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1606  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Second Owner OUTSTANDING SERVICE on: January 19, 2011, 01:11:59 pm
So many of us have our own such experiences like mentioned above.  It adds more "peace of mind" in owning a Cruiser.  I'll share with non-Cruiser owners, this type of customer relations Phoenix USA has with PC owners, regardless of when & where they bought it, and how old it is.  But I wonder if those other people believe me.

I have a great respect in how Phoenix USA does business.  It's not all about business.
1607  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 17, 2011, 10:03:19 pm
Jerry,

Given we don't have a slideout, I cannot measure myself.  Get out your tape measure and see if my captain seat dimensions x2 below will work.

With armrests folded up, it measures 25.0" wide (the widest point).  1/2" less when folded down.  If ordered without armrests, it would measure 20.5" wide.  You will also need to consider some space in between, and also swiveling action if that is a requirement.  If you mount them on NON-swivel pedistal bases, maybe you could get enough dead space in between two seats to add a small dinette table.

What is the interior width open area of both the older and newer (with fridge) slide outs?
1608  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 17, 2011, 06:15:42 pm
If we had the earlier couch and it wasn't working for us, we would be looking at alternatives.  That has been my philosophy throughout the motorhome.  I do try to make changes that could pass as a factory installed feature.  Not home made looking.  If it's home made looking all the way, then I would try to make it reversible.  But so far so good.
1609  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 17, 2011, 10:31:52 am
As long as the modification can be reversed, I don't see a problem making the mod.  I would take a bunch of good pictures before the mods, kept in-case you sell.  You could then show both variations as a selling feature.  Give your buyer a choice, couch or captain seats.

In my particular case, I cannot see anyone ever thinking that barrel chair is preferred over the third captain seat.  I hope to sell the barrel chair, just to get it out of the house and recoupe $100.

If I was worried about resale, I would have included the slide-out option in our order.  But then the motor home wouldn't be what we wanted.

When selling any vehicle in general, if it does not look "owner modified", with good presentation, you should be successful.  I had a hobby of buying and selling Corvettes.  To be successful in getting the car's true value, it must look like it just came off the factory floor.  Internet pictures must be of high quality, showing every detail with proper lighting and all the rest.  Good pictures and good description will get the inquiries and eventually will make the sale happen.

It makes me smile when I see a used motor home for sale by owner with everything personal still inside the thing showing how "lived in" it is.  That is NOT good.  They really need to get 100% of their personal stuff out, clean it all up well, close the cabinet doors, fluff up the couch bolsters, open the blinds, lower the toilet seat, etc. etc. then take great pictures.  If they want to include personal stuff, place it all elsewhere, take pictures of it separately, and keep it all separate, especially when people come to see the motor home in person.  The goal is to make the buyer feel like they are buying a "Like New" motor home.
1610  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 Mods/Improvements /Captions on: January 17, 2011, 10:27:03 am
Bob,

About the wedding band thing.  I volunteer helping people in need through a CARS Ministry program at church.  So I am under the hood of many vehicles on a regular basis.  That band really needs to be taken off for the same reason.  I was careful those first 5 years, but the band did snag once in a great while which did get a little blood drawn.  Since our first born 27 years ago, the band comes off when doing work and when in bed.  My band somehow had always gotten caught on my wife and her bedtime attire in various ways of which I won't get into any detail about that.
1611  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 Mods/Improvements /Captions on: January 15, 2011, 07:29:15 pm
      Just curious Ron, why do you take off your wedding band at the end of the day.  In 46 years mine has only been off when I had open heart surgery and they would not let me leave it on.
I kept my wedding band on from the day I got married until the the day our first child was born which happened to be 5 years to the day of our wedding.  Once the hospital forced me to break that tradition, I had no trouble taking it off.  Somewhere along the way it came off nightly and "That's all I can say about that."  (quote from the movie.....).
1612  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: short wife on: January 15, 2011, 03:04:58 pm
My wife is 5'-2" and she does struggle.  She'll pull her cooking out from the micro to look in the pan.  Or I do the looking for her.

I would think another 4" will help a lot.  But if still no good, is there a place to store a cheap plastic one-step stool?
1613  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 15, 2011, 03:02:01 pm
If you prefer the 2552, it never hurts to ask the factory if you can change your model.  Maybe they are at a point where they can still equip your 2551 for general sales.  I think the 2552 is $3000 more according to Bob who bought one.
1614  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 15, 2011, 02:27:48 pm
Changing your old tri-fold sofa with a newer air-sofa or two front captain chairs, seem to be two practical choices.  Just be sure there is nothing else bolted to the floor there that would get in the way mounting something different.

For the record, here are the biggest width dimensions of my 2007 leather seats, supplied by Pauls Seating called Lexus, picture taken off Paul's website.
20.5" - measuring the widest part without armrests, which includes the reclining side lever
24.5" - with armrests folded down
25.0" - with armrests folded up

Remember you will also have to purchase two pedistals, two sets of seat belts, and mounting hardware.  But maybe you could reuse your couch seat belts.

The seats sold today have a minor difference in style for the armrests.  No longer as shown having a single horizontal seam, but rather two curved stitchings as my new seat have.
1615  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 15, 2011, 11:27:08 am
Judy,

That is why the 2552 was designed.  It specifically provides the space for a 3rd seat.  The only thing I can think of is to get the 2552.
1616  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replaced Our Barrel Chair With A 3rd Captain Seat on: January 15, 2011, 11:15:23 am
NLK,

Assuming you plan to get a matching seat to your front ones, and given seats are differently styled between model years, and then the variation of cloth versus leather....

Simply measure your own front seats.  Just add whatever is needed for the extra armrest.  If it's too difficult, try measuring from the center point to the outside edge of the armrest, x2.

Ron
1617  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 Mods/Improvements /Captions on: January 14, 2011, 10:00:14 am
Thanks Bob for sharing those ideas.

I too like the railings on the wings, but I would prefer solid railings so tiny things can be dumped up there, like when I empty out my pockets of keys, coins and my wedding band at the end of the day.  But your spindled railing will surely hold a box of tissues which is a great place for that.

Where did you find the mini fold-up towel racks for the shower area?  Those look interesting.  Are they mounted with two-sided tape?

I bought those fold-up cup holders but mine are brown to match our cherry finish woodwork.  They were intended for the bedroom area on the wood wall when watching TV in bed.  But I never did mount them.  I like your white fold-up cup holder on the wingwall for the 3rd passenger.  If I find one, I'll have to do that.

The paper towel rack over the kitchen sink......That has always been a lacking neccesity.  I'll have to measure-up and see what it takes to mount the light forward and towel rack against the window valance.

Thanks Again!
Ron
1618  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: January 13, 2011, 05:13:24 pm
Tom,

As you can imagine, you are going to love that new seat.  Being able to kick back like that after a long day outdoors, is going to feel so good.

I put my barrel chair up for sale on Craigslist, hoping to recoupe some cost.
1619  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: sorry to be such a pain in the a__ on: January 11, 2011, 08:13:54 pm
Being that we own a 2007 model, some of Billy's questions are not appicable here.

Thermal Pane Windows.....We have them and love them.
1) Quiet inside when it's noisey outside, which is especially beneficial the way we travel.  We stay in Walmart's and rest areas where there is never a dull moment.  So the noise suppresion is much appreciated.  Even quiet when on the open road with less over-all noise, especially from passing trucks.
2) When camping in summer at high altitude, places like Canada, or off season, it's much warmer inside than experienced with our old motor home which had single pane.  Little or no radiated cold falling on our heads.
3) A/C is retained better too.  We do notice that.

The factory can swap out windows.  They have done it for others.

If I had troubles with failed seals like rmmpe, I too would advise against them, but so far, all is well.  We do store our PC2350 in a heated garage in winter so maybe that is a contributer to holding a good seal.



The front shades do require a bit of a knack to work smoothly.  I can understand a negative review about them.  But after a while, you know what it takes for them to cooperate, and all works out well.

About the sink light.  We have one and like it a lot.  I am surprised they stop putting in sink lights.  You can request one be installed for you, maybe even on an existing unit.

About the stove mirror....I thought it was a good idea for an easy clean splash guard & heat shield.  It also brightens up what is typically a dark corner.  I was going to buy one from the factory, but my wife said not to.

About the furnace in our 2350, I agree with everyone else.  More heat goes to the rear than to the front.   It is great when sleeping in back with the privacy curtian so the furnace doesn't run so often, but the RV does experience uneven heating.
1620  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: January 11, 2011, 03:39:26 pm
I especially like the "ottoman" foot rest!
Yes, in small motor homes some things must serve multiple purposes.  That dinette bench is much more comfortable as an ottoman with the new seat, than it does serving it's main purpose.
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