was a relatively cheap and simple solution. There was no noticeable effect on handling.
I like that idea.....a lot!
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 07:18:38 pm
From your comment, the Kelderman system sounds like a hybrid utilizing both leaf springs & air bags within the same system.  I don't know what to think about that.

Someone on another RV forum brought Sulastic Shackles to my attention.  Watch the video on that website.  I really like their simplistic method for reducing road vibration & jolting but wonder how well they really work for motor homes.  I also wonder how well they hold up to the weight of a motor home over the years.  $400 is a bit much for me to perform a multi-year experiment.  I would be willing to try a free pair and report to you all how effective they are  Smile

Anyone from Sulastic reading this?  Smile Smile Smile
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 05:13:44 pm
Hi randallandchris,

Here are my thoughts and experience.

Adding the Firestone style of air bags to the stock suspension will toughen the suspension, making the ride rougher.  I say this from my experience with "added" air bags in our first motor home.  Because that rig had no rear stabilizer bar of any kind and no such bar available, the air bags were used to improve stability.  Putting in lots of air for best stability, the rear lifted 3" and the ride was very rough.  So I would add more air only when conditions called for it.  Otherwise I kept the minimum in for a softer ride.  I was able to adjust it while driving.

"Replacing" the rear leaf spring suspension with a full air ride suspension is designed to improve the quality of the ride, making it more comfortable.  The problem with these types of suspensions is that if there is a failure with an air leak of any kind, the vehicle is incapacitated.

Where I volunteer as a mechanic, our church receives donated hotel shuttle buses with full air ride suspension failures.  When I see one, I always think...."Not For Me".  I much prefer the bullet-proof reliability of the stock leaf spring suspension.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Outside electric outlet on: November 30, 2016, 11:38:03 pm
We highly recommend the 2100....  Fits anywhere and perfect for two people.  Our 2100 is the no slide version with a hatch for access to the storage under the fold-out sofa.  The outside outlet is conveniently located just forward of the entry door.
Hi Captain Al,

Do you have any interior pictures of your no-slide 2100?  I am very curious about your sleeping arrangements for two adults.  Please setup the interior for sleeping and take a picture.  No need for bedding.  I simply wonder how it works.  I keep trying to get my sister and her husband into a 2100, and I think they are no-slide people like me.
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 29, 2016, 10:57:58 am

Got my tall ladder out and climbed on the roof.  Here are the measurements:  Height of AC - 11 inches above the roof.  Height of Vent cover - 9 inches above the roof.  I think the discrepancy between the 7 inches and 9 inches is that the base of the vent cover is 7 inches and then the removable cover adds 2 more inches.  I would call it 9 inches for our purpose.

Thank you so much for the measurements.  2" below the height of the Duo-Therm is perfect!  I am putting this one on my To-Do list this winter.  Like you, I worry about leaving the vent open when out for the day, and also desire to resolve the clunking lid in windy conditions.  But our biggest benefit will be when Irene is cooking up a storm during a rain storm, we'd like to open the Fantastic Fan to blast out the smoke, but can't because the rain comes in.  Her Greek cooking is just too much for the range hood vent to handle at particular moments.

We can't beat the price for the benefits received.
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Recliner Damage on: November 29, 2016, 10:04:03 am
Sorry to say I am now posting because we have this problem in our 2013 2100.
I am sorry to read about it Gail.  I hope you and everyone else here with the problem gets this resolved permanently and are able to share the financial burden of it all.  Given you are 3 years beyond the warranty period, it seems to be asking too much for Paul's or Phoenix to pay 100%.  If all three parties pitched in a third, that would make it right by me.  To avoid a repeat, I would consider real top grain leather or cloth for the replacements.  Whatever everyone's decision, NEVER NEVER NEVER get bonded leather for you are guaranteed a repeat.

You can't trust anything coming from China these days.  What frightens me most are their food exports.  They are a huge supplier of organics since they don't practice non-organic farming.  I worry about what they are not disclosing.
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 28, 2016, 08:20:01 pm
Oh, Thanks so much for that quick check.  I would love to hear about your more accurate comparison.  I look forward to your evaluation tomorrow or whenever you get around to it.

I love the affordable price  ThumbsUp, but I would hate to special order this big monster from Walmart just to return it.  I know they would place it on a clearance shelf and take a loss.  I don't want to do that to any retailer.

I can understand that the UV light will weaken the plastic, making it brittle with extended exposure.  I am not worried about that matter given our indoor storage.  Yet good to know.
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 28, 2016, 07:38:08 pm
Hi Barry-Sue,

Thank you for sharing your experience with the Camco aero-flo product.  The lady in the video HERE mentions it is 9" tall.  On Amazon it states 7" tall.  It looks quite tall when watching the video.  Height is a big concern for me because of our low garage door opening.  If the Camco aero-flo stands any taller than our Duo-Therm A/C unit, it won't work.

Assuming yours is mounted at the highest point in the center of your roof, how does it compare to the height of your Duo-Therm A/C unit?  I'll need to measure the height of our A/C unit, but am concerned the spec'd dimensions don't consider the air gap between roof and the product.

Given the curvature of the PC roof and our Fantastic Fan at the top-center, is there any concern over the excessive gap between the sides of the Camco aero-flo and the roof itself?  Do you feel any need to stabilize it better, or is it very solid with all the air turbulance while driving down the highway?

Thanks again,
Ron Dittmer
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 28, 2016, 11:29:20 am
Done since brand new, something irritating with our standard Fantastic fan of 10 years now, is how the wind catches underneath the cover when it is open, lifting and dropping it.  The clunking noise is bad.  When closed up, there is no noise.

How well does the MAXXAIR resist that irritating clunking?
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: ? about tow vehicle, need help on: November 28, 2016, 10:41:51 am
Hi Sandyc,

A back alley method to provide a good idea whether or not your vehicle can be towed with all 4 wheels on the ground is to research if a tow bar hardware kit called a bracket or base plate is available.  If you can't buy a tow bar bracket to mount onto your vehicle to accept a tow bar, then your question is kind-of answered by reverse engineering.  As previously discussed, there are flavors of vehicle models (manual versus automatic) that come into play.  That is where your owners manual will help.  If you can find the proper tow bar bracket (or base plate) for your little pickup truck with manual transmission, then it seems promising.

Even if your vehicle is permitted by the auto maker for towing with all 4 wheels on the pavement, you'll need the proper bolt-on bracket to actually tow it.  ROADMASTER and BLUE OX are the two biggest suppliers I know of.  I would imagine there are other brands to check out.

I reinforce the previous replies.  As newer vehicles have become more and more "Techie" with push button start and so much else, there is more to consider.  It seems tow dollies will be become more popular to get past all that for newer front wheel drive vehicles.  Not so much with 4WD and AWD vehicles.

Ron Dittmer
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Length and Width Restrictions on: November 26, 2016, 05:25:42 pm
Paul's wife and Gail remind me of my wife Irene.  rolling on the floor

Every time we run into a situation where our 2350 with Jeep in-tow is too long and limiting, Irene says that she wished we never sold our little Toyota Mirage of which my typical response is...

Irene always remembers what was good about that little RV, forgetting everything that it lacked which was just about everything.
- no full time bed that was big enough to actually use
- no usable dinette (ended up being our full time bed)
- bed was rediculously small and uncomfortable (the 2350 bed is wonderful by comparison)
- no stove
- no fridge
- no furnace
- no air conditioning (no roof and no chassis)
- no toilet
- no practical sink
- no shower
- no hot water
- no TV
- no screen door
- no awning
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Length and Width Restrictions on: November 25, 2016, 04:35:24 pm
 "Going to the Sun" highway in Glacier National Park must also be studied before a trip.
We were in Glacier in 2013.  Our PC-2350 was officially too long for the Going To The Sun road.  I think the limit is officially 22 feet, so model 2100 would be fine.  Given there are large shuttle buses running to the top of the pass from the east, I believe the limit is related to parking at the top, not the actual road itself from the east.  From the west to the top of the pass, the shuttle buses are smaller so just maybe the hair-pin turns in the road on that side are an issue with a vehicle over 22 feet.  As I recall, the width of the entire 2 lane road on either side of the pass seemed just fine for a PC.  It must be all about the hairpin turns.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The Case of The Missing Power on: November 25, 2016, 01:56:32 pm
Our PC is coming up on 10 years old and I experience this.  With everything in the house shut off and the kill-all switch off as well, and the batteries disconnected, when I place the battery lead on the battery terminal, I get a big spark.  If I lift the lead and immediately touch the battery terminal again, I don't get the spark.  To this day 10 years later, I never understood why it happens.  One thing certain, there is a minor power drain when the batteries remain connected to the motor home while in storage.  Since I go in there now and then over the winter, I leave the batteries hooked up, but I occasionally recharge them manually with my Black and Decker charger.  I am not comfortable having the rig plugged into a wall outlet all the time.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Wishes on: November 25, 2016, 01:15:03 am
Ours too.
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