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16  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Wood floors on: June 12, 2016, 12:17:49 pm
Here are 3 Youtube video segments that show of the manufacturing of a 2007 Phoenix Cruiser.  It happens to show a model 2350, 2551, and a 2100 being built, but applicable to all models.  Unfortunately the sound quality is poor and the video quality isn't too good either.  But if you study it closely, you will see the vinyl flooring throughout with exception to a foot or two right behind the cab.  It's not easy to make out, but the vinyl flooring is throughout the rest.

1st Youtube CLICK HERE
2nd Youtube CLICK HERE (introduction mistakenly repeated)
3rd Youtube CLICK HERE

Though the slide show was made for 2007, there is so much applicable to current-day.  It is well worth watching to learn how your PC is made.

ADDING: I found a more current video of a PC being built with a laminate floor HERE at minute 2:30.  Earl does not mention anything about a vinyl sub-floor and there is none seen.  The exterior walls do NOT sit on the laminate floor, everything "interior" does.
17  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning exterior of PC on: June 12, 2016, 12:05:08 pm
I prefer to stay on the ground, not balancing between a ladder and the hood, especially when things are all wet and slippery.  Know I would fall on my dumb old head, for sure.  pulling hair out
Maybe one day I will post that I am in a body cast from cleaning the B+ cap.....time to lower my expectations on bug removal.   rolling on the floor
18  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 12, 2016, 09:15:47 am
John,

Back in 2007, PC-USA installed a low back chair called a barrel chair.  It was pedestal-mounted to the floor.  Years later I replaced that chair with a 3rd matching captain seat.  It was very easy to swap back then, all of 20 minutes.  Seat belts and pedestal, all were never tampered with.

PC-USA will do today what we have, maybe at no extra charge.  Ask Earl if there is an up-charge.  Something tells me it's the same cost.
19  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning exterior of PC on: June 11, 2016, 08:53:18 am
God made me with enough reach to work with my hands, but I do use a controversial process.  I place my large step ladder in a sweet spot on each side and wear my foam Crocks which work great to lightly rest my foot for balance, on the grill just below the windshield.  One thing certain, it's not easy.  My by-hand method using lots of soap and a netted-sponge gets all the bug juice off.  I had tried a couple of different pole-methods but can't get the same results.  I won't be able to clean the B+ cap this way for that much longer for when I am done I say....."I am getting too old for this".
20  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 10, 2016, 12:34:36 am
I went with the sofa versus the dinette (I am 6'3" and around 250 pounds and Earl indicated he did not squeeze well into the dinette),
John,

I wonder if model 2351 with no slide out and no pantry along the driver side, could offer an extra long dinette table (more distance between benches) which would provide a lot more dinette leg room for a tall person.  That would also have the potential to offer extra room for a large belt-line person, increasing the dimension between back rest and table edge.  The extra long table could easily sacrifice a few inches on each end to increase seating room.  You would give up the bed conversion which is an easy sacrifice for some people.  It is something to ask Earl about if a dinette is a high priority for you.  

If considering a dinette, be sure to get the leather with memory foam as it is much more comfortable to sit on.  Memory foam is thinner & more dense than standard foam which increases comfort and space.  The cloth softer foam swallowed us up and I bottomed out on the bench board.  The leather makes for easy entry & exit from the dinette bench seats.  I know all this because we ordered our PC with standard foam with cloth, later changed to memory foam & leather, a great improvement in comfort.

PS: Thank you for your kind words.
21  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 10, 2016, 12:14:21 am
Hi John,

Welcome!

About the topic of a slide out.

We have an older 2350 (a 2007 model year) without the slide out which we intentionally ordered that way.  It is not the popular choice, but has been the right choice for us.  It has been 9 years since we bought our PC-2350 and my wife and I are still glad we don't have the slide out.  We never did find value with the extra floor space that the slide out offers, but rather found greater value in having a good size dinette, much more storage, and the clean interior while traveling as we do travel a lot.  Other notable benefits were the lower purchase price, 400 pounds less weight, eliminated the reliability concerns when considering our 30+ year planned ownership, better insulated, no bugs or water brought inside when bringing in the slide out, and never any water entry during wind-driven rain.

Most people love their slide out(s) which are especially appreciated when snow-birding and such, lived-in and parked for long periods of time.  I do wonder if they would still love them 25 years later after everything slide out related has become tired.  At the same time, most people replace their motor home long before such issues surface, so they have only good things to say about them with regards to reliability.  They also emphasis resale & trade-in value because the open interior does offer a great impression, even in the used RV market.

I feel that if you generally change rigs every 10 years or so, then a PC slide out will surely serve you well.  It is during the 2nd or 3rd decade when having a slide out could become more of a pain than a benefit.
22  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Dvd player won't turn on on: June 09, 2016, 07:24:18 am
Ron, can't find a fuse like you suggest.  Too bad.  Now to find a replacement that will have the same hookups and size.
We just returned from a 30 day European trip ourselves.

Sorry to hear there is no obvious fuse to replace.   Cry
23  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Pros and Cons of Insulated Glass and Rear Ladder/roof rack on: June 09, 2016, 02:12:06 am
I ordered our 2007-2350 new (9 years ago) with insulated glass and also the roof rack and ladder, but I requested the ladder & rack be placed inside the rig in pieces.  Nine years later, both remain stored in our brick-&-mortar house basement leaving me to wonder if I should put them up on Ebay or Craigslist along with a pile of other retired PC items collected over the past 9 years.  If you are unsure what to do, I suggest you consider what I had done.  You can always install one or both later.  But taking either off will leave unsightly plugged holes.

About insulated glass, I agree with the others.  It is well work the extra cost for the reasons shared.  We are very happy we with them.

Sorry but I feel a central vac an unnecessary complexity, especially in the smaller PCs.
24  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Pros and cons of a generator on: June 09, 2016, 01:54:40 am
JJ,

It never hurts to call the factory and ask them what they would charge to install a new generator and wire it up for you.  You never know.  They might be able to do it, and maybe at a price you would consider.

Oh yes, I agree with the other comments.  We love having the generator.  Maintenance is a breeze too.

Ron
25  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flat towing on: June 09, 2016, 01:47:23 am
We tow a 2013 CRV with our 2007 2350.  We experienced the same thing as you, when not towing the RV handled fine.   When the CR-V was connected it negatively impacted the handling of the RV, especially when passed by large vehicles pushing a lot of air.  This started me down the path of doing several suspension improvements:

-  Safe-T-Plus steering damper
-  Rear sway bar (Roadmaster)
-  Rear Trac-bar
-  Front Sway Bar (Hellwig)
-  Quiet hitch (eliminates any side to side play in the tow bar/receiver connection)

All this has helped quite a lot and I am pleased with the improvements.  I don't get concerned with upcoming trucks anymore.  I don't know for a fact, but I would bet the rear trac-bar made the biggest improvement for the passing truck issue. 

I am not sure I am following your statement, "I don't think safe to stearate is the answer as it is probably the car that is pulling the coach."   Also I am curious about what chassis you have with your 2350 (E350 or E450).  I thought the more recent suspension improvements did not require all the upgrades that I made with my older 2007 E350. 

JJ
What JJ says  ThumbsUp
26  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thanks for the years of assistance and comradery, and so long on: June 09, 2016, 01:44:23 am
Greg & Kathy, Happy Travels in your Road Trek!
27  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shocks on: June 09, 2016, 01:38:13 am
I too would like to hear of anyone who installed Koni-FSD shocks on all for corners.  I think every motor home could benefit from a smoother ride.  It seems the Koni-FSDs have a chance at making a notable difference.

In the mean time, the only other simple thing you can do to smooth out your ride is to carry a full tank of fresh water, and load the rig with everything you might need like heavy tools with the weight properly distributed.  I say this because the closer you get to a max-load condition, the smoother your ride will become.  It's like driving around in an empty box truck.  Load the truck up and the ride smooths out.

Given the situation with a 2351-E450, I would consider taking the rig to an RV suspension shop to have them research the possibility of removing a few leaf springs in back, and change the front coil springs to the next lesser-rated ones.  The rig unmodified has so much more capacity than most people would ever utilize.

A few people special order a 2350-E450 which is a more severe condition.
28  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Wood floors on: June 09, 2016, 01:17:54 am
It would be interesting to know if the wood flooring (laminate or real wood) is installed over a vinyl floor.  I bring this up because the vinyl flooring covers 100% of the deck to protect the structural sub-plywood floor underneath.  Carpet, cabinets, walls, and all the rest is installed on top of the vinyl flooring.  At least it appears to be so done with our old 2007 2350.

If the fancy wood flooring option does not have the vinyl floor underneath it, that would make the rig much more vulnerable to water damage if a plumbing leak occurred.
29  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I ordered a new PC but I still have one question on: April 27, 2016, 01:02:57 am
Byron,

I love your selection, especially the 2351 with bigger galley.  That gives you more counter space and more drawer storage.  The only thing I would consider adding is a 3rd patio light on the driver side, on it's own switch by the entry door.  If camping in remote places, you will appreciate 270 degrees of campsite lighting.  It is also useful when backing into a campsite late at night.

Just so you know, your dinette would have been about 8" bigger if you delete the slide out.  That is 8" of additional leg room, 8" more table, and an 8" longer bed when made up so.  8" might even be on the conservative side.  It could be even more.  If you delete the slide out but kept the dinette the same size, you might have room for a pantry between the fridge and dinette.

Ron
30  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: power to TV and DVD Player on: April 26, 2016, 12:27:02 am
Gail has it right.  Check the 110V circuit breakers and the GFI outlet in the bathroom.   I believe there is only one GFI outlet in a 2007 2100 and it is in the bathroom.  I would flip every 110V breaker off and on again to make sure they are in good order.  I would also hit the red and black buttons on the GFI outlet to test it.  A "tripped" GFI always confuses me which is on and which is off.  I use the trial and error method.

Let us know what you find.
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