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1516  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 Rear Storage on: May 12, 2012, 12:50:25 am
Our 2350 is 5 years old.  PC-USA has made some variations since the 2007 model year.
- mounted a drawer in the lower open area
- subwoofer inside the compartment or not
- water tank mounted against rear bumper, or more forward which shifts the storage compartment forward/rearward

I also wonder if there is a design variation between 2012 slide out and non-slide out models.  It seems when you get a slide out, the furnace is mounted under the bed.  If you don't have a slide out, the furnace might still be mounted under the fridge.  It has to do with the fridge being in the slide out.

Replies from people with 2012 2350 models should be clear about which they have.
1517  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 11, 2012, 06:24:25 pm
You will surely want to size one up for yourself before putting down any money.

I now understand better, why the desire for a low window there.  You'd want it to be clear glass as well because the PC glass is so dark, you cannot see inside unless at very close range.
1518  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 11, 2012, 04:54:54 pm
With the talk of cords, during the research I've done so far the vast majorty have said that with 30 amp you have to watch what you use, and with 50 amp you can run most anything you want. I have seen the only way to get 50 amp on a PC is to get another ac unit, have ya'll found that 30 is ok or do you wish you had the 50 ?

There is so much we would like to have added to the one we will order, one thing that would be nice is a small window in the lower half of the door.....

Another question, have anyone that has used the "stinky slinky" found out that you needed a longer hose at any time?
It is NOT recommended to run the a/c when using a 30 amp extension cord, let alone two of them.

On rare occasion, running both the a/c and microwave, along with brewing a pot of coffee and using a hair blow dryer, can trip a breaker or the safety on the generator.  Even so, I think 30 amp is adequate for 99% of the time.  50 amp seems a bit much.  Just be aware of what's running before you amp up something serious.

About a lower window in the door.  My only concern would be the lack of privacy.  Maybe window blinds will work there.  It seems feasible.  PC-USA could answer that best.

Your height of 6'2" has me concerned for your head clearence to the a/c unit.  Have you walked around inside a PC yet with your shoes on?

Stinky Slinky?  No need for one of those with a PC.  No place to store one outside either.  The Sani-Con will serve you well and it's purge hose gets really, really long under pressure.  Don't worry about that one.

The only time a Stinky Slinky has value with a PC would be if staying in one place for weeks at a time.  You might want to setup for continuous drain-out.  I bought a Rhino sewer hose and an outdoor storage tube but yet to install it as the need has not yet arisen.  I got ahead of myself on that one.

Rhino Sewer Hose


Storage Tube
1519  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 11, 2012, 03:32:28 pm
We then went to the 2350 with the rear corner bed-thought we could deal with that. Not so! For us, the twin beds is the way to go.....
It seems most PC owners on this forum who initially owned a 2350, make the switch to a 2551 or something larger to rid themselves of the challenges with the rear corner double bed.  Anyone new here who is considering a 2350 should study the bed closely before buying the motor home because the odds here say you'll be switching.

My wife and I are the exception with our 2350.  We would have much more trouble shaking hands good night to eachother from across the isle, than dealing with our rear corner bed.  The compromise pictured above is an interesting alternative.
1520  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 11, 2012, 03:21:54 pm
I am not sure why you would need two 25' electrical extension cords in addition to the one with the coach.  I have been RVing since 1964 and have never had a need for anything but the cord with the coach.  That is an expensive buy if you never use them.  Maybe Ron could help on why he recommends them.
We usually camp in primitive camp grounds where electric is either non-existent, is limited to just a few sites or sometimes set far back for sharing sites.  Admittedly we most often don't need any extension, but the rare time we do, it is great to have.

On rare occasion when those few electric sites are taken, we'll camp next to an occupied electric site and use the extensions to get power to charge our batteries and use the microwave......as long as an electric outlet is available.  We would never inconvenience the occupant, always asking before using.  Many people are more than happy to share when electric is scarce.

It is disappointing when you are 10' short of cord, resorting to using the generator, sometimes working within generator rules & restrictions.

As gl1500 says, 30 amp cords can be very expensive, around $125 each, but I found our 30 amp extension cords on clearence for $25 each.  With patience, you may as well.  Usually they are found on clearence at the tail end of the RVing season.
1521  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 11, 2012, 12:10:21 pm
You will get a lot of great input on options to consider, and such.

I got these items from Walmart, some found in their automotive-RV section

- Two 25' long 30amp extension cords (but don't use both with the a/c, a electrical safety concern)
- Two fresh water hoses (the white ones)
- A "Y" hose adapter with shut-offs
- A 2'x4' folding table that stores nicely in the rear compartment (when taking out those silly eyelets with bungie cords)
- Get a tool box and set yourself up with a nice set of tools and small supplies like fuses, hardware, etc.

About the rear ladder and roof rack.  It was our decision to get the ladder and rack but not mounted, just storing them at home.  5 years later and still no regrets about that decision.  But it is not a popular decision.  I figure if I ever changed my mind, I could still mount them.  But not so if doing it in reverse.

I wished we had the factory add a separate outdoor light switch with an extra light on each side and rear so we could light up the campsite in all directions when needed.

Also to have two porch lights, one one each end under the awning.  One light makes too much shadow.  If two lights is too bright, put in lower wattage bulbs.

If the one porch light today was mounted on the opposite side of the entry door, less bugs would get inside.  That would work well with the two light setup.
1522  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Electrical mystery - kitchen electric outlet has moods on: May 10, 2012, 10:04:34 pm
That is very wierd.  I would first start by killing the power to that outlet, remove it's cover plate and inspect the connections.  If all is well, then.........
1523  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Post delivery inspection on: May 10, 2012, 09:36:13 pm
Amen x2.

That pretty much summed up our At-Home inspection 5 years ago.  Nothing concerning or disappointing with workmanship and quality.

I do have to say that our 2007 2350 handled poorly when loaded up on our maiden voyage with tow vehicle.  I think the aspect ratio of the 2350 wheel base to it's rear over-hang is much worse than the 3100.  The following year in 2008 Ford equipped all E350 cut-away RV chassis with a rear sway bar so I think our 2007 was one of the last with no rear sway bar of any kind.  Also, in more recent years PC-USA relocated the 2350's fresh water tank more forward which reduces that heavy rear over-hang condition.  Our fresh water tank is against the rear wall.  When our fresh water tank was filled, that was when the condition was at it's worst.  But we addressed all such issues with aftermarket suspension upgrades since mile #800 on our odometer.  It was worth the $3,900 extra investment to make it "Tops".  Since then, our PC handles much better than my daily commute vehicle.

ragoodsp, it is probably my "poor handling" posts that you recall.

Congrats again!  Glad all is well.

Oh....one more thing.  I don't know if this holds true to today, but our dark cherry cabinetry had haze spots where putty was used to hipe some staples.  A damp wipe-down removed all that haze, looking so much better.  It was very simple, fast and easy to do.
1524  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Trip to Elkhart on: May 10, 2012, 09:25:10 pm
Why not have the factory do it? They can use the same flooring as the rest of the PC. Just need to call them and ask.
100% in agreement!
1525  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inverter on: May 10, 2012, 09:17:20 pm
Geojude,

So you have an inverter in your 2006.  I know it became standard in 2007.  Maybe it was an option in 2006, and you have that option.  Good for you.

Apparently there were a number of different brands used in PCs.  We have a 2000 watt Tripp-Lite inverter, mounted behind the cabinet door with the fancy bronze grille.  It was sealed with hindges on both sides.  We removed one side of hindges and placed a latch & door handle for easy access.  I understand why PC sealed it....for child safety.  You don't want curious kids in there where they could get electricuted.  If we have grand kids one day, I'll have to get a child safety latch for it.
1526  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Floor mats on: May 10, 2012, 09:06:18 pm
eBay.
Yep.

We bought brand new in the package original Ford mats, same color as our Ford interior.  Cheap too.  It's been a while but I want to say $45 with shipping included, about 4-5 years ago..
1527  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 10, 2012, 09:00:38 pm
Maybe the entire bed-cabinet can move with the one bed.
1528  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Still here on: May 10, 2012, 04:27:50 pm
Supporting Billy's comment.  I think the factory can accomodate Gary's request with a motorized fold-down couch on one side that can mate up to the bed across the isle to make a King size bed.

Maybe they can make one single bed on casters that can roll over and latch up to the other single to turn the two single beds into one double/queen bed.  Better than we experience on cruise ships.
1529  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Trip to Elkhart on: May 10, 2012, 09:07:28 am
Looking at the pictures of the current 2100, they show small door where Ron is talking about having one put, I guess it is what he is talking about.
Tom, I had to look for myself, and you are right.  PC is already doing that.  I see it's a very tiny door because of the outside transition wall.
Never mind me.


1530  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Trip to Elkhart on: May 10, 2012, 12:12:29 am
It sounds great.

I hesitate to suggest anything from our experience of 5 years ago because PC made changes over the years.

But.....Since you have the dinette.....  You might want to consider this.

More dense foam for the bench dinette.  Our foam was never dense enough, even when brand new.  Our butts get too close to bottoming out on the wooden bench.  When I shift my weight on the seat, I feel the board.  I am 180 pounds.

Leather dinette surfaces instead of cloth.  Won't wrinkle or bunch up when slouching or when sliding in and out.  The cloth does, especially with the softer foam.

I wished we had an outside access door to our front dinette bench seat storage.  I store heavy outside use items in my front bench seat to help balance the load better and wish I could get to those items without disturbing the interior.  The side bench cabinet doors are good for the stuff close to the door, but deep inside I have to remove the cushions to get to them.  Your front dinette bench likely will be outfitted with a huge drawer which will provide easy access to everything inside but limits storage volume significantly.  Given your dinette is on the right side of the motor home with the awning, having outside access to that huge storage compartment (without drawer) would be extremely convenient.

I would inquire if a lockable outdoor storage door could be added there, and leave out that front bench drawer.

Just some ideas.

A separate porch light (one on each of the 3 sides) on their own shared switch is a big wish of mine for years now.  If I had only thought of that 5 years ago when we ordered ours.  I was going to add them myself but it would have required too much interior damage to retro-fit them.  I bought the lights and switch and all, then decided against it.

For some reason the 2100 always suffered from a sagging rear end.  The 2350 does too but not as much.  I would ask if the factory could install adjustable rear air bags to lift the back end up to level on demand, especially important when loaded up for a trip.
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