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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: If you build it they will come on: November 21, 2014, 10:49:25 am
Looking at them, I am surprised you say they made your ride smoother.  I would have thought the opposite would be true.

I am considering Sulastic Shackles for the rear axle to soften our ride.  Model SA-06HDD HERE works with all year cut-away Ford E350 & E450 chassis.  But at near $400 to find out if they are effective, it has me a bit gun shy.  I also wonder if they increase, maintain, or decrease the rear end height.  They do seem to offer a logical and simple approach in softening the ride.  I'll have to keep an eye open for a better price, making it worth the risk of disappointing results.

Sulastic Shackle SA-06HDD


I found this picture comparing the Sulastic to the stock shackle for another vehicle.  Sulastic offers a cushy hinge action.
Concerning is the distance between the mounts being less on Sulastic than the stock resulting in a lower rear end.
And there is no weight yet on the Sulastic.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: If you build it they will come on: November 21, 2014, 09:33:23 am
David,

Could you post the link to the Super Springs you have?  I am not certain we could utilize them for our rig might not clear the garage door afterward, but still am curious.

Ron
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: If you build it they will come on: November 19, 2014, 09:53:50 am
We just traded up from a 2100 to a 2552.  Ride and handling of the 2552 is vastly superior.  The only driving adjustment has been wider turns, I just check the side mirrors on turns and am able to stay between the lines with no problem.  Towing a midsize car on a dolly was no problem either, normally I do not tow.   Drive one, I think you will be a believer.  2travel
I believe you.

The 2100 has the worst wheel base to length ratio and has the fresh water tank over the rear bumper too, so it is going to handle the worst of all models.  With that said, something can be done about it through aftermarket suspension upgrades like we did with our 2007 2350.  Model 2350 is not as extreme as the 2100 but still needs a little help.....at least ours did back in 2007.  The current E350/E450 chassis 2008-2014 is better.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV Cover for 28 foot 2552 on: November 19, 2014, 09:42:30 am
Call Phoenix.  They may have a source for a custom-fit cover.  Custom covers fit right to prevent wind damage to the RV's finish from flapping cover material.  Water runs off better, and some even have a zippered opening for the main entry door.  That allows you to get inside with the cover otherwise undisturbed.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Decisions Decisions on: November 16, 2014, 06:07:54 pm
You got that right! exactly!
Yes Indeed.
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 13, 2014, 12:17:24 pm
speaking of doing things,, all my neighbors hate me I'm the only one around here who still mows their own yard.
sparky
Same here, but out of financial necessity.

I designed our house and with great luck was able to build in a neighborhood where ours is the least of them.  After all, someone with a fitting home had to be at the bottom.  We don't officially fit in with the class of doctors, lawyers, & successful business owners around us, but we fit in every other way, the result of everyone working to assure there are no social barriers.  It is a great place to call home with so many good neighbors who understand who we are and appreciate our determination in keeping a nice home well maintained.  They seem to be entertained at times with our determination in avoiding services.
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 13, 2014, 09:38:06 am
Thanks gl1500 for the lesson on batteries.

I decided to go with AGM technology batteries for my 12V/parallel to 6V/series conversion.  Due to national availability and price, I plan to purchase Two Of These from Sam's Club.

Do you have an opinion on them?

Thanks!
Ron
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 12, 2014, 11:00:17 am
Barry
   Looked at your link  I'm pricing now,,, ouch,,,,,,, Did you do a tire alignment???

sparky
That is why I am not in any hurry to replace our tires.

Understandably, some members have more wealth then others as reflected in tire replacement and even PC replacement duration.  Some members are on PC #3 in less time than Irene and I with PC #1 & only forever.  We simply don't have the financial resources to replace our rig or even the tires like that.

Don't misunderstand my point.  Irene and I  are so blessed with what we have.  I am not complaining here at all.  It is good to see others enjoying life so abundantly.  They can afford to reduce tire risk like that of which I say "Good For Them".  But for us, I hope to go through one set of tires in the time and/or miles that others go through two sets.  Each owner has their own idea of what is considered safe, and "Low" risk.  Some follow the tire manufacture recommendations and I don't put that down at all.  But for us considering the way we store our lighter weighted rig, I consider my plan to be of "Low" risk.  I would not give it any thought to an Alaska trip with our 7 year old 24,000 mile tires.  But again, that is just me.  I am not advising anyone to follow along.
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 11, 2014, 11:58:13 pm
Now I understand. Thanks Ron.

Smile
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 11, 2014, 04:03:04 pm
My thought about batteries, 12v versus 6V versus 6V-AGM, I am simply stepping off the battery diving board to find out how deep and how warm the water is untested.  I'm setting up my  battery compartment for the taller 6V batteries, choosing AGM for what I hope will be a better experience.  You'll have to ask me in 5 years how I like them.

My reconfiguration is easy to revert back to 12v with slide-out battery tray, bolt-in-bolt-out for both the tray and steel plate 6V box bottom.  All of 5 minutes to switch back from 6V to 12V if I ever want to.

Regarding the donated tires....

Tom, if you saw the tires on work vans that get donated to the charity I volunteer in, you would surely agree that retired PC tires are so much safer.  Some donated vans are so bad that the steel belts have come through the rubber.  Most donated work vans are very tired, some have sat unused for many years out in the elements before being donated to a charity.  I think they are driven into the ground after they get used up to a certain point, then parked when it's past due for tires.

If the charity determines the van is worth selling to the general public, they want to sell a safe vehicle.  It doesn't have to be perfect, just safe & reliable as can be expected under the circumstances and price window.  Decent used motor home tires provides a means for that to work.  If the charity bought new tires along with addressing other issues on a van and sold it for $900, then what was there to gain?  Receiving good used tires from people like us PC owners, helps the charity get reliable work vehicles in the hands of people who can't afford better, and the proceeds help other people in other ways.  It's good for everyone involved.  Even the PC owner gets a tax write-off of some amount.
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 11, 2014, 01:16:04 pm

On the batteries, you might check out AGM batteries for replacement. They are sealed with no servicing required, but considerably more expensive. Can't help you with specific models since I don't know what your OEM batteries are.....

Good luck
Just last night I was working on our battery compartment, fabricating a steel bottom after removing the slide out battery tray to gain enough clearance for a pair of the taller 6V batteries.  Maintenance-free AGMs seems the smarter choice now that the slide-out tray is gone.  I'll be buying the AGMs at Sam's Club at $180/battery.
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Decisions Decisions on: November 10, 2014, 04:24:03 pm
....on average a 2007 2350 with slide would sell for $12,900 more than a 2007 2350 without a slide.

WOW!

I saw that on www.RVT.com

I am so surprised they value a 2007 slide-out with an MSRP of $4130, valued today at $12,900.  As messed up as RVT might be with that one, it is what people read when shopping.  If we ever had to sell our rig, we'd be in jeopardy.  Good thing we plan to own our rig for over 30 years, 23 to go.

I'll have to plug in my rig into NADA and then do it again with a slide-out.


REPORTING BACK Using http://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/Motorhomes with Average Retail Figures

My rig base price is $31,500 adding $4,095 for lower mileage, then adding $15,434 for optional equipment for a total of $51,029
It states my MSRP was $78,983 when in reality is was $89,051.  That's all messed up.

Same rig, same mileage, same options but adding a 6 foot slide-out, adds $1470 for a total of $52,499

I guess that is why NADA and other such value estimators are referred to as "Guidelines".
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tire and battery advice on: November 10, 2014, 01:32:52 pm
If your tires look great with real good thread, check a local charity that takes in vehicles.  They might accept your 4 best tires as a donation to put on a work van that was received with really bad tires.  That is my plan when it comes time.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Decisions Decisions on: November 10, 2014, 01:04:18 pm
FWIW, as stated in our 2007-2350 paperwork, MSRP was $89,051.  Before current-day factory-direct only sales, we bought through a dealer paying $67,205 + $4,368 in sales tax.  After our purchase we added $3900 in suspension upgrades, $430 for a 3rd captain seat, and lesser amounts on piles more that added thousands more.  I would guess we have near $80,000 invested when considering the money we invested to tow our Jeep.

I really don't know what our 2007 2350 with no slide-out would sell for today.  I am not convinced the tiny slide-out offered at that time would make a difference in value and/or marketing if selling today.  I do feel the larger slide-out which includes the fridge is a positive influence.  I also feel the largest slide-out in the new 2351 (also known as the 2450) and the 2552 and bigger models is a sure winner for resale value.

We did special order our rig without a slide-out with no consideration to resale value.  For you who consider resale value "crucial", you really should get a slide-out, even if you don't find it important for yourself.

Again, these are just my thoughts based on resale observations.  I don't have hard data to back up my comments.  I don't claim to be an authority on this.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2013 model 2551 12 volt batteries OK? on: November 07, 2014, 05:12:17 pm
After further review and discussion on a few different forums, I will be purchasing two 6V AGM batteries from Sam's Club for $180 per battery as advertised HERE.  I understand AGM technology is maintenance-free, charge more quickly, and has a longer life cycle compared to standard deep cycle lead acid 6V and 12V batteries.  Time and experience will tell if my information is good.

I will remove my roll-out battery tray and screw down sheet steel for the bottom of the battery box for adequate clearance for the taller batteries.  I will come up with a means to cradle the batteries so they won't move around inside the big box.  It will be nice not doing any maintenance on them.  Just mount them and forget them until they no longer perform.
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