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1576  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 12:48:20 pm
When it comes to owning a motor home, if you are not "handy", you are in big trouble because motor homes require a lot of hands-on attention.  Especially in the beginning when new, and then later after it has seen significant use.
1577  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 10:48:05 am
If you have access to compressed air, as others mentioned, try to blow air into the vent tube and also into the drain tube.  If you notice an immediate improvement, that means you blew out an obstruction.  If it returns, it means the obstruction found it's way back.  It could even be a piece of plastic that never completely broke away when the hole was drilled.  It could be hanging inside the tank right at the hole.  It could be flopping around, immediately returning to obstruct the hole.

Such little irritations do occur with most motor homes, Phoenix Cruisers and all the other brands.  Once we get past them, we generally do fine.  Sometimes we will look at what went wrong and say......."Come on guys.  It's not hard to do this right."  That's the price for non-automation, "hand crafted" products.  Still, a lot comes down to engineering & design, manufacturing processes, training, inspecting, and every worker taking great pride in their work.  Phoenix USA does much better than most, but obviously not so good when it comes to the fresh water tank that many here have similar stories with it.
1578  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tow bar alighnment on: August 08, 2011, 09:04:51 am

We tried to tow for the first time using the 6" riser.  I quickly learned the safety tow cables were too short, so we towed without the riser for this past weekend trip.  I need another foot in the cable length, so now I need to order two longer cables.  All the rest accomodated the extra bar length.

The spending never seems to end, and my 401k does not know which way is up.  I am doomed to work til I drop dead.

BTW:  I used the one anti-rattle hitch u-bolt thingy called "Quiet Hitch" and it made a huge improvement.  Thanks for the tip bobander.
1579  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Grant Grove, Kings Canyon Nat'l Park on: August 08, 2011, 08:50:25 am
I love Sequoia NP.  It's time for another visit as it has been maybe 16 years.  Yosemite too.

Nice pics there Billy!  Thanks for sharing.
1580  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 08, 2011, 08:45:50 am
I must have gotten lucky with mine as I can fill the tank with the hose full blast.  The drain valve also goes as fast as the diameter of the tube permits.  The water cooler style valve for the drain must be perfectly positioned for fast draining.  Any amount off-center, and it slows down a lot.

Interesting about the mold in the vent tube getting brought up.  We all need to be real good about bleaching our plumbing.  Especially with the hot & humid weather.

I've had my PC outside this summer while our college son is home for the summer, mudding and painting the inside of the garage, painting it white, for minimum wage as he could not find part time employment.  With the PC out all summer, inside the fridge, even with the fridge doors open a bit, a little mold formed on the aluminum fins, and little specs about the fridge interior.  It has me wondering what else is going on that I don't see.

I now have the PC parked close to the garage where it can be plugged in all the time.  I set the roof a/c to kick on when it gets real hot inside to remove moisture.  All windows and vents sealed tight.  All interior cabinet and bath doors and fridge are wide open too.  Dinette bench cushions placed to ventilate the bench storage.  It looks like the place is haunted.   LOL  I can once again smell the leather.   Heart Shower
1581  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Scenic Pictures With Our 2007 2350 on: August 07, 2011, 10:32:43 pm

You should have all pics.  I sent you the bridge picture 3 to 4 weeks ago.  Actually two to choose from.

Thanks for the compliment.
1582  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water tank issues on: August 07, 2011, 10:16:56 pm
I think you have 3 possible culprits

- vent tube is kinked or blocked  (I suspect this is your most likely problem)
- filler tube is kinked
- plastic debris is blocking the drain port (common to many brands of motor homes)

Access to all is done by unscrewing the rear section of the bed platform

You can first perform a simple test.  Put 10 gallons or so in the tank.  Drain the tank, getting the dribble action.  Then remove the filler cap.  If it suddenly flows fast, you have a blocked or kinked vent tube.
1583  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Scenic Pictures With Our 2007 2350 on: August 05, 2011, 12:12:49 pm
I found this old post and decided to awaken it.  So I added my PC pics, some from Adventure Anywhere, and others off my own website.
1584  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thinking About a Phoenix Cruiser on: August 02, 2011, 03:41:53 pm
Unfortunately, it is not a no-brainer decision.
1585  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thinking About a Phoenix Cruiser on: August 02, 2011, 10:49:43 am
That would be excellent data to have, but very few people actually drive their rig on a truck scale when on vacation with their rig loaded with full gas tank, propane, water, groceries, gear, clothing, and people.  I have not yet done that myself, but I plan to one day.  My rig weighs 9200 pounds according to the Phoenix USA sticker on the kitchen cabinet door.  I don't remember if that includes a full tank of gasoline or not.  Given it's just my wife and I traveling together, I estimate all the extra weight to be right around 1100 pounds.  Maybe I am adding the weight of 55 gallons of gas twice.

- 290 human body weight, my wife and I combined
- 340 fresh water, 40 gallons
- 330 gasoline, 55 gallons
- 140 everything else

1100 total added weight

9200 + 1100 = 10,300 pounds
2007 E350 chassis max weight is 11,500, so I have 1200 pounds of margin (maybe 330 more with gas added twice) which I consider to be comfortable.  Adding a 400-500 pound slideout would still be comfortable.

The 2011 E350 chassis is rated 12,500
The 2011 Spinter chassis is rated 11,030

Without more specifics, it appears a Sprinter with a slideout and two people will be right around the max capacity.
1586  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thinking About a Phoenix Cruiser on: August 02, 2011, 07:30:57 am
We own a 2007 2350 (non-Sprinter) floorplan, on an E350 chassis.  My wife will be the first to say the rear corner bed is not fun to get in and out from, but she tollerates the inconvenience.  Yes she is the one who sleeps by the window.  I do get out of bed for her to get out.  I too admit it is not ideal, but that would be my only negative comment on the floor plan.  For us twin beds would never work as we both demand to sleep together.  And besides, anything longer would not fit in our garage.

The rest of the layout works extremely well for us.  We do not have a slide-out and have no regrets about it.  The dinette is a nice size because of it.  With no slide-out, the furnace and other such appliances are mounted under the fridge and main closet.  That leaves the area under the bed more open to increased outdoor access storage of which I like a lot.  The no-slide dinette has larger cabinets over-head, and huge bench seat storage areas as compared to the couch in a slide-out with smaller over-head cabinets, and the couch has a drawer.  Given a slideout adds 400 to 500 pounds, that is something to think about if concerned of over-weighting a Sprinter.

We tow a Jeep Liberty 4x4 100% of the time which weighs 3800 pounds.  The E350/V10 handles it well.  Our 2350 fuel economy averaged for 5000 mile vacation was 9.2mpg with no consideration for gas generator usage.  I have no idea what the fuel economy would be if we did not tow anything, slowed down, and didn't always carry a full tank of fresh water.

If you decide to get a floorplan with a single barrel chair, I highly recommend you upgrade it to a 3rd captain chair as we did later on.

Click here to see our 2007 2350 with no slideout, and now with a 3rd captain chair.
1587  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery Corrosion on: July 31, 2011, 10:12:39 pm
Our 2007 2350 had a serious battery corrosion problem, exactly as Bob has described above.  It turned out one of the two batteries was not taking the charge as well as it should.  The ill battery had the charging system over-charging the pair, trying to get to them to a full charge.  Of coarse it never could, hence battery over-boil.  I replaced both batteries and I have not had any corrsion problems since.  Those metal strap clasps, battery terminals, and battery tray stay in good condition now.

I didn't realize I had a battery problem because the on-board charger never indicated a problem, and the RV functioned well..  I think I had that problem form during our first 3 week trip, but didn't figure it out untill well past the warranty period.

I bought the largest deep cycle batteries that Walmart sells.  They fit perfectly snug in the battery tray which makes the Tripp-Lite inverter's sensor wire with square tip, well wedged in-between.  The Walmart batteries also have a well engineered top where if there is an over-boil, it doesn't make a mess.  At least not right away.

Bob, I advise to take out both batteries and put them on a smart charger, one at a time.  You may find the one battery won't take a full charge.  At least that was my story.  BTW: I think the straps wick the acid to the clasp and hooks.
1588  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: July 29, 2011, 05:17:39 pm
Glad you made it without mishap or mechanical issues.
The only mechanical issue was getting a blowout on my bicycle, north of Traverse City on a paved bike path.  Yes we took the bikes along too, on the back of the Jeep.
1589  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: July 29, 2011, 02:37:09 pm
We spent 2 weeks traveling around Lake Michigan's shoreline in June and July this year.  We decided on this trip to significantly reduce miles to lower our fuel cost, compared to our cross-country trips from the Chicago area.  We never did this before, so it was a new experience for us.  We found MI state parks to be our favorite places to camp at, though we spent most of our daytime elsewhere.  We enjoyed light houses, golf, sight-seeing shorelines, and quiant shore-side towns.  We spent a little time in Traverse City during the Independance Day weekend for their Cherry Festival.  It was a much slower paced trip than we are accustom to which was also nice.  We did jump around in the Upper Penninsula to Lake Superior shores (light houses, Sault Ste Marie locks, Tahquamenon Falls )  We finished up at Pictured Rock National Lake Shore, then spent the last day from there heading back home to the Chicago area, via Wisconsin.

We pulled the Jeep on this trip and was very happy we did.  I think we put more miles on the Jeep than on the PC, and the Jeep's 4x4 capability came in handy one day in Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lake Shore.

I stumbled on this "Adventure Anywhere" picture opportunity in the rest area just north of Mackinac Bridge.  Taking the Jeep during the day, there were very few opportunities for pics of the PC with scenery.  One of these days, I'll have to update my Flickr site to post trip pics.

1590  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: inverter fan on: July 28, 2011, 11:41:13 am
Based on my older Tripp-Lite inverter, it sounds like the inverter is fine.  Our inverter fan will do the same when first turned on as long as there is no request for 110V.  As an experiment, plug in a 110V night light with the typical indoor Christmas tree size light bulb, and then turn on the inverter.  See if that night light stays on, and also observe the inverter fan.  The inverter fan might turn on and stay on only when significantly more power is requested, like running a coffee maker for example.  Also use the night light to check each outlet.

I do wonder if your TV is okay.  If it does not work, bypass the inverter and plug your TV directly to an external power source.  Also see if things change when running the generator.

The more you experiment with, the smarter of a discussion you can have with Kermit.

Good Luck there Billy
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