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1531  Main Forum / General Discussion / Using Back-Up Lights For Other Purposes on: April 03, 2011, 10:56:19 pm
I am thinking of installing a weather/water proof switch outside to manually turn on my PC backup lights.  The switch would be mounted upside-down, next to the light that illuminates the license plate.  This way I have easy access to white light when hooking and unhooking my tow vehicle after dark, and also for quick temporary convenience lighting behind the motor home when putting camp site things away after dark.

Currently when dealing with the tow after dark, the only real convenient white light is the tow vehicle headlights, but they blind me given they are high, inches from my head, and basically shinning in the wrong direction.  Holding a flashlight under my arm or a small one in my mouth while working the hardware just is not practical.  I tried a strap-on-head LED light once, but it is not ideal.  The RV backup lights are low enough from my face, the right brightness, and perfectly positioned to light up the work area properly.  A switch next to the license plate light seems the perfect location.

I am currently investigating a good well sealed switch, and also will be discussing with Kermit if there are any concerns electrically.  The modification should theoretically take under one hour, maybe even less than 1/2 hour.  Constant 12V power is right there at the tow connector.  I was under the rear of my PC today and everything is very easy to access from behind the bumper.

ADDING:  I found the ideal switch HERE but with shipping, it is $37.50

Looking at my PC's tow bar folded up in the picture, you see the backup lights relative to the tow bar.
1532  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: lights on the running board on: April 03, 2011, 07:22:56 pm
...while I was charging the battery that those (running board) lights stayed on. I replace it or do I keep it (the battery) and hope it stays charged all summer?

Your rig might be fine.  I say this because I seem to recall the same thing happening to me.  On my 2007 Ford E350, I can turn the headlight/parking switch to the right to a "Click", then turn off the interior lighting (the spot lights above the windshield) individually with their independant switches.  But doing that leaves those running board lights on all the time.

If you have the older style dash board of the Ford 2008 chassis on back, you have that same headlight switch as me.  If you have the newer style dash board starting in the Ford 2009 chassis year, then you have a different design, but possibly the same interior light switch setting, set to the "On" position.

Your 2009 Phoenix Cruiser might have been built on a 2008 chassis.  It is very common for all RV manufactures to do that.  So don't get confused about model year of your chassis compared to model year of your motor home.

Since your battery was "Slow Drained" and assuming the battery did not freeze, a slow charge should bring it back to a good state.  If I am wrong, that is what the "Jump Start" switch is for.....that spring loaded switch by the driver's left knee.
1533  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Headlights on: April 03, 2011, 06:46:56 am
Got it!

1534  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Headlights on: April 02, 2011, 10:12:51 pm
Thanks for the reminder and the note on "ease of doing it".  Any special tools required?
1535  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: lights on the running board on: April 02, 2011, 10:11:55 pm
My 2007 2350 has the same.  I hate timed lights on my vehicles but marketeers says it's what the people want.
1536  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Headlights on: April 02, 2011, 06:19:07 pm
I really should do that this year.  Year #4 and still have not done it. shrug
1537  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 For Two on: April 02, 2011, 01:34:39 pm
Not neccessarily on a PC, but some RVs have the entire kitchen in a slide which means electrical wiring, propane line, hot and cold water and even the sink drain, all move with the slideout.  The RV industry has been doing that for a very long time so I would hope any issues were addressed long ago.  But for me with my ultra-conservative-ness, not having any slide is more comfortable than the extra floor space.  I can handle my batteries in a drawer, but not much more than that.
1538  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 For Two on: March 31, 2011, 04:49:43 pm
We absolutely love the 2551. As I have said before, if we knew that there was a 2552 option when we placed our order we would have gone with the 2552 for the extra chair.
Considering you have the two comfy captain dinette seats, why the desire for a 3rd seat?  A guest?
1539  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 For Two on: March 31, 2011, 02:25:44 pm
I would think the cutting board would be more useful with a large slideout (the fridge in the slide) where you still have room to get past it.  The earlier design with the sofa-only slideout and also the NO slideout like we have, the cutting board nearly cuts off access to the back half of the motor home.  So it always gets pushed in.  At that point, a utensil drawer would have greater value.
1540  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 For Two on: March 30, 2011, 08:33:18 am
I have to ask about the hanging wine goblets.  Will they get crushed when the table folds down?
1541  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2551 For Two on: March 29, 2011, 08:37:05 pm
I Love it.....I Really LOVE It all.  Great work.

You got me thinking about the cutting board.  I'll have to share that with my wife.
1542  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: storage solutions on: March 28, 2011, 07:50:24 pm
I have to disagree with Ron in this case.
So there you have it, polar opposite opinions.  Cry
1543  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Ladder Leak on: March 28, 2011, 05:22:25 pm
Sorry for that lame joke.  I never meant to imply it's a bad idea to have a ladder and rack.  It's just not for least not just yet.  I came from a different mold than most.

I do have my roof rack and ladder stored in my "other" house in case I ever change my mind.

DJM, that was funny......hiding up top to get away.
1544  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: storage solutions on: March 28, 2011, 04:55:46 pm
Thanks all:

Ron: I do have my jeep liberty set up for towing, however I would rather not tow that if I could.  This trip is going to be 3 weeks and a few days and a lot of our stops are going to be hit and go, so I think I can do with out the toad.  Besides it will save on fuel.  David
With our 2007 2350 towing our Jeep Liberty 4000 miles from Chicago to Jasper Alberta and back at around 70mph, we averaged 9.2mpg.  You towing the same, should see better if you slow down to 60-65mph max, even considering the extra weight of 4 people.

Leaving your Liberty home will force you to drive the PC 100% of the time.  Your average fuel economy will drop like a tank given every move will be on roads less than ideal for a motor home.  Between all the steep grades, very slow winding curves at various speed, and even some traffic, you'll be doing worse over-all compared to the fuel lost in towing your Liberty.  Your kids won't see much either from the "limited view" of the PC windows.  I advise to tow the Liberty to benefit of storage, mobiity, child sight-seeing views, and combined fuel savings.  Not fuel loss.

We do on-the-go vacationing all the time, often staying in places a night or two, so I understand your comment of "hit and go".  But the tow vehicle "STILL" makes it work so much better.  Your first primitive road with limited vehicle length and you'll be saying...."Why did we leave the Liberty home?"  Also your kids will be saying....."What Buffalo?  We can't see anything from back here!"

Regardless of your decision, keep close track of your fuel consumption averaged from the entire trip and see how you did.  You only need to write down the starting odometer reading at home with a full tank of gas, write down the gallons to the 10th gallon purchased thereafter.  Then once back home, fill up one last time and right down the mileage again.  Calculate from there.  It wil provide an extremely accuate figure.
1545  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Ladder Leak on: March 28, 2011, 01:19:13 pm
I don't have that problem.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.   Smile
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