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1411  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rust below outside door hinge on: August 28, 2011, 07:32:05 pm
On my old motor home with only the gel-coat finish, it developed rust stains around hardware that eventually could not be 100% removed.  But at that elderly in it's 20's, I no longer was a perfectionist.

A polishing compound like mentioned above worked best, though I never did try CLR.  That might have done better.  It makes sense to use on gel coat, but not painted surfaces as it might etch the paint.
1412  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: August 24, 2011, 09:14:05 pm
Hi Vicki & Jack,


Any questions, concerns, we share everything here, not just the great stuff.  But we try real hard to be kind when issues pop up.  Phoenix USA takes really good care of the people who bought their creations, and we appreciate it so very much.  So if something concerns you, this is a good place to start.  Just ask your question.

A number of us have some interesting add-ons and modifications too.  So if you wonder....if only.....just ask.  Maybe someone here has done something about it already.

See you around!
1413  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Colors on: August 24, 2011, 02:07:47 pm
I hate to be a party-pooper here, but I do not like the sunlit exterior color.  Specifically the creme color base.  If I were special ordering a 2012 sunlit, I would also special order a darker base color in metalic, something similar to the full body dusk.

All 2012 Interiors look great!  ThumbsUp
1414  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electric sofa/bed question on: August 22, 2011, 02:59:05 am
I never could understand how regular use of an air bed would have any kind of reliability.  If Phoenix is shipping you a new air mattress, maybe you could discuss a trade-up for the new 2012 couch bed combo with memory foam.  It looks like you have a chance of getting it to fit through the main entry door.  But if not, maybe through the front passenger door with seat and engine cover removed.

1415  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: S&S RV Service in Gettysburg, Pa. on: August 19, 2011, 01:51:26 pm
I have the red Koni-RV adjustable shocks and they seem to work just fine.  Since they were part of a larger over-all suspension upgrade, I cannot provide a direct comparison to the original Ford shocks.

They are set to the highest/stiffest setting on my E350 chassis as recommended per the suspension shop.
1416  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: My first post - Hi everybody on: August 17, 2011, 05:10:00 pm
Hi rlamb,


If you ever want an ear full on how to improve your rig's handling, just ask.  But a lot has already been discussed a number of times over so if you dare, try searching the Phoenix Cruiser forum along with other general RVing forums.

Ron Dittmer
1417  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 17, 2011, 03:55:06 pm
I did not mean to imply that it is fine to leave the "electric" hot water heater switch on all the time while plugged in.  Only that if you forget to turn it off during setup, you do have an undefined "grace" period.
1418  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 17, 2011, 12:27:25 pm
If you run the electric water heater without water in the tank, you will burn out the heating element faster than you can read this post.
Actually the hot water heater still holds about 1/2 gallon of water after it is completely drained.

My water heater stopped working off 110v a couple years back.  I first made sure the tank was drained.  When I unscrewed the 110V heating element, the water kept coming and coming.  Many towels were not enough.  I called the water tank manufacture to order a new element.  The fellow confirmed the tank permanently holds 1/2 gallon of water after it is completely drained, intentionally so to protect the heating element from accidental burn-out.  I asked about concern of freezing and he said that was considered in the design of the tank.

If you need to replace your 110v heating element, stuff as many towels as you can under it, and all around on the floor, because once the element comes out, the wave of water comes and comes and comes.  I thought I had plenty of absorbsion but underestimated.  I ended up blowing a fan in that cabinet for a week to assure all was completely dry.
1419  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 16, 2011, 05:13:27 pm
It sounds like everything you experienced could have been avoided with improved factory assembly, a "workmanship" problem more than anything else.  Sorry to hear about that.  Hopefully the factory learned from it and will pay closer attention from now on.  It seems, either the filler door was mounted to low on the outside of the RV, or the inlet hole on the water tank was drilled too high.  Or, maybe I am out in left field on this one.
1420  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Putting Up Awning While In A Real Bad Storm on: August 13, 2011, 07:07:15 pm
We have the older style manual box awning system, not the newer electric type.

Last weekend while we were wrapping up our stay in Dune Lake, MI, a storm came in like a hurricane.  We had a lot of things setup under the awning and raced to get it all put away, but not before the winds got extreme.    I retracted the side poles so the awning was low at a 45 degree angle to block the rain.  My son ended up holding it down as we were not sure the poles would be enough with the wind.  Evenually we got everything inside and I quickly cranked up the awning in the pouring rain and wild wind.

Today/Saturday, 6 days later, I thought I would open the awning and dry it out.  To my surprise, there were small sticks and leaf clumps rolled up with the awning.  They nearly damaged the canopy.  They dimpled the material in numerous places, but today's sun helped level out the material.  I sprayed bleach on the stains that came from the debris, but only some stains were removed.

Lesson learned:  Be sure all debris is off the awning prior to rolling up.  Even if done while in the worst of conditions.

Another notation.  Because of the conditions while rolling up the awning last week, the awning didn't roll up evenly.  The leading edge didn't close all the way, sticking out maybe 1.5" out from the box.  To correct the misalignment, we unrolled the entire awning, then carefully rolled it up evenly, and the awning once again closed complete & even with a tight seal to the box.
1421  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 12:48:20 pm
When it comes to owning a motor home, if you are not "handy", you are in big trouble because motor homes require a lot of hands-on attention.  Especially in the beginning when new, and then later after it has seen significant use.
1422  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 10:48:05 am
If you have access to compressed air, as others mentioned, try to blow air into the vent tube and also into the drain tube.  If you notice an immediate improvement, that means you blew out an obstruction.  If it returns, it means the obstruction found it's way back.  It could even be a piece of plastic that never completely broke away when the hole was drilled.  It could be hanging inside the tank right at the hole.  It could be flopping around, immediately returning to obstruct the hole.

Such little irritations do occur with most motor homes, Phoenix Cruisers and all the other brands.  Once we get past them, we generally do fine.  Sometimes we will look at what went wrong and say......."Come on guys.  It's not hard to do this right."  That's the price for non-automation, "hand crafted" products.  Still, a lot comes down to engineering & design, manufacturing processes, training, inspecting, and every worker taking great pride in their work.  Phoenix USA does much better than most, but obviously not so good when it comes to the fresh water tank that many here have similar stories with it.
1423  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tow bar alighnment on: August 08, 2011, 09:04:51 am

We tried to tow for the first time using the 6" riser.  I quickly learned the safety tow cables were too short, so we towed without the riser for this past weekend trip.  I need another foot in the cable length, so now I need to order two longer cables.  All the rest accomodated the extra bar length.

The spending never seems to end, and my 401k does not know which way is up.  I am doomed to work til I drop dead.

BTW:  I used the one anti-rattle hitch u-bolt thingy called "Quiet Hitch" and it made a huge improvement.  Thanks for the tip bobander.
1424  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Grant Grove, Kings Canyon Nat'l Park on: August 08, 2011, 08:50:25 am
I love Sequoia NP.  It's time for another visit as it has been maybe 16 years.  Yosemite too.

Nice pics there Billy!  Thanks for sharing.
1425  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 08:45:50 am
I must have gotten lucky with mine as I can fill the tank with the hose full blast.  The drain valve also goes as fast as the diameter of the tube permits.  The water cooler style valve for the drain must be perfectly positioned for fast draining.  Any amount off-center, and it slows down a lot.

Interesting about the mold in the vent tube getting brought up.  We all need to be real good about bleaching our plumbing.  Especially with the hot & humid weather.

I've had my PC outside this summer while our college son is home for the summer, mudding and painting the inside of the garage, painting it white, for minimum wage as he could not find part time employment.  With the PC out all summer, inside the fridge, even with the fridge doors open a bit, a little mold formed on the aluminum fins, and little specs about the fridge interior.  It has me wondering what else is going on that I don't see.

I now have the PC parked close to the garage where it can be plugged in all the time.  I set the roof a/c to kick on when it gets real hot inside to remove moisture.  All windows and vents sealed tight.  All interior cabinet and bath doors and fridge are wide open too.  Dinette bench cushions placed to ventilate the bench storage.  It looks like the place is haunted.   LOL  I can once again smell the leather.   Heart Shower
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