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1  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got our 2012 PC 2400 Sprinter on: December 09, 2016, 06:14:26 pm
Congratulations!
2  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: December 08, 2016, 09:33:25 pm
Hi All,

I picked up the $23 internet-ordered vent cover from Walmart.  Just as Barry-Sue says, it's about 2 inches lower than the A/C cover, so there are no worries about clearing our tight clearance garage door opening.  Thanks again Barry-Sue for that information.  Now I wonder if I should get a second one for the bathroom vent.

Ron



3  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Maxxair vs Fantastic vent fans on: December 06, 2016, 12:18:01 pm
I agree with you Patricia.  Still I just ordered a generic cover from Walmart for $23.  I figure in our case being in a garage most of the time, the cover should last a long time.

I wonder if owners painted their cheap plastic covers, if that would protect from UV and last a lot longer.....especially for those expensively priced, but cheap plastic A/C replacement covers.  The paint might have to be a darker color to block the UV rays.
4  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: December 06, 2016, 12:00:14 pm
That sounds fairly manageable to me.  If you are uncomfortable in trying it, first take an extra long nail or long fine screwdriver to pierce through the Styro-foam until you hit something hard which would be the beam, then accommodate the hollow square beam by adding 2" to the drill bit.  That would tell you how long of a drill bit you will need.  I assume you would need to go through just one beam to get to the adjacent ceiling light for power.  A 1/4" dia. drill should be big enough.  If you decide to take the next step and drill, as best you can drill in the center of the foam thickness and drill horizontally, not at angle, and you will do fine.  Once drilled, use a straight coat hanger to continue pushing through the foam on the other side of the beam to reach the area of the light fixture.

Keep in-mind that I have not actually done it myself.  It's what I imagine is required.
5  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Soft spot for strays? on: December 06, 2016, 10:36:03 am
Hi 2HIAC,

Keep in-mind that most or all 2010 PCs on Sprinters are built on a 2008 Sprinter chassis and were sold to the general public at the same price as the 2010 Ford E350.  So "theoretically" you should pay that much less for a 2010 PC Sprinter model 2350 or 2400.  The indicator is to ask for the model year of the Sprinter chassis.  This might not be much of an argument when working with a dealership, but who knows, maybe it is.  If working a deal with the original owner, you are that much smarter about the price he actually paid.

I don't know the differences between a 2008 and a 2010 Sprinter chassis.  I would research it to determine if the differences mean anything to you.  If I was considering a 2010 PC Sprinter built on a 2008 chassis, it wouldn't bother me one bit, though I would hope to make a better deal because of it.  If you know me at all, I am a bargain hunter.

Ron Dittmer
6  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dometic Thermostat on: December 04, 2016, 04:37:21 pm
Sandy,
I know you are trying to sort out why the heating elements in your AC do not work but we found out in a previous camper a portable electric heater is capable of putting out the same amount of heat as the AC heating coils.  The small portable heaters are typically much quieter and allow you to move the heat to where you need it most.  These are relatively cheap and available from many sources including Walmart.
I totally agree.  Heat from below, placed in front of where the cold comes in from worst which is the cab area, does a much better job and so quietly too.

Still, it would be nice to have the roof heater working, assuming you have one.  If you don't have one, I don't think you are missing much at all.  As I recall, our heat strip was optional.  Back in 2007, I think we paid extra for it, but it might have been part of the "Premium Convenience Package" back then.
7  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Does Your A/C Unit Run Exceptionally Noisy? If So, Read This on: December 04, 2016, 04:19:54 pm
Patricia,

Your A/C unit comments had me laughing out loud.  I figured someone would chine in and say something like you did.  But I didn't expect it to be so entertaining.  When my brother told me about his, I wondered how loud his was before, because like yourself I too find it ridiculously loud when it is mounted properly.

My brother has an Onan 3000 in his little 21' rig and he just bought a 1000 watt Honda so he can watch TV in peace and quiet.  I think every motor home with an Onan and roof A/C should also include one of these mounted on the wall.


And a Very Merry Christmas to you too!
8  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Does Your A/C Unit Run Exceptionally Noisy? If So, Read This on: December 04, 2016, 10:03:24 am
Hi Everyone,

Given most people here on the PC forum own newer PCs, this likely won't apply, but it could for us with older roof-top A/C units.

My brother had his old 1998 Starflyte motor home serviced to get his A/C top cover replaced.  UV damage was so bad that it broke off and shattered on the ground, fortunately while parked.  He asked the service guy if anything could be done to reduce the A/C noise.  The guy said he'd look it over.  It turned out that over the years, the hardware that holds down the A/C unit worked themselves loose.  Between the gasket shrinking some amount with age, and the mounting hardware working loose, his A/C unit vibrated excessively up there.  My brother said the noise reduction is dramatic.  He was surprised to learn of how loose the unit was, especially since he had no water coming in.  Funny that my brother thinks the A/C unit was loose the day he bought the RV used some years ago.

So if your older A/C unit runs louder than a new one, tighten up the mounting hardware.  It might solve your problem.  It might also reduce the potential of water infiltration.

Ron Dittmer
9  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 03, 2016, 03:10:53 pm
Has anyone here ever performed this experiment?  With your spouse driving your PC on a smooth interstate highway, lay on your back on the floor with your head resting right over the rear axle.

I did that to get a better feel for road vibration being transferred to the motor home through the rear suspension.  Of coarse the results can vary depending on how much air (or extra air) you put into your rear tires.  In our case, I feel "tires-on-road" with the back of my head on the vinyl floor.  I wonder if the Sulastic Shackles I previously mentioned would remove most of it.  If that vibration could be stifled, maybe our house & contents would enjoy the ride much better.
10  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 08:55:07 pm
We have a 2400. Almost anyone we consulted with about the effects on ride height and ride quality recommended adding one or more leafs to the rear spring set instead of air bags. We had a suspension shop add at a leaf to each side four years ago. We have been very happy with the ride and extra 1.5 in of ride height. It was a relatively cheap and simple solution. There was no noticeable effect on handling.
I like that idea.....a lot!
11  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 07:18:38 pm
From your comment, the Kelderman system sounds like a hybrid utilizing both leaf springs & air bags within the same system.  I don't know what to think about that.

Someone on another RV forum brought Sulastic Shackles to my attention.  Watch the video on that website.  I really like their simplistic method for reducing road vibration & jolting but wonder how well they really work for motor homes.  I also wonder how well they hold up to the weight of a motor home over the years.  $400 is a bit much for me to perform a multi-year experiment.  I would be willing to try a free pair and report to you all how effective they are  Smile

Anyone from Sulastic reading this?  Smile Smile Smile
12  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Better ride adding air bags on: December 01, 2016, 05:13:44 pm
Hi randallandchris,

Here are my thoughts and experience.

Adding the Firestone style of air bags to the stock suspension will toughen the suspension, making the ride rougher.  I say this from my experience with "added" air bags in our first motor home.  Because that rig had no rear stabilizer bar of any kind and no such bar available, the air bags were used to improve stability.  Putting in lots of air for best stability, the rear lifted 3" and the ride was very rough.  So I would add more air only when conditions called for it.  Otherwise I kept the minimum in for a softer ride.  I was able to adjust it while driving.

"Replacing" the rear leaf spring suspension with a full air ride suspension is designed to improve the quality of the ride, making it more comfortable.  The problem with these types of suspensions is that if there is a failure with an air leak of any kind, the vehicle is incapacitated.

Where I volunteer as a mechanic, our church receives donated hotel shuttle buses with full air ride suspension failures.  When I see one, I always think...."Not For Me".  I much prefer the bullet-proof reliability of the stock leaf spring suspension.
13  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Outside electric outlet on: November 30, 2016, 11:38:03 pm
We highly recommend the 2100....  Fits anywhere and perfect for two people.  Our 2100 is the no slide version with a hatch for access to the storage under the fold-out sofa.  The outside outlet is conveniently located just forward of the entry door.
Hi Captain Al,

Do you have any interior pictures of your no-slide 2100?  I am very curious about your sleeping arrangements for two adults.  Please setup the interior for sleeping and take a picture.  No need for bedding.  I simply wonder how it works.  I keep trying to get my sister and her husband into a 2100, and I think they are no-slide people like me.
14  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vent Fan on: November 29, 2016, 10:57:58 am
Ron

Got my tall ladder out and climbed on the roof.  Here are the measurements:  Height of AC - 11 inches above the roof.  Height of Vent cover - 9 inches above the roof.  I think the discrepancy between the 7 inches and 9 inches is that the base of the vent cover is 7 inches and then the removable cover adds 2 more inches.  I would call it 9 inches for our purpose.

Thank you so much for the measurements.  2" below the height of the Duo-Therm is perfect!  I am putting this one on my To-Do list this winter.  Like you, I worry about leaving the vent open when out for the day, and also desire to resolve the clunking lid in windy conditions.  But our biggest benefit will be when Irene is cooking up a storm during a rain storm, we'd like to open the Fantastic Fan to blast out the smoke, but can't because the rain comes in.  Her Greek cooking is just too much for the range hood vent to handle at particular moments.

We can't beat the price for the benefits received.
15  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Recliner Damage on: November 29, 2016, 10:04:03 am
Sorry to say I am now posting because we have this problem in our 2013 2100.
I am sorry to read about it Gail.  I hope you and everyone else here with the problem gets this resolved permanently and are able to share the financial burden of it all.  Given you are 3 years beyond the warranty period, it seems to be asking too much for Paul's or Phoenix to pay 100%.  If all three parties pitched in a third, that would make it right by me.  To avoid a repeat, I would consider real top grain leather or cloth for the replacements.  Whatever everyone's decision, NEVER NEVER NEVER get bonded leather for you are guaranteed a repeat.

You can't trust anything coming from China these days.  What frightens me most are their food exports.  They are a huge supplier of organics since they don't practice non-organic farming.  I worry about what they are not disclosing.
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