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1501  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 with a dinette? on: April 15, 2013, 09:15:18 pm
Mike,

We own a 2007 2350 with the dinette "WITHOUT" a slideout.  A slideout makes the dinette much smaller & confining.  Ours is much larger with more leg room and a larger table.

There are very few pictures of dinettes in PCs.  Even fewer when there is NO slideout.  CLICK HERE to see our dinette.  There are a few things to note when looking at my slideshow.

- Note the larger cabinets above the dinette. No slideout makes for larger cabinets.
- Note the lack of a step-up as would be with a dinette in a slideout.  The step-up makes for a bump in the head when getting in and out.
- Note the backrest of our front bench is a little smaller.  This is because that bench sits closer to the driver seat than if in a slideout.  It utilizes the area of the angled wall, hence a little smaller.  The driver seat still has full travel with some reclining.  The smaller backrest is not missed, even with 4 people sitting.
- Note that with no slideout, your dinette gets bigger yet because there is no lost wall space taken by the 4" thick walls (the moving wood trim) of the slideout.
- Note our table posts.  Now PC-USA does something better, a single leg at the table end.  I have given thought to convert ours to the new design to improve our leg room.
- Other benefits to our decision is 400 pounds less weight, less air leaking, less noise, no bugs, more comfortable commuting, lower purchase price.

I agree with Sue of Barry-Sue, our rear corner double bed is not ideal.  But we manage well at age 55 so far.  Unless you are very nimble, I can't recommend a 2350.  If our garage could accomodate something longer, I would consider something else with a double/queen rear bed.  If a PC, that would mean something custom made.  They used to make a long rear twin bed model that I thought would make for a nice walk-around or walk over double/queen bed.

Hey, there is a low mileage 2008 walk-around double bed model 2700 on ebay right now.
1502  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Skin Care for our Cruiser on: April 15, 2013, 09:01:45 pm
BandD, Your profile says white over blue.  That means your aero-cap is not painted, just raw get-coat fiberglass.  My first motor home was 100% gel-coat fiberglass.  Once the chaulkiness starts, it is hard to keep under control.  I tried so many different products, the best lasting a year or so.  On RV.net, there was some discussion about this.  There was general agreement that one particular product was a clear winner.  I did a quick search but could not find that thread.

When it came time to replace the old motor home, I thought I'd spend the money for full body paint to rid myself of that cosmetic maintenance.  So far so good.  But our PC is garaged kept......like our old rig was.  The full body paint of the PC does make for easier waxing and such.
1503  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shake down trip on: April 11, 2013, 12:00:28 pm
...curious,, wonder if I should sanitize in the fall when getting ready to store for winter and not flush out the tanks just drain, that way the left over water would have some bleach in it....

I would NOT leave any bleach residue in the system long term.  If any bleach solution evaporates in the system, the bleach will crystalize into a hard crusty material similar looking to salt crystals.  I don't know how quick it disolves once in contact with water again.  When filling up with fresh water later in the year, it could take too much time for the bleach crystals to disolve.  They could travel around and become an abrasive in your fresh water system which could be hard on the pump, valves, and plumbing fixtures.

I also heard that bleach is hard on some of the rubber seals, like the toilet and waste valves for example.  I do put some bleach into my toilet which whitens it up beautifully.  But I don't expose it longer than neccessary, just long enough, then I flush it multiple times.
1504  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shake down trip on: April 10, 2013, 04:07:42 pm
No, No, No...Silly.  They drink they wine so that the smell of the bleach doesn't bother them so bad.  Wink
That girl has us figured out. Smile
1505  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Shake down trip on: April 10, 2013, 01:34:21 pm
Sounds great.

You will surely want to disinfect the fresh water system before consuming any on-board water.

Before the start of a new season, I add a 1/2 gallon of bleach (much more than recommended) to the fresh water holding tank and then fill with water to over-flowing, run the on-board pump, open all faucets, and get the bleach solution throughout all pipes and fixtures.  Close up everything and let the bleach solution do it's thing for an hour.  Then drain and flush multiple times.  Since much of the bleach ends up in the holding tanks, I flush them too as I hear the bleach can be hard on tank valves.  Where we live, I can simply drain all tanks into a culvert next to the driveway.

During the first days of our trip following, we smell a litttle chlorene in the water so we boil it out when cooking, and drink bottled water.  The smell reminds me of Chicago water.  Better to smell a little chlorene than to get sick from the water.

If your fresh water tank is like ours, you can't completely drain the fresh water tank because the drain valve is on the side by the bottom rather than on the bottom.  It leaves less than an inch of water.  I park on an incline at home so the water rushes to the drain valve.  It gets much more bleach solution out that way.
1506  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Changing of the Guard on: April 09, 2013, 11:31:26 pm
Earl is my father
I "Love" it!
1507  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Changing of the Guard on: April 09, 2013, 08:56:52 pm
Welcome Welcome Welcome

Welcome  Welcome Aboard Earl  Welcome

Welcome Welcome Welcome

We look forward to working together with customer referrals and maybe more.
1508  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Storage of Phoenix Cruiser on: April 09, 2013, 11:29:07 am
I agree and support the idea of covering the rig to protect much more than paint.

I understand covers which do not fit properly can do abrasion damage from constant wind bashings.

A good fitting cover made of Tyvek sounds most interesting.  I have worked with Tyvek before.  That material is very impressive for resistance to tearing, it's a good water barrier, and it holds up well over time.  It is extremely light weight making it very easy to man-handle when covering a motor home.  I think the Tyvel covers sold are white, ideal for hot regions.

I would call Kermit and ask if he knows of a local company near him who can make a custom-fit cover for your model PC.  Kermit would much rather talk on the phone then answer emails.
1509  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Connector for the Door is missing to hold the door totally open on: April 08, 2013, 10:45:48 am
I should also mention that the newer door limiter prevents the door from hitting the awning pole when the awning is open.  Either awning design benefits from it.

With our older 2007 without the limiter, I rigged up a home made rope thingy which works adequately with a couple bungie cords to the awning pole or door mirror.  The only reason why I have not gone with the newer design is because it is essential to open the door 180 degrees while in our garage.

Here is my rope thingy, nice to have on windy days to maintain control if ripped away from your hands.  Good head clearence too when entering/exiting.  When the door is closed, the rope lays beautifully into a stored position.


Here is our rig in the garage.  With my Corvette parked next to the rig, between the car and the pole, my PC door needs to open 180 degrees.  It looks like it will hit the pole, but it is a near miss, a close 3".
1510  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I would consider it a personal favor... on: April 08, 2013, 08:13:16 am
So where is my lollipop?
Lollipop?  I didn't get a lollipop either.  Cry  After days and days...or was it weeks and weeks it took writing my 3 sentence testimony, I didn't get lollipop either.  Where's mine?

Oh wait...I got something better.
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1511  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Connector for the Door is missing to hold the door totally open on: April 07, 2013, 10:51:45 pm
You might also consider the door opener used on newer models.  I think it opens just past 90 degrees and stays there.
1512  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 05, 2013, 12:30:38 pm
.....the owner said his was one of the chassis where Ford added front sway bars if that's the right term......
Actually he got it backwards.  In 2008, Ford added a "Rear" sway bar to the E350 chassis on that PC-2100.  The front bar has always been.  Hopefully the smaller diameter Ford bars will be enough for satisfied handling.

I look forward to your report Gail.  Well wishes!
I got an email from Gail last night.  She bought that 2008 2100, I think on the road heading home with it today.

Congratulations Gail!
1513  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Any rear end drag problems with 218' wheelbase? on: April 03, 2013, 01:56:32 pm
Interesting!  For our PC2350 on 2007 E350, it made a world of difference....worth every penny.

There are many influential factors which changes opinion dramatically from one owner to another.
1514  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Any rear end drag problems with 218' wheelbase? on: April 03, 2013, 10:00:32 am
The longer wheelbase I think is the biggest asset to better handling.
In total agreement.  I wonder if the suspension upgrades always discussed (HD stabilizer bars and all) would change "Good Handling" into "Great Handling".  Has anyone with longer PCs (say a 2700 and longer) done such upgrading?  It would be interesting to read your thought on your experience.
1515  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 02, 2013, 11:50:34 pm
BTW, I like what you did with the kitchen drawers, I may look into that as well. I've already used some of your ideas like making the third chair a captains chair, it will be put to good use when my grand-daughter starts camping with me.
Thanks for the compliment but I can't take any credit for the 3rd captain chair idea.  I am so bad remembering people's names, but it was another member here who special ordered his PC-2350 with the captain seat instead of a barrel chair at the time.  I love our captain seat, not just for our own relaxation, but very nice and safe for a 3rd passenger.  They sit higher yet still able to look out the front window fairly well by reclining a bit.

I think I can take credit on the galley drawer modification as I have not heard of anyone else ever discussing it.  Smile
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