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1636  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Night/Day Shades Rattling on: September 24, 2013, 12:55:25 pm
Nice Story.  Our rig is over six years old and we still appreciate all those features you mentioned.

I wonder if our older style day/night shades rattle against the window frames.  I have other noises going on that drown out any such noise.  Nice tip if I quiet down the rest of our rig.

Welcome to the PC family!  Your 2100 with no slide-out and full body paint gets a double thumbs up from me.  ThumbsUp  ThumbsUp
If you find your rig likes to "wander" on the road, there are affordable suspension upgrades that will take care of it for you, so well that it will handle like a steady SUV.
1637  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Mercedes or E350 for ride and handling on: September 23, 2013, 04:15:29 pm
I can't knock the Sprinter.  Though I personally wouldn't go for one, I understand the attraction.

I find it interesting in what's upcoming from Ford called Transit.  It supposedly will be much more fuel efficient than the E350, comparable to the Sprinter but of coarse with Ford pricing.  I also wonder if PC-USA will be offering it.

Here is a 2014 Ford Transit Cut-Away.
More Pictures/Data HERE apparently for a box truck application.

1638  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 23, 2013, 03:59:59 pm
Tom, I like your idea.
1639  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What is in the box between the propane tank and the frame? on: September 23, 2013, 03:59:20 pm
I agree that you need to use some common sense as to how long to hold the button in after the light turns on.  I hold it priming for 2-3 seconds after the light comes on, then go for start.

There is no hard fast rule for everyone because Onans seem to behave differently from one unit to another.  I suppose it comes down to finding what works best for your PC.

Also, it could possibly be the altitude adjustment on the carb isn't matching your actual altitude.  I wonder how many of us PC owners adjust that thingy?
1640  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What is in the box between the propane tank and the frame? on: September 23, 2013, 02:17:24 pm
About the Onan 4000 generator....

With our 2007 model, it primes after the light turns on, not beforehand.  We were doing the WRONG thing holding down the primer until the light came on.

When the light turns on, it is then that it first starts to prime.  If you listen very closely, you can hear the pump turn on when the light turns on.

So hold that primer switch long after the light goes on.  It still takes a few starting attempts, but with much less cranking.

Bob, if I never primed prior, my generator would require excessive cranking to start.  So I don't know what more to say.
1641  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: SCAN GAUGE II on: September 22, 2013, 10:43:15 am
I did not come up with a cheat sheet, and don't plan on doing so.  Like skipper, I simply display information pertinent to fuel consumption.  I played with the SG2 and settled into displaying these four data types.

- average mpg (averaged from the time you turn on the engine to the time you turn it off)
- real time mpg (instant miles per gallon, recalculated every few seconds)
- miles per hour
- throttle position sensor (position of the gas pedal, 12=foot off pedal, 76=pedal-to-the-metal)  It's good to know how far down I am pressing the gas pedal.

As you know I mounted mine on top of my rear camera monitor using velcro.  I fished a computer cable from that area to the OBD-2 connector.  My SG2 cable is used only to make the final connection.  I have it coiled up and wire tied pretty behind the kick panel.  If I want to use the SG2 on another vehicle, I simple pop off the kick panel, unplug, and the rest is understood.

I tried using my SG2 for trip averaging, but I couldn't get it to consistently remember where it left off.  Adding my purchased fuel after each fill-up wasn't friendly enough for me either.  It was too much fussing.  I always keep track of fuel and miles with pen & paper, initially using it for comparison but ended up being my only.
1642  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 22, 2013, 10:22:14 am
I understand.
1643  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 22, 2013, 12:08:55 am
The front up under the engine NOISE.

They jacked up her rear end and ran her until she made the noise then threw her into neutral and turned her off and the noise continued for several seconds.
Jordon Ford really did some great research.  In Neutral with engine off, the noise continued until the drive train got below that 50 mph mark.  That rules out everything forward of the transmission.  But the noise came from under the engine.  That implies the noise is originating in the transmission and resonating through the engine.

I would rule out anything related to the engine, also because the noise is not heard in lower gears at high rpm.

It sounds like a transmission matter.  I wonder if you had a full transmission flush done by a Ford dealer, if it would flush out the trouble.  Maybe there is something inside that could be maniputated (made quiet) when flushing the transmission.  Just throwing out possibilities here.

We once had a car with a power steering pump that went bad by vibrating loud.  We replaced the pump and all was fine thereafter.  But if your power steering pump was bad, you would get the noise at high RPMs in lower gears as well.  Therefore I rule that out as a possibility.
1644  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Vvvvvvvvvvibration Noise on: September 20, 2013, 01:22:48 pm
If that were my coach, I'd try playing doctor myself.

Remove the engine cover and have someone else drive the vehicle.  Get that noise to occur and listen around.  If there is simply too much residual noise, use a mechanic's stethiscope and listen around.  They are sold cheap at auto part stores like Napa, Auto Zone, O'Reilly's etc.  They work by placing the end on metal and listen for the noise through it.  Place the end on various mechanical things that you can reach.  I think you may be able to lengthen the hose using an extention tube to reach more places.

Also use a vacuum cleaner hose, one end to your ear, the other end to various places around where you can safely reach while the vehicle is in motion.  My vacuum cleaner hose has bailed me out a few times with a good diagnosis.  But I never tried what I am suggesting you try.

Safety First
Good Luck
1645  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Mercedes or E350 for ride and handling on: September 20, 2013, 01:09:44 pm
I have never owned nor even test driven the Sprinter, so keep that in-mind when reading my reply.

We own a PC2350 built on a 2007 E350 Ford chassis.  2007 was the last year of the lesser E350, so it handles 1000 pounds less weight and assumed a less bumpy ride because of it.  Mind you that our ride is still bumpy especially considering that our rig is lighter because it does not have a 400 pound slideout.  As mentioned by ragoodsp, the closer you load your rig to the limit of the chassis, the smoother your ride will be.

If considering an E350, plan on spending a few thousand more on more capable stabilizer bars and such.  But I suppose a Sprinter would also benefit from the same upgrades.

Regarding fuel economy, that is quite subjective pending what you carry aboard, what you tow if anything, driving habits, whether you use cruise control, the types of roads travelled, generator usage, and how fuel economy is being calculated.  My trip average is closely documented (each fuel purchase) for most accurate data.

All trips were heading out west
Trip towing 2100 pound car over 5000 miles - 9.5 mpg
Trip towing 3600 pound car over 4000 miles - 9.2 mpg
Trip towing nothing over 5500 miles - 10.6 mpg

A couple tank fulls got over 13 mpg, I recall one rough slow 15mph switch back mountain tank full got 8 mpg, but my averages were from home near Chicago, back to home.

There are other considerations, E350 versus Sprinter, some previously mentioned.

This I copied from my standard reply on this subject matter on another forum.

Advantages Of The Sprinter With Diesel Engine
- Offers a 35% improvement in fuel economy over the Ford-V10, when both are loaded and driven identically.
- More ergonomic driver compartment with more leg room.
- Comfort continues with a car-like feel & quiet ride.
- A grander view out the windshield
- Made by Mercedes which people are attracted to.

Advantages Of The Ford E350 with V10 Engine
- Given identical motor homes both brand and model, the Ford is around $13,000 MSRP cheaper
- The Ford V10 engine has 50% more horse power and torque
- The Ford E350 chassis handles 1430 pounds more weight.
- The E350 is able to tow a heavier load.
- The E350 rear axle is significantly wider which translates to better stability.
- In most places traveled, gasoline costs less than diesel fuel
- The Sprinter diesel has limited mechanical service shops around North America
- The Sprinter diesel is typically outfitted with a propane generator. Propane is a critical fuel for RV operations, and generally needs to be rationed when dry camping.
- This Next Point Is Debatable But Still Worth Noting....The V6 Sprinter diesel engine is not allowed to idle for extended periods. This limitation is detrimental when you need a/c but there are generator restrictions or you are dangerously low on propane, or you have a mechanical failure with the generator or roof a/c. The Ford V10 can safely idle for hours on end, heating, cooling, and battery charging, all valuable if you have a baby, pets, or health/respiratory issues.

1646  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Scenic Pictures With Our 2007 2350 on: September 19, 2013, 12:28:19 am
I added a pic from our August 2013 trip.
1647  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Protective Bug Screen for front of PC on: September 17, 2013, 07:02:18 pm
Last August we drove 5500 miles round trip from Chicago to Seattle and back without any special consideration to bug protection.  I was tempted to clean the rig at a wand-wash place but never did  At one point there was a blanket of bugs on the leading edges, so bad that when stopped, the live bugs fed off the dead ones.  A good rain while driving helped immensely.

Once back home, it took numerous hours of cleaning to get the bugs off, some splats seemingly semi-permanent in the Diamond Shield film.  I suppose a good paint polish would make the reflection right.

I spent some serious time under the hood cleaning dead bugs which turned out great.

As far as a fine screen bug shield goes, I would be concerned of the air restriction to the radiator when clean, worse with a serious accumulation.
1648  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Overnight Parking - Nontradional Campgrounds on: September 15, 2013, 01:08:29 pm
Our trip last month was for 30 nights.  Here was the break down with overnight accomodations.

- 9 nights $20/night in Glacier NP
- 2 nights $12/night in North Cascades NP
- 1 night with electric, $27 in a state park near Mount Baker
- 1 night with electric, $35 in a state park near Seattle
- 17 nights FREE in national forests, rest areas, & Walmarts
1649  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inductive stovetop anyone? on: September 14, 2013, 11:06:53 pm
The PC Forum people will be on the lookout for you now. We just might "happen" to camp nearby and chat with your lady. Wine might be involved.
rolling on the floor
1650  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Inductive stovetop anyone? on: September 14, 2013, 08:34:04 am
Excellent - tell her we need some good Ron Ditmer stories. Even a Phoenix guru like you HAS to have some great bloopers.
Now you know the real reason.  I won't let her.  Smile
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