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1426  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Right Mirror on: May 03, 2014, 07:40:49 am
For visual reference, my 2007 PC shown here has the longer mirror arms.
1427  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Even the critters want a Phoenix on: May 02, 2014, 02:00:56 am
Very cute story!  Thanks for sharing it with us.
1428  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Minnesota/North Dakota on: May 02, 2014, 01:56:47 am
Last year we got stuck in Glacier NP.  It is very hard to leave there when the weather is great.  We loved it so much that we nearly quadrupled our planned time there and blew off other planned destinations.  That is why we go everywhere without reservations.
1429  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Right Mirror on: May 02, 2014, 01:50:05 am
I was able to simply grab the mirror housing and with a little encouragement, move it to get a better view.  Then like Barry says, fine tune with the controls inside.

But, the only way the extend the arms is to replace them with longer ones.
1430  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Does your Phoenix Cruiser have a slide out? on: April 29, 2014, 10:40:20 am
Yep, Sue has it right.

I started a pole on Helpful Ratings and I recall it being painless.

Tom, you might want to consider starting a new thread and then deleting this one.
1431  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: ALASKA in May??? on: April 29, 2014, 10:39:14 am
I am jealous!  Being a working man, an extended trip to Alaska in our PC is only a dream.
1432  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replacement Backup Monitors on: April 29, 2014, 10:32:03 am
On the subject indirectly, Our 2007 has it's original Zone Defense system.  Our model has the "sound" feature but the last few times I tried using the sound, it gives the familiar residual noise when the volume is up, but I cannot hear real-world sounds.  I figured the microphone opening in the camera got dirty or maybe a tiny spider moved inside it, but I never could find the tiny microphone hole.  Does anyone know exactly where it is?  I really appreciate Irene's instruction through the obstacle-ridden primitive campsites we often utilize.

BTW:  We have the 5" monitor.  If it fails, I too would consider the bigger 7" monitor.  The 5" has been fine, but the 7" would be nicer.
1433  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Screen door protection on: April 28, 2014, 04:23:45 pm
Very interesting ideas  for you with pets.....and you with kids or grand kids.
1434  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Does your Phoenix Cruiser have a slide out? on: April 28, 2014, 04:15:02 pm
No surprise with Ron, right?
Like BGolden, I too would like a 2450 but it ain't gonna happen.  This 2350 baby of ours has gotta last us.

Tom, You could set this up to do the "Pool Clicky Thing" so it tallies up the votes for you.  You want all to see at a glance that there is only one vote for a no-slide.   LOL
1435  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Drivers Side Propane Connection? on: April 28, 2014, 03:50:59 pm
I realize this is not addressing the question, but rather an alternative.

We favor grilling on a picnic table away from the motor home as the flames or even just the heat can get a bit intimidating on occasion, especially if windy.  The smoke is much less an issue too with an open rig.

We bought a Coleman Roadtrip grill and later the carry case.  The grill stores nicely inside our outdoor under-bed storage compartment.  It's not fancy, but not so basic either.  It is well constructed with very stable legs, a porcelain finish cover, alloy cast base, a cast iron grate, stainless oval burner, a drawer-style drip pan and fairly even cooking.  It is light weight too.  Also important..... cost was not 3 digits like nice ones often are.  Both can still be bought On-Line.

Coleman Roadtrip Grill
Sold today On-Line for $90 with free shipping and no tax HERE

The storage bag at Home Depot for $30 On-Line, Store-Pickup HERE
1436  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 27, 2014, 08:16:08 am
Tom makes the point that the majority of owners do.  And it is a very good point.  I stand with only a few in our no-slide corner.

There are a few ways of looking at this.  Unlike Irene and me, most people have funds to change rigs as needed or as desired,  Some here bought their first PC after us in 2007 and are now on their 2nd or 3rd PC.  They are blessed to be able to change to what suits them best at the time.  They will never see issues with a slide-out when changing rigs more often than we will.

Irene and I bought our PC with a 30 year ownership plan in-mind.  Generally speaking, a slide-out will have it's issues during that long a period.  Even if not mechanically, but surely with gaskets and seals.  I would expect severe trouble somewhere along the way, forcing us to dump the rig before we are ready to give up our motor home due to our own age.  Of coarse there is no guarantee it would force a premature sale.  We just didn't in-part want to have such concern over that when the extra floor space didn't mean anything to us in the first place.

We also do spend a lot of our time traveling, nights in Walmarts and rest areas.  In those places, it is not recommended to pull out the slide out for risk of another vehicle hitting it.

There are benefits/advantages for both arguments.  Most people pile up on the Yes-side of the line.  Sometimes I feel like I am all alone when stating that we love our no-slide.
1437  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 26, 2014, 11:14:53 pm
...getting no slide
...believe in keeping things simple
...getting dinette/convertible to sleeper
...getting the slide out pantry between the stove and the bed

Since it has no slide, that means there is some extra room on the dinette side, since the 2450 that PC has on the website has a slide dinette and if you take out those slide walls, there will be some extra space.  I'm hoping they will build me a broom closet between the dinette and the frig--similar to the slide out pantry but no slide out--where I can store long items like a broom, sweeper, maybe a guitar.

Oh, and double wide drawers with no cutting board in the galley


You and I are on the same page.  I love your thinking.

I think you are right about gaining space on the driver side.  You may get a second pantry-like cabinet or maybe you could opt for a much bigger main closet from your no-side dinette configuration.  Since you will be full timing, I wonder if a bigger closet would be more useful.  You already gain nice size over-the-dinette cabinets, which is a lot more than others get with a slide-out.  If you don't plan to hang much in the closet, you could ask for cubbies in the extra closet space for folded clothes or other supplies.  I bet you would gain more storage that way compared to a separate pantry-like cabinet.

Since you are not getting a slide-out, make sure your furnace will be mounted under the main closet or fridge like mine.  This will open up the storage area under the bed for improved out-door storage.  Make sure Earl understands that it is important to you to have that extra out-door storage.  Outdoor storage always trumps indoor storage because everyone runs short with outdoor storage.

Also, moving the furnace to the other side is "CRITICAL" for the 3 wide-drawer galley system that I made.  When the furnace is under the bed, the heat duct takes up the one drawer position, making it impossible to duplicate what I had done.  Make sure they also add the button latching system I have to keep the drawers closed, for anything less than a solid latch will have your drawers opening while driving.  Pay the extra money for it.  You won't be sorry.  Maybe they can offer a lower-cost alternative latching method compared to what I did, without sacrificing the security.

Be sure to get your dinette with the leather surface memory foam cushions for they will be much more comfortable than the standard cloth covered regular foam.  We had the regular cloth and after some years, switched to the leather with memory foam and it is a huge improvement.  They don't compare.

You mentioned getting the closet instead of the Euro chair.  I don't dispute having an extra closet will be very useful.  But having a 3rd seat instead will quickly become a favorite sitting place for lap time with a small dog, reading, playing guitar, and watching TV.  I think our 3rd captain seat will make for a better choice over the now-standard Euro chair, only because of your no-slide-out situation.  I do wonder that it would not be possible to recline properly with a Euro chair in the restricted space.  With our 3rd captain seat, the front dinette bench is a great ottoman when adjusting the captain seat close to it.  Both my wife and myself love the 3rd captain seat.  We started out with a standard-at-the-time barrel chair there which never got used.  Ask the factory about a 3rd captain seat that is identical to the two front seats.

If you think rotating the front passenger seat will provide the same doesn't compare.  It is close to the passenger door, low to the house floor, and you cannot watch TV from it.  It's much better than nothing and very nice to have when accommodating guests, but I feel the 3rd captain seat is much more comfortable, and always ready to use.  Watching TV when sitting at the dinette works, but you can't kick back.  I think you might miss having a favorite seat.

I understand the thermal windows have not been 100% thermal since the factory changed the window style in recent years.  Those that open, all fixed glass remains single pane because of the outdoor flush-mount styling.  The single pane areas represents the majority of the glass.  Ask about that option, and what exactly can you expect from it.  If you are disappointed, I would consider getting only one thermal pane window, the one in the back wall.  This to eliminate radiated down-draft over your head when you are sleeping in cold weather.  One thermal window would be much cheaper, and maybe is all you really need if the rest of the rig is thermally mixed up anyway.

I think PC-USA will not charge more for most unique requests.  There will be cost associated with the 3 galley drawer system, and a back wall thermal window.  The others may cost you nothing or miniscule.

That's all I have for now.
1438  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 26, 2014, 04:26:04 pm
I had to dismount then re-mount our kitchen faucet when I accidentally damaged one of the high pressure lines with a saw when rebuilding our base cabinet drawers from 5 to 3.  It was torture.  I told Irene that if she ever wanted a different kitchen faucet, this would be her one and only opportunity to change it.  She liked the original white single handle, so it's back in.

Unlike the bathroom faucet, I was not able to disconnect the plumbing at the kitchen faucet.  Those three hand-tighten features per line, had interferences to other things.   I had to cut the two lines and reconnect using standard house-hold stainless steel braided flexible lines with mating fittings to the white plumbing lines down lower where I could work with them.   It worked out in the end, but it was a lot more work than I thought would be.  I suppose now that it's been converted to flex lines, replacing the faucet will be much easier.
1439  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 26, 2014, 10:00:22 am
Hi Carol,

I quickly breezed through all the comments and am not sure what exactly are you ordering.  I know it is the brand new 2450 (extended 2350), but unsure of the following.
Are you ordering a slide out or not?
Are you ordering a dinette or couch?
Are you ordering the pantry to the right of the stove, or getting the optional extended bed?

I think you get a pantry to the right of the fridge with either a couch or dinette when not having a slide out, but only with a couch when getting a slide out.

If you are not getting a slide out as was our decision, I will have numerous inputs to assure you maximize outdoor storage and galley base cabinet storage.  Getting the slide out relocates things that affect those to areas.
1440  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: To tow or not to tow. That is the question. on: April 24, 2014, 02:17:09 pm
Ah!  Sorry, I have no experience with that one.  I did wonder if they did that much better than the nice mudflaps we all already have.  I suppose more is better.

I do get dust-like sand and such debris that accumulates by the wiper blades of the tow vehicle.  But I figured it was coming from around the sides of the PC, not from the rear PC tires.  Maybe I am wrong.
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