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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Hose length on: February 20, 2017, 07:19:19 pm
I bought our fresh water hose from a Walmart store in their automotive/RV section.  It is white with a blue pin strip.  The length is whatever they sell.  I also bought from Walmart, a flat hose on a reel, but have yet to use it.  It just takes up space, fortunately not much space.

I don't know why our regular white Walmart hose is not in the picture shrug but it stores on the same hook with the flat wind-up hose.   I must have been using it at the time.  This picture was originally meant to show how I store our camping table.
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What options should I order -- what do you wish you ordered? on: February 20, 2017, 10:05:11 am

I believe the armless awning being referred to are the new ones seen on class B rvs (i.e. Winnebago Fuse or Leisure Travel) that are electric.

..Mike
Hmm, interesting.
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What options should I order -- what do you wish you ordered? on: February 20, 2017, 09:26:07 am
tnedator,

Here are my thoughts with 10 years of experience with our 2350.

Read through my ongoing post HERE on things I have done over the years with our PC.  Maybe some will spark an idea or two for yourself.

About keyless entry for the van doors.  Back in 2007, and maybe applies today, keyless entry is a "Ford" thing and it does not come standard on their E-Series RV-model chassis.  Our 2007 E350 is missing the keyless entry controller.  I once researched what it would take to add one, learning that our chassis is not even wired for a keyless entry controller.  I was not able to determine if the missing wire harness is something I could add myself.  My point to this is, if you want keyless entry, be clear about it right up front because Phoenix may have to special order an E450 chassis with keyless entry rather than use an E450 chassis already stretched on their lot, ready for building.

We have the box awning.  It is very clean looking by comparison to the motorized one, but can't compare to the ease of a push-button electric awning.  I still sit on the fence over my feeling about the two types.

As I feel about our box awning, I decided to delete the rear rack and ladder.  For me, that was the right decision for a very clean body as seen HERE avoiding all the mounting holes and caulk as well as the unsightly tubing all about the rig.  I actually have my rack and ladder in pieces, stored in my house basement, just in-case I ever change my mind.  It has been 10 years now so I think it's time to put them up for sale on Ebay.  With exception to our very first outing in 2007, I have been lucky not to need the ladder on a trip to untangle the PC from a low hanging tree branch.  The rack and ladder increase entanglement anyway.

I wished we had a porch light in the rear and one on the driver side of the rig, controlled on their own shared switch.  It would be very convenient to light the area all around the rig as needed.  Not just when at the camp site, but also when backing into a primitive site at night.  If you avoid hitting just one tree with them, they are so worth it.  No tree bumps yet for us, but we got surprisingly close more than once because of darkness.

This I am not sure about, but is still worth mentioning.  Phoenix might decline some of your electrical requests if you have a slide-out for it may cut off their means to channel 110V wiring along the driver side wall.  Maybe they break their own unwritten code and wire 110V up and over the slide out opening.

Unless there is a parking/storage challenge with the longer 2552, I would surely get that model.....especially if getting a dinette, and even better to have a no-slide dinette so the dinette itself could be made bigger yet.  The leg room, table size, and bed size would all benefit.  The extra relaxing seat behind the passenger seat in the 2552 is important to have with any kind of dinette.

If your plan is to drive a lot throughout your trips as we do, ask Phoenix about the 3-way hot water tank.  The 2-way heats up with propane and 110V.  The 3rd method in the 3-way unit, the coolant from the Ford engine flows through the water heater, making hot water while driving.  We have the 2-way water tank.  I think we would have appreciated the 3-way with our travel style.

One thing I would ask Phoenix about.  Can they add redundant gray and black waste tank valve control switches inside the house.  Like us, your gray tank is the smaller of the two.  You will find the need to blend the tanks once or twice between dumps.  I am considering adding one more pair of gray & black tank valve switches so I don't have to run around outside to blend the tanks which always happens during our shower time.  Needless to say it's the worst possible time to go outside and blend tanks to let the water drain out from the shower pan.

I really don't like having any more holes in our roof than necessary.  (ie: roof rack & ladder).  I had wondered if we could have done just as well with a Fantastic fan in the bathroom and do away with the one just outside the bathroom door.  Two huge holes in the roof so close together (just a couple feet apart) doing the same job, seems redundant to me.  I suppose we'd need a pass-thru grill-vent in the wall.  Or maybe a bathroom door that has a gap at the top to allow air to get past a closed bathroom door.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Intro & order placed for 2552 on: February 19, 2017, 04:20:49 pm
We ordered our PC nearly 10 years ago.  I had decided to wait and see about adding levelers.  We still don't have them, managing okay without them.  I admit there are times (thankfully rare) when I wished we had them.

Does anyone know the safe limit in using PC levelers?  How many inches (front to back difference) can they adjust to be made level on a badly angled parking pad?  I occasionally will see a big class A with the front tires in the air.  Can PC levelers do that, or are they good only for some inches?  How many inches can PC levelers safely raise a PC?
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Intro & order placed for 2552 on: February 19, 2017, 08:10:57 am
Paw Paw, you can still get the levelers installed.  Ask Phoenix where to go.  Their installer would be your best choice since they install them all the time on brand new fully completed Phoenix Cruisers.
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Check your macerator pump on: February 17, 2017, 06:20:03 pm
Thanks for sharing that Paul.

Our 10 year old PC with macerator pump is supported by Phoenix's original method using generic perforated strapping (pictured below).  The installation never looked impressive so one day I set out to make a clean "U-Strap" just like the ones Phoenix has been using for a number of years since.  It didn't take long for me to leave well enough alone because significant upward stress had that connection you mentioned, leaking.  I did check the 4 bayonets and they were all good, none had cracked.  The generic perforated strapping is flexible, providing just the right amount of support in all directions.  And maybe it provides just the right amount of "Give" on bumpy roads.  It is working so well right now, it's hard to bring myself to mess with it just so it looks better.

With 3 of the 4 bayonets broken on yours, maybe the "U" strap is too tight for bumpy roads.  Consider adding some washers between strap and RV to relieve the upward pressure and add thin foam weather stripping as a cushion between the pump and strap to allow for some limited movement on bumpy roads.  Maybe that will resolve your breakage, and maybe quiet-down the pump too.

7  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 15, 2017, 08:09:43 pm
If you own a 2011 or 2012 PC Sprinter, it could be built on a 2010 Sprinter chassis.  If that be your situation, you might lack the spare because of how Phoenix bought those Sprinters at a bankruptcy auction.  Maybe some lacked a spare tire.
8  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 15, 2017, 07:11:09 pm
Thank you, Ron, so much for your helpful information.  I'll start looking for a used one first.
Gail
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9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: February 15, 2017, 02:00:10 pm
Hi Gail and Joe (Gail43),

Welcome to the PC family of owners!

Regarding your Sprinter spare tire.

The spare tire is "optional" at the time the RV manufacture purchases the chassis from Ford or Mercedes.  Your PC might have had a spare tire when purchased brand new, or the spare might not have ever existed.  Phoenix will not have extra spare tires & wheels for purchase, but it never hurts to ask them anyways.  You will need to buy one direct from Mercedes, or second hand from places like junkyards, Ebay, Craigslist and even RV forums.  You might also try an internet store like Tire Rack.  The spare tire is a real tire and wheel, identical to the other six on your PC.  It is not a temporary spare as is common with typical vehicles.  The wheels are mounted in either direction depending on whether you are mounting it on the front axle or in either position on the rear axle.
10  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Please Participate ONLY If You Have Ultra Leather Damage on: February 14, 2017, 08:13:49 pm
Thanks CKK
11  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Please Participate ONLY If You Have Ultra Leather Damage on: February 14, 2017, 05:03:22 pm
Given that I am the person who started this poll, I wonder if everyone else has the button called "View Results" to see how the poll is progressing.

Do you all have that button to see the progress?
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flaking Vinyl on: February 14, 2017, 09:18:01 am
I think ultra leather from the 2010-2012 era and perhaps other years might be a weak spot in Phoenix's otherwise stellar reputation.
I started a pole in the "Poles" section to collect the data on people experiencing the ultra-leather disintegration.
13  Main Forum / Polls / Please Participate ONLY If You Have Ultra Leather Damage on: February 14, 2017, 09:15:06 am
This pole will NOT expire.

Please participate only if your ultra-leather seating surfaces are cracking or flaking away for any reason.  If your leather-like seats are fine or wearing naturally, please do NOT participate.

As PC owners with the problem respond, we all will get a good idea as to when the problem occurred, and if the problem has been resolved by Paul's Seating, the supplier of seats to Phoenix.

Ron Dittmer
14  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Converting From Two 12V Batteries To Two 6V Batteries on: February 13, 2017, 12:44:31 pm
With just one 12V house battery in an easy-inspect roll-out tray, I think the cost for an AGM is not worth the expense.  As well, I am not convinced that if you have two 12V house batteries, the cost for AGMs is worth it.  To me, the AGMs are ideal when you can't easily check fluid levels like I now have with my current 6V conversion.

My experience with two 12Vs is that they drain out of sync with each other.  One drains much faster than the other, then boil-overs happen when charging.  With all that going wrong, your power reserves suffer, and battery life suffers too.  I am no expert, but that has been my experience with two pairs of 12V batteries, and one pair of 6Vs.

I look at it this way.  Every battery operated toy, flashlight, or other electronic devise using rechargeable or disposable batteries, the maker stacks the batteries (in series) like the two 6Vs are in my PC for "best energy utilization".  With 6V AGMs, I surely don't have any boil-overs.  I wonder if PC owners with wet acid 6V batteries deal with boil-overs.

Oh, I forgot about the cigarette lighter plug-in volt meter.  I bought mine on Ebay for a couple dollars.  They come in many different color read-outs.  I bought green to match my dashboard color.  HERE is a blue/red for $1.83 with free shipping.

HERE is my green one for $5.35 with free shipping.  Buy two, plug one in the dash up front, the other in your 12V socket to the right of your main TV and you're all set.
15  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Michelin Tires Video on: February 12, 2017, 07:36:11 pm
Thank You Mike/PAX for sharing the link.  It was quite interesting.

Unless I missed it, there was no mention that tires need replacing after a certain age.  Replacement of tires exclusively involved their physical condition.  Therefore I feel our perfect condition 10 year old Michelin tires are still good to use.

Funny, they mentioned how the front tires can get worn unevenly, "feathered edges", due to wheel alignment issues.  I have some front tire thread feathered edges as he described, but I feel it is caused by strong & consistent side winds for days at a time driving across the Great Plains, having my steering wheel pointed to the left or right pending the direction of the consistent blast of air to keep the rig going straight.
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