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1441  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: May 02, 2011, 03:24:19 pm
Ron,
     In the quote below you said you dumped in a ditch next to the driveway.  That is what I was referring to as "illegal" dumping.  As far as legally dumping gray water, I do know of some states that the only thing allowed to be dumped on their highways is fresh water.  You  must remember that the gray water comes out of the same opening that black water does, so unless you spotlessly clean the common drain line you will get some black water remnants exiting.  As far as the solution to dump in the concrete opening at a dump station and wash the area down upon completion, I do not know about your dumping, but when you open the dump valve the volume and pressure will shoot the contents all over and will not be contained in that little trough area.  Much easier to go to the store and get a hose and then dump.  Just my thoughts but anyone else have some ideas.
    Bob

"Without human solid waste, we flush our black and gray tanks only upon returning from our trips.  I pour in a half bottle of bleach in the toilet, and a half bottle in the kitchen sink, then fill up the two tanks to capacity with fresh warm water.  After an hour or two, I then drain them into the ditch next to the driveway, and repeat the process with fresh warm water alone.  The result is clean odor-free tanks."

Oh yes, you are right about that.  I never did explain that one in enough detail.

I drain my tanks on the way home from a trip.  Then add some fresh water to swish around until we finally get home.  Then I dump the heavily diluted leftovers at home, then bleach the tanks also dumped at home.  I do not dump high potent sewage in my ditch at home, though easily interpretted that way.  I suppose even what I do is not proper, but it is done at home on my own property, not encroaching on or endangering anyone.  I would never dump black waste diluted or not, anywhere improper except at home, with emphasis on...."very little".  What I put into my ditch is about 1% of what people's dogs put into their yards.

You make a good point about the trough.  I should setup a hose storage tube and have a hose on-hand.  One more on my "To-Do" list.
1442  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: May 02, 2011, 11:20:47 am
I never implied to dump illegally.  I thought, if my sani-con had a sudden failure, I could dump once at a dump station that has the cement trough that drains everything into the dump station sewer.  Just position the motor home so the drain cap is over the cement trough, then let out the sewage and let it go into the dump station tank properly.  Once done, rince the trough.  Then run to a store for a sewer hose to get me through until I repair the sanicon, possibly for the balance of the trip.  But then hose storage would surely be a problem, hence have a 3" poop hose and storage setup in advance.

About legal versus illegal dumping.  I did hear that in some states it is "Legal" to dump gray water along the road side.  Any truth to that?  I want to say Alaska allows it but am not 100% sure.
1443  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Camper Potatoes on: May 01, 2011, 12:03:25 am
In the late 80's/early 90s, our kids in Royal Rangers (a Boyscout type of a group) learned a similar meal, but with potatoes, meat, and carrots with salt and peper.  Wrap in multi-layers and folds of tin foil, then toss in the hot coals of a camp fire.  It is quite amazing how tasty that quick all in one meal is.
1444  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: another project on: April 30, 2011, 09:18:51 pm
Billy, You done some very nice little enhancements.

I always thought rope lights would have been a real nice touch in PCs.  ThumbsUp
1445  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: April 30, 2011, 09:05:40 pm
With what the fish are eating these days and now from Japan, I would not worry too much about a little poop.
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1446  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: April 30, 2011, 06:05:22 pm
For the fisherman, it seems a great place to store fishing poles.....before any poop gets in there.
1447  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 30, 2011, 11:11:15 am
My wife has to have a queen bed.
.....can you roast and bake in these things and will it brown meat?
If a queen bed is "most important", then the only PC models to consider are the 2900 and the 2910 where the queen bed is in a rear slide out.

I am not the "cook" in my household, so I hope the PC chefs will comment on the combo micro/convection oven.  Yes it will brown meat, but it seems NOT meant for huge roasts.  My wife most often uses the microwave, and occasionally does convection cooking to brown meat and some baking too.  But she prefers most cooking done outside on a picnic table using our table-top grill and propane stove.  My wife would prefer all cooking outside as she loves doing outdoor cooking of every kind, but utilizes indoor cooking when in a rush, when we have a late dinner after dark, and when parked overnight in places like Wal-Mart parking lots where it is not proper to setup camp.

You may want to consider investing in a table-top grill.  There is another post about grills, and the Weber Baby Q gets the most praise.  Click here to get to that post -----> http://phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php?topic=410.0
1448  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HELP! Big Oops!! on: April 30, 2011, 10:56:22 am
A hidden key sure sounds like a good idea.
1449  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HELP! Big Oops!! on: April 30, 2011, 03:23:43 am
Deaar Trudy,

I volunteer as a mechanic at our church where cars are donated, fixed up, and given to people in need, mostly single mothers who lost their transportation due to excessive hardships.  I share this because I get into many donated vehicles with keys locked inside.  Most vehicles are opened with a very thin metal stock, about 1/2" wide and 2 feet long with a notch cut into one side.  You slip it between the door window and the rubber strip on it's bottom.  You fish around by the door lock lever, key area, or door latch, hook it on something, either push down, push sideways, or pull up using the notch to hook it on something.  With patience and a little bending of the metal, you should be able to unlock one van door.  That piece of metal I describe can be purchased at most auto parts stores for around one dollar.  It has so many different names, a "correction, SLIM JIM" being one.  Here is what a nice one looks like with multiple notches.  I have one at home that I made myself out of scrap tin.  If you make one, just be sure there are no sharp edges to scratch or cut anything.


It is so easy to break into a vehicle without damage to it.

The only thing you could do to make it harder for a thief is to chain or cable the two van doors together on the inside, assuming the door handles are hollowed to allow a cable to be get strung through them.  That way thieves would have to break glass and crawl through the broken window.

Then there is consideration to the RV entry door.  It too needs to be secured with an extra latch close to the floor that they could not reach through a broken entry door window.
1450  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 29, 2011, 08:06:06 pm
Hi MikeD,

Welcome here to the Phoenix Cruiser forum.  I am glad to read you are doing some research here.

We did not order ours from the factory with the suspension upgrades mentioned.  On our mainden weekend journey from Chicago to Door County, WI, (4 hours away) we drove for a couple hours on an urban interstate highway that was being resurfaced.  We drove on the inside and outside shoulders at 50mph while towing a little car.  Our 2007 PC2350 did not handle those extreme conditions well at all.  Our experience with our first motorhome was just as poor which we got resolved mid way through our 24 years of ownership with it.  We were not going to mess around with our new motor home, so I took the new rig to the same place we took our first rig, to our local and trusted RV suspension shop and simply agreed to the recommendation of the shop expert there.  We spent $3900 to get a lot of suspension upgrades which dramatically improved the handling under poor as well as under ideal driving conditions.  I describe the "Before" as a drunken sailer.  The "After" as a tight SUV.  The things we had the shop do is as follows.
- Roadmaster heavy duty front & rear sway bars
- Henderson rear trac bar
- Koni-RV shocks
- Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer
- Front wheel alignment which required offset bushings to get the camber set perfect

Such suspension upgrades are strongly beneficial on any motor home, not just a Phoenix Cruiser.  I am not sure the Phoenix factory would do them, or have the motor home sent elsewhere to have it done.  It would surely be worth an inquiry.

Ask any more questions.  I would be happy to answer what I can.

PS:  I think a Phoenix Cruiser would make a great 1st motor home.  Just be sure to consider the right model that meets your needs best.  Most popular with retired folks is the 2551, but the new model 2552 model is a fast growing replacement for it's extra living room lounge chair.
1451  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Our New Ad for Highway Mag on: April 29, 2011, 11:36:58 am
One of my Adventure Anywhere pictures was taken at Theodore Rosevelt, North Unit, by the entrance near the visitor center.  If you click on the tiny light purple rectangle in the upper right corner of your screen, that picture will show up the the upper lefthand corner.  My right rear tires are off the pavement making the motor home lean bad for the picture.  I've got to consider that in future pics.
1452  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sewer hose storage on: April 28, 2011, 08:43:18 pm
Just wondering about this as my PC is my first RV managing waste.

Given we do not use our PC for #2, everything I discharge is liquid.  In the event of a maserator failure, I would think I could dump without a 3" hose by opening the 3" sewer cap, then open the black and gray tanks and simply let the stuff run on those concrete aprons at the dump stations.  Then rince the area once done.

Is that okay to do in an emergency?  Do people do that?  I never seen it.  I suppose it is not good camper edicate.
1453  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Our New Ad for Highway Mag on: April 28, 2011, 06:57:50 pm
That is so cool   Wink  and something to remember.

I am happy for you Tom.  You will have to get a copy of that magazine.
1454  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: If You Could, What Would You Do Differnet? on: April 28, 2011, 05:27:44 pm
Thanks for the offer Jack.  I will keep that in-mind if I give up on making something.
1455  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: If You Could, What Would You Do Differnet? on: April 28, 2011, 03:05:36 pm
That looks great and simple.  Maybe I could come up with something like that at home for myself.  Thanks Bob.
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