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16  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Winterizing on: November 02, 2015, 09:35:22 am
Given our PC is stored in our heated garage, I don't winterize it.  But I do my best to remove all water.  I have a steep driveway that I take advantage of.  I drive the rig up on an angle such that the remaining fresh water in that tank finds the drain valve, so more water is removed.  I also open the 3" waste cap in back and get the last of the water sitting in there which is about a 1/2 inch deep given the Sanicon inlet design.  Of coarse I do that after I sanitize the sewage system.

I could but don't bother to blow out the 3 traps.  I really should do that in case I ever need to pull the rig out of the garage during the winter.

Just so everyone here knows.  After you drain your hot water tank, there is still 1/2 gallon of water inside it.  This is by design to protect the 110v heating element from burning out if accidentally turned on while plugged in.  The manufacture of the hot water tank claims it is designed to freeze with the heating element inside it but that just does not sit right with me.  This is simply an FYI.  I have no suggestion to offer.
17  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thank you on: November 02, 2015, 08:45:10 am
Tom, I hope you realize I was kidding about my "Road Construction Orange" suggestion.  I like your comments Tom about an emergency LED beacon.  Actually a huge bright orange tarp would serve multiple purposes if Chiuly wanted such emergency visibility.

I recall some years back, there was story in the news about a fellow who drove his motor home on a closed winter road.  The fellow got stuck and then snowed in.  He survived for months but eventually died of cold and starvation.  It wasn't until spring when they found his motor home and body.  I want to say it was in Washington State but uncertain.  I think they searched for him but his rig got buried in snow and not seen from above.  Cleaning the snow off a huge orange tarp and emergency beacon could have saved him.  A good VHF 2-way radio might have also helped.

I always think of that stranded motor home story when I read of people on forums going wilderness camping during questionable times of the year.
18  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Moving up to class a on: November 02, 2015, 01:32:53 am
Well wishes from me too skipper.  Cheers
19  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thank you on: November 02, 2015, 01:30:11 am
Hi Chiuly,


WOW, I read through your description on your ordered 2552 4x4 and am extremely impressed with your technical specifications.  I do understand about your color choice up there in Alaska to absorb the sun rays.  The only thing I wonder is, do you really want to blend into the terrain so well?  Remember the movie Into The Wild?  If you get into trouble, nobody will see you from a helicopter or search plane. Smile  Maybe have the factory paint your roof "Road Construction Orange" Smile Smile Smile

I look forward to your pictures and detailed foot notes.  When I see your posts coming through, I will have to pop a bag of popcorn and settle into my chair here.
20  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Need The Strength Of "THE HULK" To Work Your Shower Head? If So, Read This. on: November 01, 2015, 02:11:11 pm
Well I thank you both for your kind words over my retirement.  And to answer Tom's question.  Irene has been at home patiently awaiting for this moment, right along with me.
21  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Need The Strength Of "THE HULK" To Work Your Shower Head? If So, Read This. on: November 01, 2015, 08:18:10 am
I found at our local home improvement center, a 59" (the original is 59"-60") replacement hose for $5.95 so I bought it.  It is not as flexible as the expensive systems have, but better than our original solid white plastic one.  I think the original simply got stiffer with age.  I was tempted to buy a better shower system, but this was just too easy and so cheap a solution.  And Irene totally agreed with me.

Like Barry-Sue had done, I also bought stainless hardware for around the shower pan.  Some of the original #6 screws did not bite well at all so I bought the next diameter larger, #8s.  They fit the same holes and bite in perfectly and so that little project is now done.

While in the shower, I also noticed the caulk on one corner wall and along one edge of the pan needed attention so I rubbed it off (yes it simply rubbed off as it was spread extremely thin), cleaned it up, and laid a new bead of white silicone caulk, the same caulk I used on the cracked Dicor on the roof around the vents up there, explained in another T&T thread.

I am on a role checking off my list and lovin it.  I now have time for it for I got laid off last Tuesday from Motorola Solutions after 38 years there.  It really was perfect timing.  I got a nice severance package which I considered to be a very nice parting gift.  I am a free man now like most of you are so these little projects are play time for me.
22  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV Insurance and Extended Warranty Insurance on: November 01, 2015, 01:23:36 am
If you are real handy with trouble shooting and repairs of all kinds at home and with your vehicles, I would say extended warranties would not be advisable.  If you are not handy, then I would say you need to think about it.  Don't just blindly buy it either.......just think about it.

When it comes to motor homes (and most other everyday household items), keep in-mind there are many forums, this place being one of them, where you can get decent advise and direction.  If you are hesitant, keep in mind that if someone else can do it for you, then maybe you can do it for yourself as well......surgical procedures not so much.   Smile
23  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sound proofing/Undercoating on: October 28, 2015, 09:08:26 am
OK, OK. So what? A thousand dollar party somewhere???
I love it.  Let's do it!  Where do I show up?  Smile

I like Ron's (ragoodsp) spray product idea.

On our first motor home, I used to spray down the engine compartment with a can of WD-40 in the late fall for the first 5 years to keep things from rusting.  Back then at our first house, the rig was parked outside on the street.  That did so much better than the Z-Bart sprayed elsewhere.  But I do recommend using what Ron suggested, not WD-40.

For fun, here is the engine bay of our first motor home.  I took the picture when putting it up for sale.  The rig was 24 yeas old at the time.

Now don't get any ideas here.  I don't recommend spraying your PC engine bay with anything.  I had a different situation, simple mechanics, easy access and good air circulation, no heat by comparison.  You don't want to burn up your PC.
24  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Death Valley on: October 28, 2015, 09:04:42 am
I agree with Bob as that was our experience as well, done while towing our little MR2.  But we were there in the fall when temps were in the 80's.  It was quite enjoyable to be there without the heat I remember as a kid.  That changed everything.  I would love to go back in the spring time soon.
25  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Sound proofing/Undercoating on: October 26, 2015, 10:35:00 pm
I totally agree with Bob Mahon.  I would NEVER have it done.  We had Z-Bart done on our first motor home when new in 1983 and that did more harm than good.  After 4 years of warranty visits I gave up.  The product dries & cracks and turns into potato chips, then the contaminants and moisture gets trapped in the pockets.  Adding all the holes they drilled into the body of the chassis made things worse yet.  I won't get into the mess of it all.  I hated touching anything on the underside of the rig.

On PCs, the underside of the motorhome is a corrugated "fluted" plastic material.  Undercoating on that material could get heavy and cause that protective plastic barrier to sag.

I feel the best thing you can do for your undercarriage after the salty conditions are past you, is to rinse it with fresh water from a garden hose with a common spray nozzle.  The salt rinses off immediately.
26  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 26, 2015, 12:45:30 pm
Question:  With the no slide/dinette option, is it still feasible to have the Euro chair or Captain's Chair... or does that just begin to get too crowded?  Jim
Hi Jim,

I can only comment on our "mounted" captain seat.  That seat with the dinette works extremely well together.  When one of us wants to stretch out and relax (like when watching a movie), we adjust the seat close to the dinette, recline back, and use the front dinette bench seat as an ottoman.  We can also flip the passenger seat around and use that as an ottoman as well, but we never bother doing that one.  Because that 3rd seat is most forward in the rig, it's out of the way of traffic.  One person can fall asleep in that seat for a nap without being in the way of the other getting around inside the rig.

Sorry, but I don't have a picture how the seat can be adjusted close to the dinette.
I only have this picture using the front passenger seat as an ottoman.

Here is the captain seat in the typical position, close against the right side wall.  It is still very comfortable to sit in just as shown.  For me, as shown I can still use the dinette bench as an ottoman.  My wife with shorter legs needs the captain seat adjusted closer.
27  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: San con pump on: October 26, 2015, 12:22:39 pm
If you do have something bouncing around inside, try filling up your waste tanks, open one waste valve at a time, and drain using the gravity feed.  It might dislodge something away from the mascerator and wash it out.

When our pump was failing, it started with the rubber flappers breaking off.  But the big failure was one of the assembly bolts broke and jammed the cutting blade.  I replaced the pump, details with pictures HERE
28  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 26, 2015, 10:43:06 am
Im currently leaning towards the 2351.
but I do believe it will be 4x4.
I would get a 2351 built on the E450 chassis.  Even more so if going 4x4.

Our 2350 works great for us.  But that extra foot would really make a difference for us if we ordered a 2351 with the rear corner double bed one foot longer instead of the pantry.  It would make entry and exit from the bed much easier and it would increase the outdoor storage compartment that much larger.  We would surely maintain our no-slide dinette and gain the pantry there because of it.  So in the end, we add a pantry on driver side, and a longer bed with bigger outdoor storage on the passenger side.  With the E450 chassis, the extra outdoor storage would be better supported.

If you are a true wilderness person who needs to carry more water, I would think the extra foot could also increase the size of your water tank and even still gain some extra outdoor storage.
29  Main Forum / Polls / Re: unsatisfied with performance of Air Conditioner? on: October 25, 2015, 10:10:56 pm
Hi Karl,

When you are in those extremely hot temperatures, are you staying in that camp site for weeks at time?  If you are, it might be worth making a shade canopy that covers above and around the rig.  It would take tall 2x2 poles in front & back, and shorter ones along the sides, roped-& staked all around.  Big screws into the ends needed to set through the eyelets of the tarp, and for the ropes to attach to.  You might have to make a stand to place on your PC roof to hold up the middle if it sags.  You'll want the a/c unit to breathe, allowing the heat to escape out the ends of the gable.

At a family reunion, my cousin setup such a canopy using a huge cheap tarp which provided massive shade for everyone.  It was so big that you could surely park a PC under it.  I just did a quick search and found THIS ONE.  If it works well but does not hold up well year after year, then buy something more durable.  I would first set it up in your back yard at home to learn how it's going to work in a camp site.  Of coarse such a canopy would be vulnerable to strong winds so keep that into consideration.  It is just a thought, not a proven idea for covering a PC.

Adding reflective insulation on all windows is effective, but that would turn the motor home into a cave.  I am just tossing out the canopy idea to avoid blocking out the light and to keep the sun off the entire rig.  Unfortunately the blue tarp I linked to will surely provide a lot of blue light inside.  A white tarp would be ideal, and cooler too.

There are also window shades available for the windows on the left side of the rig.  We have one for our dinette window, shown here in the "stored" position.  But the sun still beats down on the over-all motor home.
30  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: October 25, 2015, 08:35:46 am
Welcome, all!   Welcome chandelier

    - Mike
Me too! Smile
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