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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Generator decided to start on its own on: Today at 11:21:11 am
Thanks for sharing that Barry-Sue.  Like everyone here is saying, that is surprising.

That very good safety information.  As some of you know, we keep our PC in our garage which is under our bedroom.  If I ever hear a strange noise in the middle of the night, I'll be sure to take it seriously.  Not just go back to sleep.  I do feel the risk of genny self-startup is extremely low given the humidity levels are low in the garage, but still......

For you recent members, this is our situation at home.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions on a PC on: February 10, 2016, 12:14:58 pm
6V batteries are already a lot taller than 12V as I learned when converting to 6V HERE.  In my case the easiest solution was to eliminate the battery tray and install maintenance-free sealed AGM batteries.  That was one of highest ranking changes I made to our 9 year old PC over the years.

Is our rig really 9 years old this coming June?  Wow how time flies.  It seems more like 5 years ago when we were placing our order.
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 10, 2016, 12:06:21 pm
Ron, we asked for delivery in August because we have to be on the farm for milking twice a day until then.  Earl said they would probably start the build in late May.
Ah!
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 09, 2016, 11:50:49 pm
....and Ron - sorry but we did go with the slide out.

 rolling on the floor   rolling on the floor   rolling on the floor   rolling on the floor   rolling on the floor   rolling on the floor    rolling on the floor

Oh my new Polish Prince friend, you most certainly do not need to apologize.  I am so happy you are ordering what you want, not what I like.  I provide my "other" perspective only so that you can make your own best educated decision in weighing the pros and cons to each choice.

You mentioned receiving your rig in August.  Does it now take 1/2 year to get a special order processed?  Or did you intentionally request the rig to be ready in August?  I wonder when the cut-off is to get the rig built on a 2017 chassis.  I think it might be 4 weeks later.....something to think about.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rear View Camara on: February 09, 2016, 09:11:49 am
About the backup camera mismatched connectors between brands....I wonder if adapters or adapter cables are available.

Our 2007 PC has the original Zone Defense backup camera kit.  It lost the sound 3 or 4 years ago.  It was great to hear my wife outside providing verbal instruction along with hand signals.  The unit makes the same old residual noise like it always did with the volume raised but no more sound-pickup from the outside.   I have wondered if bugs plugged the mic hole and it just needs to be cleaned out, but I never could find where the unit picks up the sound.  I then tried getting my answer from Zone Defense but could not reach anyone with an answer.  I also tried Phoenix, but still no answer.

Has anyone had a failure in sound and resolved it?
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions on a PC on: February 08, 2016, 06:19:42 pm
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Best answered by 2551 & 2552 owners (and even for us with our 2350) I've always wondered if the main Fantastic fan would be better utilized in the rear bathroom and have it as your one and only roof-top power vent.
Ron,

   In our newer 2551 we actually have three fans installed - one in the bathroom, a max-air in the bedroom area, and then the fantastic fan in the kitchen area.  We utilize all three and would not do without any of them.  The max-air usually runs all night on a very low speed since it is so quiet.  We use the bathroom fan for moisture control while showering and then the fantastic fan when watching TV or cooking.  Many times we will have both the max-air and fantastic fan on at the same time to draw air through the rig.  We personally use all three fans and one fan in the bathroom area would not work for us.

Sue
Very interesting input Sue.....quite the opposite of what I anticipated.  Thanks for sharing that.

I am under the impression Butch may consider 4 solar panels (one per battery planned) so I was trying to figure out a way how he could work in enough clean space on the roof to accommodate four with the option for more solar panels if he later wanted to add to them.
7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions on a PC on: February 08, 2016, 12:11:31 pm
Hi Butch,

The answer to some of your questions like the different fridge, four batteries, and multi-solar panel, I would call the factory and ask them.  For a massive array of solar panels to support four 6-volt batteries, you might have to relocate roof-top items like the antenna, the Fantastic Fan, maybe even the a/c unit a little to gain enough clean space.  Best answered by 2551 & 2552 owners (and even for us with our 2350) I've always wondered if the main Fantastic fan would be better utilized in the rear bathroom and have it as your one and only roof-top power vent.   With the rig closed up, it seems it would nicely draw outside air in from the front cab, passing through the rig, and out the bathroom where the worst of odors originate.  You might have to add a vent high in the bathroom door to allow air to get through when it's closed.  Then again, maybe a lot of air gets around the closed door.  Just tossing out ideas for you.
8  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Inspect Your Roof, It Might Need A Touch Of Caulk Here And There Like Ours on: February 06, 2016, 09:12:17 pm
Oh boy.....Thanks for the warning.  I will be watching for it.
9  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Inspect Your Roof, It Might Need A Touch Of Caulk Here And There Like Ours on: February 06, 2016, 03:06:01 pm
Good tip butch50  ThumbsUp

Being the original poster here, I did want to emphasis how minor & tiny the cracks were in the original sealant.  All cracks combined, I think I applied 4x the equivalent of toothpaste people put on their tooth brush.  If I had a worse condition, I'd be asking some questions here on how best to handle it.  I feel what little I applied and that I applied it only in hairline-ish cracks of old sealant, I did good, not harm.

Though the original sealant is still very soft, the cracks formed from what I believe to be shrinkage from age.  It surely is not from the elements for our rig is hardly ever outdoors and rarely ever seen temps below freezing.  It is outdoors maybe 4 summertime weeks a year.
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Our Phoenix Cruisers compared to other rigs on: February 04, 2016, 11:22:12 pm
I think it's share prices that drive down quality, not profit per se. Yvon Chouinard, founder and owner of Patagonia Clothing, once said the problem with public companies is that decisions are made for the benefit of the share holders, not the company.
My thoughts exactly.
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Our Phoenix Cruisers compared to other rigs on: February 04, 2016, 10:12:04 am
I totally agree with you Paul about the bottom line profit margin.  When a company answers to investors or stock holders, it's all about profit, not product.  Phoenix is privately owned and run by Kermit.  He has the freedom to improve his product as he sees fit, and do it so everyone is a winner.

For Example......Let's say Kermit finds a better faucet.  Kermit likes the better faucet because it looks better and works better.  He thinks it will add value to his line-up to attract more prospective buyers, and it is simply a good improvement regardless.  The better faucet costs Phoenix $5 more than the current one being installed, and the installation does not require more labor or material.  Kermit will implement the new faucet and add $5 to the price of the motor home.

But when an RV manufacture answers to investors of one kind or another, adding $5 of material is a serious matter because it affects profit.  One of two things happen.  Meetings are called to either nix the idea to maintain profit margins, or add $40 to $50 to the cost of the rig to increase profit margins.  The general formula is material plus labor, then add an over-head multiplier, and finally add another multiplier to come up with a predictable profit.  The bottom line to the consumer is "Less Value".

Unfortunately, many RV manufactures go further to squeeze pennies from their rigs with practices like.....  "How few screws can we get away with and the rig still stays in one piece".  That method of thinking does not make a better product.
12  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Those Two Screws In The Middle Of The Entry Door Threshold on: February 03, 2016, 11:14:22 am
Well I did find bigger stainless screws, tapped bigger threaded holes, and one more PC task checked off.

My focus this winter season has been redirected to converting family VHS & DV recordings to MP4 files that date back to 1983.  I bought Elgato from Walmart for ~$80 and it is working out very nicely with my 2 year old HP Envy laptop, Windows 8.1.  Eight hours of VHS is roughly 37gig.  Elgato is very easy to use and to trim the beginning & end of each recording.
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 31, 2016, 07:56:08 am
Congrats lad07!  Welcome to the family.  We hope you won't be a stranger here with postings. 
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 30, 2016, 11:02:26 pm
Barry-Sue,

I have been meaning to say this for a very long time now.
I really like what you special requested for your old 2551.  The symmetrical (the book-end look) wing wall cabinetry with desks are not the norm....is it?  How well has that been working for you over the years?
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Carrying a kayak on: January 30, 2016, 09:24:59 am
On top of the Honda Fit that we tow.
We don't haul kayaks, but if we did, it would be done like gradygal.... on the roof of our tow vehicle.
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