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1456  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How does your PC ride? on: January 30, 2012, 10:40:05 pm
The pre-2008 E350 chassis does not come with a rear sway bar of any kind.  The front bar is the same one installed on an E150 van, so how good is that one for such an extreme application?  If you are a do-it-yourselfer, you could buy heavy duty Helwigs off the internet fairly reasonable.  My brother and I installed a rear on his E350 motor home without issues and he was very happy with the improvement.  I encouraged him to get a front bar, but he kept his original with worn bushings too.

I went all out spending $3900 from a local specialty shop which makes our 2007 E350 PC chassis handle beautifully.  I'll never know if I went overboard, but I can say it was well worth every penny.  I had them install both front and rear heavy duty sway bars, rear trac bar, heavy duty front steering stabilizer, all shocks replaced with Koni made-for-motor home, and a front end alignment.  What I learned about all this back then, I would do in a particular order to see how little money I could get by with.  At an absolute minimum, I strongly advise to get front and rear heavy duty sway bars and a front end alignment, then go from there.
1457  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV show schedule on: January 30, 2012, 05:07:28 pm
I might, and I do mean "Might" attend the RV show at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosement, IL in February.  Here are the details:

Phoenix USA is not listed as one of the vendors.   Cry
1458  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Ford Transit Van on: January 27, 2012, 06:48:02 pm
I stand corrected.  Bring on the Transit......PC-Transit that is!
1459  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Ford Transit Van on: January 27, 2012, 02:00:22 pm
This has been a topic on other RV forums.

I understand the E350/E450 cut-away and stripped chassis will NOT be discontinued, only the E150/E250/E350 van.  Ford will continue to build the E-series for ambulances, box trucks, and other retro-fit applications including motor homes.  My concern is that cost will quickly increase as quantities of common parts to the basic van decreases.

I believe the T-Series van is a heavy duty work truck that is not very different from a Dodge Caravan.  It has a very small engine and front wheel drive.  I understood it has a heavy duty unibody which means there are no frame rails to build an RV house onto in a cut-away application.  If that is true, I don't envision Ford offering a specially designed duel rear wheel, rear wheel drive cut-away T-Series for larger class B+/C motor homes.

I think a T-Series (Transit Van) for motor home applications might be compared to the front wheel drive VW van that was used from 1996 to 2005 for the Winnebago Rialta and Vista motor home series.  VW delivered half chassis to Winnebago.  They actually came as twins, bolted together back-to-back.  I wish I had a picture to show that.  Everything from behind the VW van doors was 100% supplied by someone other than VW.  The frame, suspension, brakes, etc, it was all a kit car back there.  VW dealers wanted nothing to do with these, making service and warranty work very difficult for owners.  The Rialta and Vista single rear wheels and are quite a lot smaller than your typical motor home, much smaller than a PC-2350.  I considered many of their features more novity-like than practical.

I think any T-Series used for a motor home would resemble one of these.  If you love your PC slide outs, shower, fridge, stove, and all the rest, you wouldn't be very happy with one of these.  The expanding Rialta bathroom was really something.  Imagine yourself showering in an airplane bathroom, no....worse than that.

Rialta 1996-2005

Vista 2002-2005 (I think)
1460  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Proof of Purchase on: January 26, 2012, 12:30:08 pm
That is a good reminder.

I got a fat white 3-ring binder that I keep everything related to our rig inside.  Exception is the Ford chassis manual kit which is kept next to it, both stored here.

I do question "Proof Of Purchase" as I got the owners manuals and installation manuals for everything, but no actual receipt as PC-USA purchased them from the suppliers, not me personally.
1461  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Planning trip to utah, Colorado, and the Grand Canyon on: January 26, 2012, 09:17:08 am
Al B,

Did you just share that with everyone here, or did I?  I am with you 100% in agreement.  We did that trip 4 years ago and loved it so much that we hope to do it again in September, this time towing our 4x4 Liberty.  We plan to get deep into Escalante to take a boat ride to Rainbow Bridge.

But our finances are shakey this year so we will see what will come.  Our obligations to our children college education zero'd us out, but it's over for us now.  First priority is a new tear-off roof, 2nd is a 110 foot storm sewer in the side yard.  Yata yata yata.  We are honkering down right now.  Hopefully it will work out.  I hope our massive garage sale planned for June will contribute.

A lot of the Phoenix main website pictures are of us taken on that trip.  We camped across from the trail head to the 3rd largest arch in the country......Morning Glory Arch (natural bridge) with a 243 feet span.  Needless to say the morning sun lights it up in it all it's glory.

Our campsite there.
1462  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex inverter on: January 25, 2012, 09:02:53 am
I think the reason why some outlets are not on the inverter is for concern an owner may overload an inverted electrical circuit, damaging the motor home in some way.  For example, in our 2007 2350 no-slide, we have an outlet in the front dinette bench that is NOT functional with the inverter.  I wish it was as our laptop computer would have utilized it nicely.  I think the factory reserved that outlet for a toaster which could never safely opperate off the inverter.  That outlet works only with the generator or shore power.

I think it may be possible to power that dinette outlet through the inverter as the circuit breaker panel is very close to my inverter.  I may be able to simply rework the wiring in that area.  But I never had enough enthusiasm to dig into it as we have adapted well to work around it.

I feel that if you cannot rework the wiring in the circuit breaker/inverter area to accomplish the electrical change, then I would not mess with it.
1463  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 24, 2012, 07:46:03 pm
Welcome newbees Deena & Avery!  We are happy you've joined our family & forum.  Balloons
1464  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Humming noise on: January 22, 2012, 08:01:21 pm
About Inverter fan noise.....

We handle our older Tripp-Lite power consumption  by shutting it down on the inverter itself.  There is a small switch on the upper right area by the LEDs there.  Placing that switch in the middle of the 3 positions kills the inverter completely which is very important when in storage and also when dry camping.

So in saving power, the fan noise and LED blinking is gone which is great when sleeping.  We only turn on the inverter manually when we want 110v.  This subject gets deeper on the older inverters.  My old thread here covers this in great detail:,73.0.html
1465  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: January 20, 2012, 12:16:07 pm current 2350 and previous 2700...
You are the only person I know who previously owned a larger PC, then down-sized into a 2350.  I am curious, what your reasoning was and how satisfied you are with your decision.

I assume the masses who went the other way...from a 2350 to a 2551 or 2552, was mainly due to the limited access of the 2350 rear corner double bed, and for better bathroom conveniences.  Am I right all you converts?  Or was there primarily another reason why you were so inspired to do so?

Not so long ago when I was more aggresive in promoting the Phoenix Cruiser, I shared how much we love our 2350.  I wondered how many people bought one like ours partially because of my comments.  Then when I noticed on this forum, how the 2350 masses were moving into something just a little bigger, I stopped promoting for fear of steering people into something they would be disappointed with.

For my wife and I, sleeping across an isle from eachother would be absolutely unacceptable.  We'd much rather wrestle a bit into bed than give up snuggling and the other.....  But apparently most of you have other higher priorities like easy bed entry/exit, and making up the beds in the morning. Oh, and the nicer bathroom too.

I always thought PC-USA should offer a short-as-possible 26-27 footer, rear walk-around double bed like once was very popular before the days of slideouts.
1466  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: bedding for our new 2552?? on: January 19, 2012, 11:18:56 am
Interesting.  I stand corrected.

I do think that is the exception rather than the rule.  How do the PC twin, double, and queen beds compare to domestic sizes?
1467  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: bedding for our new 2552?? on: January 19, 2012, 09:49:49 am
I don't know of any motor home with beds made to the same standard as beds in housing.  Twin, Double, Queen, King, they are all scaled down.  Buying a replacement mattress must be a bit of a challenge.
1468  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shoes... on: January 18, 2012, 05:54:25 pm
We "Went Generic" for shoe storage having a shallow box and also a shoe tray, both under the captain seat by the entry door.  Our retractable hiking sticks go there as well.  There is a lot of room under and around that seat in our 2350.

I do like that shelving though.  In our case, it would be useful in our closet for other items.  Thanks for sharing gophoenix.
1469  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A rattle i can not isolate on: January 17, 2012, 01:27:14 pm
Me too, same as bobander.

I bought these common thick 1" round felt pads, the kind you place on the bottom of chairs to slide on wood floors.  I stuck them to the bottom of the 4 antenna feet and also on the antenna wing tips.  That horrible rattle is now 100% gone.

I did trim the wing tip pads into strips.  Given the roof has a slope, make sure the wing tip pads make "first-contact".

1470  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Advice regarding purchasing a PC. We are new to the PC and B+ World on: January 15, 2012, 10:19:42 pm
Hi David,

Welcome to our little community of PC owners.

Given you are down-sizing to one of the largest PC models, I won't be of much help in recommendations given I own a small PC-2350.  I will leave that up to the PC owners of the largest models.

Again, Welcome!
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