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16  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Cablw TV doesn't work on: September 18, 2016, 09:18:57 pm
If all the suggestions offered don't make a difference, drive to a site as close to the RV park office as you can and plug into that CATV.  It could be the CATV service to your specific camp site is bad.
17  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: backup camera on: September 18, 2016, 04:15:33 pm
We lost the sound on our 2007 Zone Defense back-up camera system a number of years ago.  It was so nice to have sound to get quiet verbal commands from my wife when pulling late into a campsite at night.  I can't locate the microphone in back anywhere, and nobody at Phoenix or Zone Defense could tell me either.  I was hoping to clean the mic hole of bugs or something to get sound again.

If anyone with sound knows where the mic is and has a solution, I would love to hear about it.
18  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: More battery power, please on: September 17, 2016, 11:03:44 am
Lots of good battery info and feeling better may not have totally ruined ours since don't think rest voltage was below 11v, but how do you correlate rest voltage to what's showing on the meter while playing a dvd knowing DW won't appreciate turning everything off to check.
Randall & Chris,

I added this to my previous post to help clarify.

What I refer to as "resting voltage" is the voltage of the batteries when nothing is using them.  That "resting voltage" or "idle voltage" should not get below 12.1V.

When your inverter is on with the TV, lights and all the rest, the "working voltage" will be less than the "resting voltage".  Unfortunately a volt meter does not tell you what's really going on until after you turn everything off.  There are much better, more complex systems that do, but I am hoping to learn enough with a simple volt meter in constant view.  I hope it will come down to "feeling out" the reading after a vacation or two.  I have yet to go on a multi-week trip with the new volt meter installed so I am not sure how well I'll be able to determine when the batteries need charging under "working voltage" conditions.  I may be dependent on readings after turning everything off.  I will find out soon enough.

19  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: More battery power, please on: September 17, 2016, 08:46:57 am
I have seen that chart many times.  I understand that a complete battery drain, regardless of it's technology (wet acid, gel, AGM, other) will permanently degrade it by some amount, making it's energy bucket permanently smaller.  The name of the game is to never let the batteries go below 12.1V (or 50%) when they are at rest.  Pending the demand when they are in-use, the voltage can immediately drop into the 11's.  Turn off the hungry electrical items that are eating energy, and the resting voltage goes back up.  What I refer to as "resting voltage" is the voltage of the batteries when nothing is using them.

I installed a volt meter HERE to offer an additional means of monitoring, in an "IN MY FACE" location.  As I previously mentioned, when the batteries are getting used, the voltage can drop below the safe zone of ~12.1V, but when everything is turned off, a fully charged battery will immediately rise back to ~12.7V.  It's not the best method to monitor the batteries, but between the Tripp-Lite monitor, the main PC monitor, and the added volt meter, I hope to take better care of our batteries.

A simple alternative to my volt meter is a 12V plug-in one like THIS.  Unfortunately there are no 12V outlets in the house of a PC that are in plain view.

The battery indicators on our 2007 2350 Tripp-Lite control panel is a 3 colored LED light as follows.  For me, it's not enough information to work with.
GREEN - fully charged
GREEN/YELLOW - partially drained
YELLOW - needing a charge now
YELLOW/RED - batteries are permanently degrading, charge immediately
RED - batteries are dead

Like with the Tripp-Lite battery meter, the battery monitor on our main control panel HERE isn't enough for me.  It doesn't help that I have to push the button to read the meter.  Continuous metering is a constant reminder to pay attention.  The one I installed and that plug-in one uses so very little energy.
20  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gonna use the home phone in the PC on: September 16, 2016, 01:06:43 pm
Since our house has good quality internet via our cable TV provider, we switched our brick & mortar house phone service to NetTalk, a carbon copy of MagicJack.  We pay around $40 a year for unlimited nation wide phone service.  It works extremely well with our Gigaset 300 wireless house phones which has an answering machine.  Our original Siemens wireless house phone system was not compatible with either MagicJack or NetTalk.  We bought a 1st replacement wireless house system which also had issues.  The 2nd attempt, the Gigaset 300 system works perfect.  And it works well with the old wired phones sprinkled around the house.

I wanted to drop the house phone altogether and reply exclusively on our cell phones, but my wife Irene wanted to keep the house phone so this was a great compromise.  I thank her for doing all the research trying the two different service providers and 3 different house phone systems to come up with a good working, very affordable home phone service.  I am glad Irene found a cheap means of keeping the house phone, especially now that I am retired.
21  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: September 16, 2016, 09:47:56 am

So I take it then that your dinette cannot be converted into a bed?  I don't see the little "rests" for the table when making up a bed.  Nothing about your dinette looks right.  It's like I am looking at a different brand of motor home.  Are you certain you did not ask for anything unique with regards to the dinette?

One thing I always liked about our dinette is that we have the option to convert it into a bed and also a day bed, a decent size couch by adding large backrest & armrest pillows.  It won't be a reclining couch like many PC owners have these days, but it surely offers a ton of storage underneath.
22  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: changing to bilstein shocks on: September 16, 2016, 09:30:12 am
This is only my opinion. Phoenix builds on a Ford  chassis to Ford specs. If they mess with the Ford systems you may have trouble getting warranty work done. You could have a lot of "not our equipment, talk to them".
I agree with you.

For example, if you took your Ford E350/E450 to a speed shop to have the engine heads modified, a turbo & high pressure fuel pump added, Ford will surely say "That is not what we sold you so we wash our hands of your engine related problem".

The warranty is void as the modification pertains to your problem at hand.  Changing the shock absorbers, stabilizer bars, rear trac bar, steering stabilizer, things like that do NOT void the Ford factory warranty for the entire vehicle.  They only void the warranty of those particular parts and possibly the system they directly affect.  I would never expect Ford to pay for a problem I develop with one of my Roadmaster heavy duty stabilizer bars.

But at the same time, the heavy duty suspension upgrades are quite proven.  Ford may view the Roadmaster bars, Bilstein shocks, Safe-T-Plus and such as approved components and will correct a warranty issue that develops around them.  For example, lets say a front lower control arm bushing failed.  I believe Ford would replace it under warranty even though there is a Roadmaster heavy duty stabilizer bar attached to that control arm.

Like 2 Frazzled says....This is only my opinion.  Smile  Safe travels!
23  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: More battery power, please on: September 15, 2016, 09:29:40 pm
3rd time this summer could not start generator in the morning.  Wife plays tv and DVDs for several hours in evening and on a cold night the furnace uses the remaining battery power.
Hi Randall & Chris,

Boy I can sure relate to that.  We've been there and done a version of that for many years.  The changes I made recently in our 2007 2350 to help was to replace our two 12V batteries to two 6V batteries HERE, convert our lighting from florescent to LED HERE, a means to monitor the health of the batteries better HERE, and for those long late night movie nights, we watch TV from a much smaller 19" with integrated DVD player HERE.  In our 2007 2350, the little TV is mounted against the shirt closet over the bed.  TVs today are so much easier on batteries than the two older ones we have.  Many TVs in the small sizes actually run off 12V to begin with, getting their power from a power supply much like a lap top computer.  When shopping for a TV for your RV, make sure it runs off a 10V to 16V power supply.  Investigate them via the store displays.  When installing the TV, wire it direct to 12V.

I realize you have a 2015 model year and so some of what I changed is already applied into your new model.  What helps our batteries a lot is to keep the inverter turned "OFF" as much as possible, so having a 12V TV with integrated DVD player would offer a "HUGE" savings in energy by working direct off the batteries.  One of my next projects is to find a 12V TV with integrated DVD or Bluray.  I wonder if they exist.  It seems CDs & DVD are becoming a thing of the past with all this Pandora and Fandango stuff.

As to the effectiveness of all the changes I made, it is noticeably improved, but the jury is out as to how much better.  I still try hard to charge the batteries just before a planned "Big Drain" event.  If there is not enough juice to start the generator which happened once, extra long jumper cables to the chassis battery is a viable means to get it started.

Oh, I did want to also mention that I agree that the furnace blower is a real power hog.  I know you have a 2400 so you can't easily close off your bedroom.  But for others reading, close up your bedroom with the draw curtain HERE to contain the heat where you and the thermostat are to reduce the cycling of the furnace.
24  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Need instructions to remove drawer glides on: September 15, 2016, 06:56:25 pm
Patricia, You are so very welcome.  I try to help where I can.

BTW: Thank you also over your compliments about the color of our PC.  I have always appreciated the style of the front of our van portion with the front bumper cover & fog lamps, an option from Phoenix that we paid extra for.
25  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: September 15, 2016, 06:05:22 pm
My official Welcome to J&S
26  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Need instructions to remove drawer glides on: September 15, 2016, 05:41:51 pm
Hi Patricia,

Any drawer including the cutting board, the glides separate by holding down on one side, up on the other side, the black plastic levers on the exposed side of the glides.  When holding them up/down, pull hard on the board and it will come out with resistance.  If it doesn't work, flip the up/down and try again.  Then you can easily remove the glides from the cabinet and board.  To remove the glide from the cabinet, you have to slide the ball bearing section around to expose the screws.

Not intending to promote my sales, but are you thinking of a drawer like THIS?  Someone here, maybe it was Barry-Sue, came up with the idea.  It is a quick remedy for extra storage, but a custom made drawer for that position could be made bigger yet.

If your Mr. is up to a challenge, he could attempt what I did in the end which nearly doubled our galley cabinet storage drawer space HERE.  Some was gained in the obvious places such as eliminating the center style, drawer walls, and glides, but most was gained in the depth to the back wall.
27  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: "After market" HWH Levelers on: September 15, 2016, 10:19:57 am
........ we used the Anderson Levelers on it  I think this is the way we will go if the PC we buy doesn't have HWH Levelers. 

=J & S=

I really love the simplicity of the Anderson Levelers, but I don't think they will be compatible on PCs.  I say this because the rear mud flaps and the flapping-action-eliminator bracket behind them will hang up on the Anderson product.  If you remove or replace the mud flaps with something that doesn't interfere, I think the rear tail pipe on the passenger side will be the next interference.  Still I would love to try them and see.  I would think they will work well for the front tires.

Thanks for sharing!
28  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: "After market" HWH Levelers on: September 14, 2016, 11:46:59 pm
Hi Jeff and Suzanne,

As others have stated, the levelers are added after Phoenix is 100% done with the rig.  So you can go anytime to get the levelers installed without consequences, even many years later.  We've had our PC 9 years now and still I have yet to get them installed.  Once I figure out the winning lottery numbers, I'll run to Stuarts for levelers. Smile

In all seriousness, we have been doing well without them, not sure I'd ever get them installed, primarily to keep the overall weight down.  I hear the levelers weigh 400 pounds.  Our 2350 had gotten to the max weight on one trip.  If we had levelers, we'd be overweight by 400 pounds.  The levelers also seem to be finicky for some owners, not exactly guaranteed trouble-free.  You might consider trying life without them to see how much you need them.  Maybe you will conclude the same as some others.  It seems a 50/50 split of PC owners as to them being a "Must Have" feature.
29  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 14, 2016, 11:33:38 pm

I understood the spare tire has always been an option along with many other things.

At least for my 2016 2351 the spare tire is one of the included Exterior Features that is listed in the brochure and not one of the "Popular Options" that if selected there is a corresponding charge.

Not addressing newer models because of the new back cap.
Hi John,

That quote of mine in blue is concerning Ford's option list to the RV manufactures when they order a cut-away chassis from Ford to build their motor home on top of.   I was not referring to the option list Phoenix presents to us it's customers.  There are two different option lists of which you are referencing the "Other" list.  As a general rule, consumers don't specify the options from Ford.  That is Phoenix's decision.

Just trying to clear up any possible confusion.

Maybe we will soon see the spare tire in the back wall stated in the PC pricing list as an option to select.

30  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2016 - 2351 Options and Modifications on: September 14, 2016, 11:18:33 pm
Polish Price George & Jill,

I have been meaning to tell you that I really love your extra wide kitchen drawers.  If we had them, that would have saved me a pile of work in making the standard ones 85% bigger in our 2350 HERE.

Ron Dittmer
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