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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I ordered a new PC but I still have one question on: April 27, 2016, 01:02:57 am

I love your selection, especially the 2351 with bigger galley.  That gives you more counter space and more drawer storage.  The only thing I would consider adding is a 3rd patio light on the driver side, on it's own switch by the entry door.  If camping in remote places, you will appreciate 270 degrees of campsite lighting.  It is also useful when backing into a campsite late at night.

Just so you know, your dinette would have been about 8" bigger if you delete the slide out.  That is 8" of additional leg room, 8" more table, and an 8" longer bed when made up so.  8" might even be on the conservative side.  It could be even more.  If you delete the slide out but kept the dinette the same size, you might have room for a pantry between the fridge and dinette.

2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: power to TV and DVD Player on: April 26, 2016, 12:27:02 am
Gail has it right.  Check the 110V circuit breakers and the GFI outlet in the bathroom.   I believe there is only one GFI outlet in a 2007 2100 and it is in the bathroom.  I would flip every 110V breaker off and on again to make sure they are in good order.  I would also hit the red and black buttons on the GFI outlet to test it.  A "tripped" GFI always confuses me which is on and which is off.  I use the trial and error method.

Let us know what you find.
3  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: questions to ask during walk-through of new PC on: April 26, 2016, 12:24:31 am
Video every bit of the walk-through. Most importantly video demonstration/explanation of how everything works. It makes it take longer but I have referred to those videos so many times. While all have proved useful, most valuable is the one on how to winterize. Every fall I watch it again to figure out all the valve switches.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: questions to ask during walk-through of new PC on: April 25, 2016, 11:42:33 am
The "general" recommendation is to spend one night at the local RV park that the factory suggests, this to shake down and try out everything.  Anything in question, just drive back to the factory the next work day to get them resolved.  You don't want to pick up your rig on a Friday and stay overnight because the factory is closed Saturday & Sunday.  You'll have to hang around til Monday.

As far as the inspection & walk-through is concerned, it's been 9 years for me.  Phoenix did a very thorough job back then.  The trouble for me was that it was my first self contained RV.  I was over-whelmed by all the information.  I drove the rig home that day and spent a lot of time at home figuring it out all over again.  It would have been better to stay overnight in the area RV park to fumble through things, then return to the factory the next day to ask "smarter & experienced" questions along with presenting anything discovered that is not up to par.  Coming back to the factory mid-week gives them more time to resolve any big issues before you drive back home.
5  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: House battery's on: April 24, 2016, 11:22:45 am
I am always learning something new with the current-day PC.

It is surely a much better arrangement to turn on the inverter ONLY when needing inverted power.  Not for any other reason.  That is ideal.

With a separate converter, I wonder how it's output compares to the step-down 40 amp external charger I use.  I would love to have my external charger built-in like that.

It is so good to read that Phoenix has done better going to the Xantrax setup.  All these years I had wondered why they switched from a 2000 watt Tripp-Lite to an 1800 watt Xantrax.  It finally makes sense in my head.  A separate inverter and converter is the way to go for operational simplicity and improved battery care.

Thanks Barry for that revelation.

6  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: House battery's on: April 24, 2016, 09:11:19 am
2 frazzled John, Are you saying the Xantrax is only an inverter, not also a converter?  Do all PCS with the Xantrax, have a separate converter?
7  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Dvd player won't turn on on: April 23, 2016, 02:02:04 pm
Barb, Did you get a chance to open the unit?
8  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: House battery's on: April 23, 2016, 01:24:28 pm
I agree with Tom.

My wife and I practice certain rules regarding the inverter.  We turn it on to charge the batteries when on shore power and when we want low wattage 110v power.  Otherwise it is always turned off because being on doing nothing consumes more battery power than you realize.  Especially our older Tripp-Lite model.  I assume the later (current-day) Xantrax has an appetite of it's own.  Regardless of the inverter, it's okay to leave it on all the time as long as you plug-in at least every-other night.  Because of the places we travel to, we never have the privilege of shore power.  So we follow that practice.

When we are camped for multiple days (motor home not driven) without shore power, we charge the batteries via the generator.  Idling the Ford V10 would do it too, but much less efficiently.  It's works good if the chassis a/c or heater is desperately needed as well.  To keep the generator run times shorter, I use a different battery charger for faster charging.  I plug into the outside outlet and hook it up to the batteries directly.  It's no big deal.  I got into much better detail about all this HERE.
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question About Toad Hookup on: April 23, 2016, 01:06:42 pm

One benefit to adding a riser is that it will increase the distance between the two vehicles, beneficial when cutting tight turns.

I experimented first without the riser, later with the riser.  In a parking lot, I cut the motor home as sharp as it would go and did a donut to see whether there would be any concern of the two vehicles making contact.  Without the riser, it was "scary" close.  With the riser, it was comfortable.

One more consideration is the motor home when loaded up on a trip.  Having a tank full of fuel & fresh water, gear, food, etc. all combined will influence the height of the rear hitch.  You won't need to actually load the motor home, but rather consider it will drop 1-1.5" when determining the offset hitch adapter.  So if it's a little high on the motor home side, you should be good.  If it's a little low on the motor home side, it will be lower yet when on a trip.  So I advise to error on the "high" side, assuming your rig is empty when measuring.

Before towing our Liberty, we towed a little Toyota MR2 Spyder.  By shear luck, the bar happened to be level.  We never had any "bucking" action, so it had me wondering what the heck was gong on with the Liberty.  Without the riser, the Spyder was closer to the motor home, but because of it's curved front bumper style, there was a lot of clearance between vehicles to do donuts.  That Spyder was a very friendly tow vehicle.  It was great on paved surfaces but not so much going through dry river beds...hence the Liberty 4x4.
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Question About Toad Hookup on: April 23, 2016, 08:47:01 am
Is this going to be a problem?

Hi Joey,

"Yes" you have a condition you need to address.  Rather than explaining it here, read through my post with pictures HERE.

11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A couple of hot water heater questions on: April 21, 2016, 08:59:48 am
Affordable enough.  I'll give it some thought.

12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A couple of hot water heater questions on: April 19, 2016, 11:42:15 pm

What was the cost?
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 110 Volt Power Questions on: April 19, 2016, 11:34:50 pm
In our 2552 the inverter does not supply 110v to the outlets behind the driver's and passenger seats.  The generator does.
The inverter appears to supply 110v to almost all of the other outlets, excluding the microwave oven.
In our 2007-2350-NoSlide, the inverter does not supply 110v power to the outlet under the dinette table.  All other "accessible" outlets get inverted power.  I wished that one outlet did get inverted power for our laptop power supply.  We sit at the table with laptop all the time and have the cord plugged across the isle to get power.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 110 Volt Power Questions on: April 19, 2016, 03:58:38 pm
You ask an interesting question Fred.

Yes, every PC made in the past 10-12 years has a power transfer switch.  It is a gray electrical box, maybe 8" x 8" x 3" tall, typically located in the house, just above the generator.  At least that is where ours is, inside our no-slide front dinette bench seat.

Now you have me scratching my head too......When on pole-power or generator-power, the outlets inside get their power from those two sources via that power transfer switch.  But how 110v from the inverter is disabled, I don't know.  Maybe it's all common, 110v coming from the power transfer switch being back-fed into the 110v output of the inverter.

ADDING:  Oh, I see Barry has an explanation.  He beat my reply by seconds.  So the inverter has the smarts to shut down it's on 110v generation when being supplied by another source.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Batteries - AGM, LFP, and Flooded Cell on: April 19, 2016, 03:49:09 pm

Please PM me with the address where you PC is located so I can fly out from O'Hare, steal the battery while you are sleeping, ship the battery home from your local UPS store, then fly back home.  When you PM me, I would also appreciate the location of your nearest UPS store.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

In all seriousness, it is quite interesting to read how battery technology is coming along.  What costs $4000 today will cost $400 once they figure out how to manufacture them cheap enough to be competitive.  Electric cars will be the #1 benefactor.
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