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1531  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Metal on metal rattle on: March 15, 2011, 03:54:55 pm
You should let Kermit (the owner of Phoenix USA) know this.  He needs to tell the fellow of that process to watch out for this.  Call the factory and ask for him.  Don't be shy.  He loves phone call input.
1532  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gas Mileage on 2551/2552 on: March 15, 2011, 03:48:54 pm
Thanks for the data!  It sure seems smart to get one of these for oh so many good reasons.  Now to figure out where the best place to mount this thing.  Up high, down low, I'll have to give this some thought.  I sure wouldn't want to mount it in poor taste, yet still in plain view.
1533  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof cracks on: March 15, 2011, 12:49:54 pm
Wow, I too am sorry to hear of all those issues.  I wonder how much of that could be related to the time of year it was manufactured.  Still, it should not be so.

I can relate to the exterior compartment latch issue as well.  I simply place my left hand next to the lock, then jerk my body weight there while turning the key with my other hand, all in a quick moment.  I thought that was a good thing to get a tighter pressure fit for a better seal and prevent rattling.

About rust.  I do wonder what my 2007 model year unit would look like if it was exposed to any salt spray from winter driving.  We intentionally ordered ours for production in June of 2007 to assure no salt exposure, and have none to this day, so ours still looks great.  I did notice when crawling under the RV, the main entry door step housing is rusting on the back side.  I was thinking of painting it.  The brake calipers and disks are steel and they too have a rusty color to them.  But the rest of the undercarriage looks good.

I read now and then on of other people who bought other "NEW" motor homes of different brands, having great rust concerns.  I wonder what's going on there.
1534  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gas Mileage on 2551/2552 on: March 14, 2011, 08:08:23 pm
The X-Guage software upgrade with a new scan guage purchase, mentioned monitering the trans fluid.  I think it would be good to call them, give them your exact year and model chassis.  Maybe they'll have a hard fact answer for you.

Report back here too as I too would like to know for my 2007 E350-V10
1535  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gas Mileage on 2551/2552 on: March 14, 2011, 12:17:35 pm
I would like to know how your gas mileage is calculated.

- By a tank full, here and there?
- Averaged over thousands of miles?
- With one of those electronic scan guage devises?

I have been thinking of buying THIS Scan Guage-II and wonder how accurate it's MPG averaging is.  It seems it would help with real time mpg to assist in determining optimal speed for best fuel economy, under all varying conditions.  It also monitors much more than fuel.

This references it's size.
1536  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Gas Mileage on 2551/2552 on: March 12, 2011, 10:39:17 pm
For your reference, our 2007 2350 E350-V10 averages between 9.2 to 9.5mpg.
- Always towing a vehicle
- Alway 5mph over posted speed limit for towing
- Calculated over a 4000 and a 5000 mile journey, from the time we left home to the time we returned.
- 50% of the time, we use cruise control

You know how it is.....we always seem to be driving into the wind as the praire grass is always leaning in the opposite direction.   Cry  I wish Murphey would ride with the people on the other side of the highway for a change.
1537  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What Portable Gas Grill Do You Carry Along? on: March 12, 2011, 12:50:39 pm
Yes the Coleman seems to be the best for storage reasons which is one reason why we selected it.  It seems to offer the same general benefit as the Baby-Q, but we have not yet used it so we cannot confirm it's claim to "even-heat" cooking.  The dome lid does make it possible to consider cooking a small chicken.  Again we have Zero experience with it to-date.
1538  Main Forum / General Discussion / What Portable Gas Grill Do You Carry Along? on: March 11, 2011, 03:49:47 pm
We've had two grills over the years, both of this type which had un-even cooking.  We added those ceramic briquets which helped, but never really solved the problem.  Their only advantage was the easy-to-store size.

My wife said enough is enough.  Now that we have the PC2350 with nice basement storage, she found THIS COLEMAN GAS GRILL on clearance at Menards for $75.00, regularly $150.  To be honest, it's hard to believe this originally cost $150.  But it does have a circular tubular stainless steel burner to provide more even heating, and a cast iron cooking grate.  It also fits well in our PC2350 basement.  Now I have to find the perfect box to store it in.

I'd love to read what you all use.  Please include website pics like I did.
1539  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: A few changes on: March 11, 2011, 07:59:06 am
You did good in making extra storage using closet organizing shelving.  I would not have thought of that.  It seems to do a great job too with the front lip.  Great work there Billy!

My 2007 was the last year of the exterior storage without drawers so I cannot relate to the issue you resolved there.  You might want to share that with the factory.  If they find that to be a chronic problem, they may implement your resolution into the next model year.  

Phoenix does learn & apply from owner input.  Each year gets a little better, some based on owner input to problem resolution, to interesting features and upgrades.  For example the 26" widescreeen TV was introduced in 2009 after I sent Kermit pics of the 26" Samsung I installed in my 2007, saying "It's made for the PC.  You've Got to get this TV in your PCs.  They went out and bought 26" Samsungs and featured it in the next model year.

The 26" Samsung TV I installed in my 2007

The 26" Samsung TV in a 2009

So I strongly advise everyone share what they have done with the factory.  Some things they will easily consider, others by popular demand.

I wish they would implement the water pressure tank.  Everyone who has installed one, finds it quite remarkable, changing the entire feel of RV opperations.  If you can't stand the loud on/off, on/off moaning and groaning of your water pump, this is the solution.

Here is my low cost home-made version.  I wasn't sure what to expect so I didn't want to invest heavy.  Now that I know better, I wished I bought the one below.

A Cleaner But Much More Expensive Installation.  The Pump Mounts On Top To Further Reduce Pump Noise & Saves Floor Space
1540  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Accumulator Tank on: March 10, 2011, 10:40:37 pm
I'm glad it all worked out well for you Larry.  It really does make a huge difference for the better.
1541  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Newer Ford Center Console For 2007-2008 on: March 09, 2011, 12:25:51 pm
I just got off the phone with Kermit, so here is the scoop for us with any Ford chassis older than a 2009, who would like to consider having the newest center console.

Our old style 4-cup holder design is interchangable with the latest 2-cup & lots of storage design.  Kermit mounted a 2011 onto a dark gray 2006 and said it is a perfect fit.  There are number of unrelated issues outlined here.
1) A newer tan color is likely NOT the same shade as the older tan color of the 2007 and 2008 model years (but it might be a good compliment)
2) The cost of a new tan console is $184 direct from Ford
3) Cost of adding the wood grain is $64 (this is a dipping process done at a supplier of Phoenix)
4) Total cost including shipping would be around $264 (that is a lot for a nicer console)

For you with the 2006 or older dark gray console, you have it much easier and cheaper because you can buy a new console off eBay $50, have it shipped from the eBay seller direct to Phoenix USA, and Kermit will send it out for dipping the woodgrain $64, and then ship it to you $16.

I will see if I can find a tan console in a local junk yard to reduce the $184 purchase price down I hope to around $40 or less.
1542  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Newer Ford Center Console For 2007-2008 on: March 08, 2011, 02:46:26 pm
Ron, in the very upper left corner of the console there is a small round (holder) of sorts, has a lid and inside a small protrusion. Do you know what this is?
It is an ashtray.

Share those pics once your work is done!
1543  Main Forum / General Discussion / Newer Ford Center Console For 2007-2008 on: March 08, 2011, 10:09:39 am
Looking at the new 2009-2011 Ford chassis interiors on PhoenixUSA's website, I really like the improvements Ford made with the center console cup-holder & storage.  My 2007 has the older design with 4 cup holders but no top trays.  The newer design has 2 cup holders and very nice top trays and also has an extra side bin by the passenger.  I'd really want that new console for my 2007, but I first need some questions answered.

1) Are the two center console designs interchangeable?  I think they are.
2) Is the main tan color of the newer Ford design, the same as the older 2007-2008 design?  I think it is.
3) If #1 and #2 are "YES" will PhoenixUSA sell me a cherry finish center console?  I hope so.

I emailed the factory and am waiting for their reply.

For you with a Ford chassis older than a 2007, you have the dark gray console, right?  You can buy dark gray with black top tray areas for around $50 on ebay.  They are new take-offs.

Here is my older 2007 design.

Here is the newer 2009-2011 design.
1544  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Nova Scotia on: March 07, 2011, 05:39:01 am
My brother and his wife ferried through lower Alaska with their 21 foot Starflyte.  They had a rear hitch rack.  The rack came off to save big by-the-foot money.

Another problem they were faced with regularly was the difference in height between the pier and the ferry.  Pending tidal conditions, the angle of approach had them scraping the rear of the motor home, doing damage to things more than once.  You might want to invest in those rear end protecting wheel thingies to prevent damage to things like your mascerator pump.
1545  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Accumulator Tank on: March 07, 2011, 05:28:06 am
Email me direct at and I will send you the details and pictures of the "cheap" one I installed in my 2007 2350.  It works extremely well.

I understand there is a new type of pump that goes on and stays on while water is running, then shuts off when water is not.  It seems another good choice.  A couple PC owners have them.  Hopefully they will comment.

Regardless of which pump, most of the noise is related to "Direct Hook-Up Plumbing".  Having a flex-line between the pump and the RV plumbing significantly dampens the vibration sound, making the pump action very quiet.  The most common flex lines are the stainless steel braided type used to hook up house toilets and sinks.

Here are a some pictures of what I had done in 2007, working perfect to this very day.

Though nothing has ever been trouble with my $20 tank and installation, I kind-of wished I spent the money on an accumulator with feet for a cleaner installation.
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